LETSLA Short Shifter Linkage - Page 4 - LotusTalk

HKFEVER · 01-30-2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by HKFEVER

PM sent.

Thank you for your swift reply.

Wish all Lotus dealer could respond like you.

HKFEVER · 02-01-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TroyLotus

I looked and found a place that is about an hour from me that does it. I will call them tomorrow when they are open to see how much it will cost and let you all know. What colors? Gold? Blue? Red?

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Could you look in to what the additional cost would be to anodize them as an option. My car sits outside and is bathed in rain all the time. I would like the added protection. Preferably in gold as they can also be seen on my car.

Hi, any update for the anodize? I want to try the parts now.

By the way, my car has the factory engine mount and it move quite a bit as far as I understand. Will the moment of the engine affect your mod? Did you test the shifter in a factory mount or after market harder mount?

TroyLotus · 02-02-2009, 02:08 PM

I called on the anodizing again today and I am working on getting a decent price for the lot, but they are being a pain so far in that they will not quote until they get to see the full lot in hand. I am now trying to find another place that is easier.

HKFEVER · 02-02-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyLotus

I called on the anodizing again today and I am working on getting a decent price for the lot, but they are being a pain so far in that they will not quote until they get to see the full lot in hand. I am now trying to find another place that is easier.

Please keep me posted, and I am sure HK Lotus drives love to see the MOD.

IamBatman · 02-02-2009, 05:13 PM

why do you want it anodized? you cant see it and it adds extra cost. Aluminum doesn't corrode like steel, it doesn't matter if its bathed in rain or not.

Troy, if you are going to anodize, make sure they mask off the bearing assembly surfaces as it adds some small thickness to the material and may (or may not) throw you off your press-fit tolerance. (don't anodize with the bearing already pressed in for obvious reasons)

HKFEVER · 02-02-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by IamBatman

why do you want it anodized? you cant see it and it adds extra cost. Aluminum doesn't corrode like steel, it doesn't matter if its bathed in rain or not.

Troy, if you are going to anodize, make sure they mask off the bearing assembly surfaces as it adds some small thickness to the material and may (or may not) throw you off your press-fit tolerance. (don't anodize with the bearing already pressed in for obvious reasons)

You have the point. I though the O2 will weaken the Aluminum.

Just wonder how does aero industrial harden the Aluminum ?

IamBatman · 02-02-2009, 06:38 PM

natural contact with the o2 in the air will form a layer of Aluminum oxide on bare aluminum. Aluminum oxide is a very hard and corrosion resistant material and will protect the AL from corrosion. Anodizing just enhances this process.

Typical anodizing and hard anodizing for industrial components are mainly for aesthetics, abrasion, and resistance to harsh chemicals. Not really applicable for this component.

Noizemaker · 02-02-2009, 06:50 PM

Troy, both links on your website seem to charge int'l shipping. How do I get the domestic rate?

TroyLotus · 02-02-2009, 07:09 PM

On anodizing I was going to do it for looks and not function if that is what everyone wanted, but personally you will not really see it when installed and it will just blend in with the transmission soon enough. Also, anodizing does fade over time and does not look as good as new. If I did all of the parts it would cost about $5-8 per unit and an extra week or two it would take them to do in production. If someone really wants it please PM me and I can see what I can do on a one off basis for extra cost.

Should be fixed now. I just updated it. I had to charge $15 shipping for both, but if you place an international order you will see the LETSLA costing $25 more to make up for the shipping charge so the overall price is the same. This was just easier then requesting money each time as there seems to be a lot of requests overseas now.

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Troy, both links on your website seem to charge int'l shipping. How do I get the domestic rate?

goelise · 02-02-2009, 07:58 PM

I'll take my previous

and add a few more.

Definitely interested, would love to hear feedback from people after they track with it.

goelise · 02-03-2009, 07:22 PM

so this kit includes the parts I need to perform the shifter mod as well?

from the installation instructions:
"Also included in the kit is a 30mm spacer, 50mm 8x1.25 bolt, flat washer and locking washer. This is used to stabilize the side to side motion."

