Moroso oil pan & helicoil repair :( - LotusTalk

robains · 10-19-2009, 09:01 AM

Guess I've been working out at my gym too much lately, but I successfully stripped the threads on my Moroso oil pan drain plug during an oil change. I'm going to apply a helicoil repair on it, but wasn't sure what size kit to get.

If anyone else has made the same mistake as I

, and repaired it with a helicoil kit, could you let me know what size kit you used?

Thanks, Rob.

twaszak1 · 10-19-2009, 09:13 AM

I have been found guilty of the same thing at one time. I used what is caled a "Time-Sert". They are much better for oil pan repairs, but a bit more pricey. 1/2x20 is the size.

T.J.

twaszak1 · 10-19-2009, 09:18 AM

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web link. I dont know if you can buy them here, but explains the advantages well.

robains · 10-19-2009, 09:27 AM

Excellent, thank you sir, I'll try to find a local source.

What length 1.0 "?

Rob.

twaszak1 · 10-19-2009, 09:41 AM

on the link under drain plug, it has the first option as 1/2x20 for alluminum oil pans. that is the one. I measured the one I have and it was around 5/8" long.

Walnuts · 10-19-2009, 10:57 AM

Might I recommend a ball valve drain plug to replace the bolt-like one that's in there? In this case, you'd not have to worry about pulling the drain plug again. Quick Oil Drain Valve You'd get the one for the Celica and it works like a charm. Its a spring loaded lock mechanism and is even more secure thanks to the undertry making it virtually impossible for anything to hit it.

twaszak1 · 10-19-2009, 11:13 AM

the drain plug on the moroso is a different size than the one for the stock pan, but if those valves give tread and pitch, he has that info.

Casey · 10-19-2009, 11:31 AM

I would suggest a better fix than a helicoil. Take the pan to a welder and have a male -8an bung welded to the drain plug boss and then just use a -8an cap for the plug.

Simba · 10-19-2009, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey@ForcedFed

I would suggest a better fix than a helicoil. Take the pan to a welder and have a male -8an bung welded to the drain plug boss and then just use a -8an cap for the plug.

Yup. Weld a bung. Helicoil will not seal properly.

ZJChaser · 10-19-2009, 12:25 PM

weld in a bung then install a fumoto valve....then dont worry about it again. QuickOilDrainValve.com - the best way to change oil

edit: just noticed walnut suggested the same. I also use the one with a nipple so that I just reach in there and slip a hose on then open the valve and can drain the oil without removing the undertrays.

apk919 · 10-19-2009, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZJChaser

weld in a bung then install a fumoto valve....then dont worry about it again. QuickOilDrainValve.com - the best way to change oil

edit: just noticed walnut suggested the same. I also use the one with a nipple so that I just reach in there and slip a hose on then open the valve and can drain the oil without removing the undertrays.

Is there a version of the fumoto valve that fits the Moroso pan as is?

ZJChaser · 10-19-2009, 01:02 PM

maybe. dont know what it is though.

tomrev · 10-19-2009, 01:42 PM

Looking at thier site, it should be part#: F-101. That's the valve for a 1/2 in 20 thread size. Tom

apk919 · 10-19-2009, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomrev

Looking at thier site, it should be part#: F-101. That's the valve for a 1/2 in 20 thread size. Tom

Thanks! Is it confirmed that the Moroso plug is 1/2x20? Anyone?

Zinhead · 10-19-2009, 02:34 PM

I dropped an email to thier customer service this afternoon to find out what the bolt was. Lets see if they reply.

Frank Amoroso · 10-19-2009, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZJChaser

weld in a bung then install a fumoto valve....then dont worry about it again. QuickOilDrainValve.com - the best way to change oil

edit: just noticed walnut suggested the same. I also use the one with a nipple so that I just reach in there and slip a hose on then open the valve and can drain the oil without removing the undertrays.

Hey Shinoo,

You guys should consider this for the oil pan you're developing!

robains · 10-19-2009, 08:27 PM

Taking Casey's suggestion of welding a AN bung and cap -- have a friend that can do this for me, just need to pull the pan -- ugh -- not really a difficult job, just messy and a pain to scrap all the existing sealant off both surfaces.

Since I'm there, I'm looking for an new O ring for the oil line/filter sandwich plate -- anyone know where I can get one quick? As in by Thursday (10/22) since I'm heading out to Infineon on Sat/Sun to run with NASA TT group.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions folks.

Rob

10-19-2009, 09:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
robains 2007 Exige S Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CA, Bay Area Posts: 1,820	Moroso oil pan & helicoil repair :( Guess I've been working out at my gym too much lately, but I successfully stripped the threads on my Moroso oil pan drain plug during an oil change. I'm going to apply a helicoil repair on it, but wasn't sure what size kit to get. If anyone else has made the same mistake as I , and repaired it with a helicoil kit, could you let me know what size kit you used? Thanks, Rob. __________________ '07 Exige S (Track Pack & LSD) + EFi 550ci injectors + Mahle 9:1 + DRS Port + SuperTech Valves + Weapon R Header + 2.9" pully + TODA Clutch + FF Engine Damper + RLS IC + Greddy catch cans + opened roof slot + RTD brace + Milled steering arms + Larini 8" + FF air intake + Moroso oil pan + Ultradisc 2 piece front/rear + Reverie 1650mm wing + ReVerie front splitter + IQ3 Dash + 4pt ASM + Pioneer AVIC-N2 nav + rear camera + RAC monolites 888s 195/225 + Lotus LSS Hoosier R6 205/225 @ 1921 lbs