Phil S · 02-04-2009, 09:36 AM

Got mine today

Will be installed soon.

EliseAtLeast · 02-04-2009, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil S

Got mine today

Will be installed soon.

We expect full report and installation pics too

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perryeyges · 02-04-2009, 10:19 AM

Troy,
How do you see this mod working in conjunction with my second generation Sector111 Ikeya shifter? After changing out to Sector111's new motor mount kit shifting(inline) is a bit more precise but still leaves a lot to be desired.
Your linkage looks sweet!

Once installed does it require any adjustment?

xtn · 02-04-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyLotus

5-To change the throw you would just adjust where the rod end bearing attaches to the crossgate for 2nd-3rd, 4th-5th . You would change the location of the rod end bearing on the shift bellcrank lever to change the throw for 1st-2nd, 3rd-4th, 5th-6th. So you move the rod end bearing closer to the pivot point to increase the mechanical advantage and shorter then throw.

To be clear, moving the rod end bearing closer to the pivot point will DECREASE the mechanical advantage (of the shift lever over the transmission) and shorten the throw.

Think I want one of these kits.

xtn

TroyLotus · 02-04-2009, 03:23 PM

I do not see this as a problem at all as it is a seperate unit and will help fine.
I will also be redoing the instructions this weekend myself as I found some easier ways to do it and I was trying to be super anal which made it overcomplicated.

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How do you see this mod working in conjunction with my second generation Sector111 Ikeya shifter? After changing out to Sector111's new motor mount kit shifting(inline) is a bit more precise but still leaves a lot to be desired.
Your linkage looks sweet!
Once installed does it require any adjustment?

Smoky · 02-04-2009, 03:34 PM

Not to pile it on, but curious as to the ETA on the cable upgrade? When I go in there I want to do everything in one shot.

TroyLotus · 02-04-2009, 04:14 PM

I am working on this and working out details about design and requirements. I should have a sample in about two weeks. Then I can test the sample out and make sure it is up to specs. Then I will order if I can get the price where it needs to be and they said it would take 4 weeks to manufacture. So we are realistically looking at about 2 months. This is mainly due to only wanting to go with a specific manufacture for the cable itself as that is the only company I found that would be able to do the tight tolerances and inner cable requirements to have almost no loss of motion and very low friction. All the rest I found did not address the issues to my liking. I know that it seems like a long time, but for something as specific as the cable and how complicated it actually is it takes time.

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Not to pile it on, but curious as to the ETA on the cable upgrade? When I go in there I want to do everything in one shot.

EliseAtLeast · 02-04-2009, 04:36 PM

Is the cable just for reduced friction? Are there any other benefits? What is involved with its installation? Thanks.

TroyLotus · 02-05-2009, 04:30 PM

The cable would be in addition to the LETSLA. It will have much less friction when under pressure and will have much less, almost none, loss of motion. So what this means is the connection from the shifter to the LETSLA will be a much more solid feel. I did speak to the manufacture in depth today. They are making me up a sample and sending it to me next week so I can test it out and see how good it is in a real world situation. I will post results when I have them.

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Is the cable just for reduced friction? Are there any other benefits? What is involved with its installation? Thanks.

02-02-2009, 02:08 PM	#63 (permalink)
TroyLotus Elise Driver Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 165	I called on the anodizing again today and I am working on getting a decent price for the lot, but they are being a pain so far in that they will not quote until they get to see the full lot in hand. I am now trying to find another place that is easier. __________________ Trueleo LETSLA 2005 Elise-LR,SP,HT,T, Trueleo LETSLA, Exige side scoops and grills, Stage II exhaust, FF splitter, Air2Gel seat foam, Stripes, Eliminator, Future- TVS SC kit, Fidanza flywheel, ACT HD, Custom SC headers and exhaust, SS valves, Ti Retainers,

02-02-2009, 05:13 PM	#65 (permalink)
IamBatman Exige? SEXIGE! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,607 Images: 1	why do you want it anodized? you cant see it and it adds extra cost. Aluminum doesn't corrode like steel, it doesn't matter if its bathed in rain or not. Troy, if you are going to anodize, make sure they mask off the bearing assembly surfaces as it adds some small thickness to the material and may (or may not) throw you off your press-fit tolerance. (don't anodize with the bearing already pressed in for obvious reasons) __________________ Phantom Black 2007 Exige S221.56436. All options. Black 01' Mustang Cobra 'Vert ("some" modifications) daily driver Facebook group: Add lightness...and Darkness!

02-02-2009, 06:38 PM	#67 (permalink)
IamBatman Exige? SEXIGE! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,607 Images: 1	natural contact with the o2 in the air will form a layer of Aluminum oxide on bare aluminum. Aluminum oxide is a very hard and corrosion resistant material and will protect the AL from corrosion. Anodizing just enhances this process. Typical anodizing and hard anodizing for industrial components are mainly for aesthetics, abrasion, and resistance to harsh chemicals. Not really applicable for this component. __________________ Phantom Black 2007 Exige S221.56436. All options. Black 01' Mustang Cobra 'Vert ("some" modifications) daily driver Facebook group: Add lightness...and Darkness!

02-02-2009, 06:50 PM	#68 (permalink)
Noizemaker General Freakin' Lee. :( Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bellevue WA Posts: 325	Troy, both links on your website seem to charge int'l shipping. How do I get the domestic rate? __________________ -Matt 05 Chrome Orange. Touring, LSS wheels, The Blue Sector111 radiator of doom, Dieselgeek 1/4 turn kit, 1/4din Oil Temp gauge, Starshield, LETSLA, HKS exhaust etc etc etc. 99 Neon ACR. Broken. 2.4l, T3/T4, T850 swap, SRT seats, etc etc etc.

02-02-2009, 07:09 PM	#69 (permalink)
TroyLotus Elise Driver Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 165	On anodizing I was going to do it for looks and not function if that is what everyone wanted, but personally you will not really see it when installed and it will just blend in with the transmission soon enough. Also, anodizing does fade over time and does not look as good as new. If I did all of the parts it would cost about $5-8 per unit and an extra week or two it would take them to do in production. If someone really wants it please PM me and I can see what I can do on a one off basis for extra cost. Should be fixed now. I just updated it. I had to charge $15 shipping for both, but if you place an international order you will see the LETSLA costing $25 more to make up for the shipping charge so the overall price is the same. This was just easier then requesting money each time as there seems to be a lot of requests overseas now. HTML Code: Troy, both links on your website seem to charge int'l shipping. How do I get the domestic rate? __________________ Trueleo LETSLA 2005 Elise-LR,SP,HT,T, Trueleo LETSLA, Exige side scoops and grills, Stage II exhaust, FF splitter, Air2Gel seat foam, Stripes, Eliminator, Future- TVS SC kit, Fidanza flywheel, ACT HD, Custom SC headers and exhaust, SS valves, Ti Retainers,

02-02-2009, 07:58 PM	#70 (permalink)
goelise AR #1275 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 2,523 Images: 1	I'll take my previous and add a few more. Definitely interested, would love to hear feedback from people after they track with it. __________________ '06 Ardent Red Elise - black interior with LSS, Touring, HT, Starshield, Lotus Sport Clutch, Moroso Oil Pan, 2ZZ(#2), Ekological HIDs, Lotus Driving Lights, Stebel Horn, Bootie, Razo '06 Pedal mod,Snorkel Delete,Odyssey 680 with s111 bracket. Future Mods:LETSLA (ordered), Rear toe link brace Thank you FVMC! WOO-HOO!

02-03-2009, 07:22 PM	#71 (permalink)
goelise AR #1275 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 2,523 Images: 1	so this kit includes the parts I need to perform the shifter mod as well? from the installation instructions: "Also included in the kit is a 30mm spacer, 50mm 8x1.25 bolt, flat washer and locking washer. This is used to stabilize the side to side motion." __________________ '06 Ardent Red Elise - black interior with LSS, Touring, HT, Starshield, Lotus Sport Clutch, Moroso Oil Pan, 2ZZ(#2), Ekological HIDs, Lotus Driving Lights, Stebel Horn, Bootie, Razo '06 Pedal mod,Snorkel Delete,Odyssey 680 with s111 bracket. Future Mods:LETSLA (ordered), Rear toe link brace Thank you FVMC! WOO-HOO!