10-19-2009, 09:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
robains 2007 Exige S Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CA, Bay Area Posts: 1,820	Excellent, thank you sir, I'll try to find a local source. What length 1.0 "? Rob. __________________ '07 Exige S (Track Pack & LSD) + EFi 550ci injectors + Mahle 9:1 + DRS Port + SuperTech Valves + Weapon R Header + 2.9" pully + TODA Clutch + FF Engine Damper + RLS IC + Greddy catch cans + opened roof slot + RTD brace + Milled steering arms + Larini 8" + FF air intake + Moroso oil pan + Ultradisc 2 piece front/rear + Reverie 1650mm wing + ReVerie front splitter + IQ3 Dash + 4pt ASM + Pioneer AVIC-N2 nav + rear camera + RAC monolites 888s 195/225 + Lotus LSS Hoosier R6 205/225 @ 1921 lbs

10-19-2009, 10:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
Walnuts happy motoring! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: MD, USA Posts: 573	Might I recommend a ball valve drain plug to replace the bolt-like one that's in there? In this case, you'd not have to worry about pulling the drain plug again. Quick Oil Drain Valve You'd get the one for the Celica and it works like a charm. Its a spring loaded lock mechanism and is even more secure thanks to the undertry making it virtually impossible for anything to hit it. __________________ ~Rich 2006 Lotus Exige: GG

10-19-2009, 12:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
ZJChaser Blue Wheel Pimp Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 2,851	weld in a bung then install a fumoto valve....then dont worry about it again. QuickOilDrainValve.com - the best way to change oil edit: just noticed walnut suggested the same. I also use the one with a nipple so that I just reach in there and slip a hose on then open the valve and can drain the oil without removing the undertrays. __________________ AJ - Akua Solutions - #128 Lotus Exige - JRZ Suspension - Innovative Mounts - Toyo Tires - TW Research Development

10-19-2009, 01:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
ZJChaser Blue Wheel Pimp Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 2,851	maybe. dont know what it is though. __________________ AJ - Akua Solutions - #128 Lotus Exige - JRZ Suspension - Innovative Mounts - Toyo Tires - TW Research Development

10-19-2009, 09:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
twaszak1 Lotus Service Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 698	I have been found guilty of the same thing at one time. I used what is caled a "Time-Sert". They are much better for oil pan repairs, but a bit more pricey. 1/2x20 is the size. T.J.

10-19-2009, 09:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
twaszak1 Lotus Service Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 698	++ TIME-SERT Threaded inserts for stripped threads, threaded inserts, thread repair stripped sparkplug's, Ford sparkplug blowouts, threaded inserts threaded, repair stripped threads, stripped threads, inserts threaded inserts, Ford spark plug repair, web link. I dont know if you can buy them here, but explains the advantages well.

10-19-2009, 09:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
twaszak1 Lotus Service Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 698	on the link under drain plug, it has the first option as 1/2x20 for alluminum oil pans. that is the one. I measured the one I have and it was around 5/8" long.

10-19-2009, 11:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
twaszak1 Lotus Service Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 698	the drain plug on the moroso is a different size than the one for the stock pan, but if those valves give tread and pitch, he has that info.

10-19-2009, 11:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
Casey Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 555	I would suggest a better fix than a helicoil. Take the pan to a welder and have a male -8an bung welded to the drain plug boss and then just use a -8an cap for the plug.

10-19-2009, 01:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
tomrev Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Traverse City, Mi. Posts: 87 Images: 10	Looking at thier site, it should be part#: F-101. That's the valve for a 1/2 in 20 thread size. Tom

10-19-2009, 02:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
Zinhead Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 292	I dropped an email to thier customer service this afternoon to find out what the bolt was. Lets see if they reply.

10-19-2009, 08:27 PM	#17 (permalink)
robains 2007 Exige S Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CA, Bay Area Posts: 1,820	Taking Casey's suggestion of welding a AN bung and cap -- have a friend that can do this for me, just need to pull the pan -- ugh -- not really a difficult job, just messy and a pain to scrap all the existing sealant off both surfaces. Since I'm there, I'm looking for an new O ring for the oil line/filter sandwich plate -- anyone know where I can get one quick? As in by Thursday (10/22) since I'm heading out to Infineon on Sat/Sun to run with NASA TT group. Thanks for all the help and suggestions folks. Rob __________________ '07 Exige S (Track Pack & LSD) + EFi 550ci injectors + Mahle 9:1 + DRS Port + SuperTech Valves + Weapon R Header + 2.9" pully + TODA Clutch + FF Engine Damper + RLS IC + Greddy catch cans + opened roof slot + RTD brace + Milled steering arms + Larini 8" + FF air intake + Moroso oil pan + Ultradisc 2 piece front/rear + Reverie 1650mm wing + ReVerie front splitter + IQ3 Dash + 4pt ASM + Pioneer AVIC-N2 nav + rear camera + RAC monolites 888s 195/225 + Lotus LSS Hoosier R6 205/225 @ 1921 lbs

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