02-04-2009, 09:36 AM	#72 (permalink)
Phil S 2007 Phantom Black Elise Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 211	Got mine today Will be installed soon. __________________ BWR SC, LETSLA, BWR sway bar, Nitron Sport Pro, RTD, LSS R6, LSS 048, HT, HID, 5 pt Schroth, 111 V brace, Boomerang, Stage II, Manly mounts

02-04-2009, 10:19 AM	#74 (permalink)
perryeyges XPRMTL Join Date: May 2004 Location: Berzerkley Posts: 3,117	Troy, How do you see this mod working in conjunction with my second generation Sector111 Ikeya shifter? After changing out to Sector111's new motor mount kit shifting(inline) is a bit more precise but still leaves a lot to be desired. Your linkage looks sweet! Once installed does it require any adjustment? Last edited by perryeyges : 02-04-2009 at 10:26 AM.

02-04-2009, 03:34 PM	#77 (permalink)
Smoky Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 457	Not to pile it on, but curious as to the ETA on the cable upgrade? When I go in there I want to do everything in one shot. __________________ -Smoky '07 Exige S, Chrome Orange, Track/Touring, LSD, Starshield, 2Bular 8x24, ACT XTSS Clutch, Fidanza Flywheel, S111 RTD brace, S111 Ultra Discs, rls Intercooler, Goodrich S/S brake lines, Innovative engine mounts, Valentine 1

02-04-2009, 04:14 PM	#78 (permalink)
TroyLotus Elise Driver Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 165	I am working on this and working out details about design and requirements. I should have a sample in about two weeks. Then I can test the sample out and make sure it is up to specs. Then I will order if I can get the price where it needs to be and they said it would take 4 weeks to manufacture. So we are realistically looking at about 2 months. This is mainly due to only wanting to go with a specific manufacture for the cable itself as that is the only company I found that would be able to do the tight tolerances and inner cable requirements to have almost no loss of motion and very low friction. All the rest I found did not address the issues to my liking. I know that it seems like a long time, but for something as specific as the cable and how complicated it actually is it takes time. HTML Code: Not to pile it on, but curious as to the ETA on the cable upgrade? When I go in there I want to do everything in one shot. __________________ Trueleo LETSLA 2005 Elise-LR,SP,HT,T, Trueleo LETSLA, Exige side scoops and grills, Stage II exhaust, FF splitter, Air2Gel seat foam, Stripes, Eliminator, Future- TVS SC kit, Fidanza flywheel, ACT HD, Custom SC headers and exhaust, SS valves, Ti Retainers,

02-04-2009, 04:36 PM	#79 (permalink)
EliseAtLeast Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Basking Ridge, NJ Posts: 1,216	Is the cable just for reduced friction? Are there any other benefits? What is involved with its installation? Thanks. __________________ '08 Honda S2000 CR (Rio Yellow Pearl) '07 Lotus Exige S (Aspen White) Touring, Traction, Starshield '04 BMW 330 ci (White)

02-05-2009, 04:30 PM	#80 (permalink)
TroyLotus Elise Driver Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 165	The cable would be in addition to the LETSLA. It will have much less friction when under pressure and will have much less, almost none, loss of motion. So what this means is the connection from the shifter to the LETSLA will be a much more solid feel. I did speak to the manufacture in depth today. They are making me up a sample and sending it to me next week so I can test it out and see how good it is in a real world situation. I will post results when I have them. HTML Code: Is the cable just for reduced friction? Are there any other benefits? What is involved with its installation? Thanks. __________________ Trueleo LETSLA 2005 Elise-LR,SP,HT,T, Trueleo LETSLA, Exige side scoops and grills, Stage II exhaust, FF splitter, Air2Gel seat foam, Stripes, Eliminator, Future- TVS SC kit, Fidanza flywheel, ACT HD, Custom SC headers and exhaust, SS valves, Ti Retainers,

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