'Official BWR SC Install Thread' - Page 13 - LotusTalk

Bavarian Motorist · 10-18-2008, 05:26 AM

Hey guys

I spent the better part of the day driving to and from Philadelphia area (where PES is located) and fortunately, I did not end up in someone's vegetable garden!

The car is fast. But not fast enough

Anxiously awaiting the stage 2 power kit!!!

I feel like I am gonna need a new clutch in a week or two!

K2S · 10-18-2008, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

Hey guys

I spent the better part of the day driving to and from Philadelphia area (where PES is located) and fortunately, I did not end up in someone's vegetable garden!

The car is fast. But not fast enough

Anxiously awaiting the stage 2 power kit!!!

I feel like I am gonna need a new clutch in a week or two!

Does PES do individual tuning? I'm planning on getting headers, cat, exhaust, and intake next, just needed a tuning solution.

snuggles1 · 10-18-2008, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

Hey guys

I spent the better part of the day driving to and from Philadelphia area (where PES is located) and fortunately, I did not end up in someone's vegetable garden!

The car is fast. But not fast enough

Anxiously awaiting the stage 2 power kit!!!

I feel like I am gonna need a new clutch in a week or two!

why isnt the car fast enuff? does the ecu need to bed-in a little to maximize its tune? was the car dyno'd? where wasnt it fast? off the line? rev range?

pls help us other Pending BWR S/C to be... thanks!

Bavarian Motorist · 10-18-2008, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K2S

Does PES do individual tuning? I'm planning on getting headers, cat, exhaust, and intake next, just needed a tuning solution.

Yep, they do. They asked me to tell people that. They did customized tune on my car, but unfortunately utilizing the stock parts, so I have these great exhaust systems and intakes just sitting around until I bother to get another tune

Quote:

Originally Posted by snuggles1

why isnt the car fast enuff? does the ecu need to bed-in a little to maximize its tune? was the car dyno'd? where wasnt it fast? off the line? rev range?

pls help us other Pending BWR S/C to be... thanks!

Sorry, I didn't mean there's anything wrong with the kit or that it's slow. It's fast!!! I just want MORE!!!!!

Because I'm a power whore now...

The only place I would say it's not fast is at low revs in high gears, which is to be expected. The car is basically making no power there anyways. But at low revs in lower gears it revs up quite well.

The lower cam change is something I really need to adjust to...

K2S · 10-18-2008, 09:42 AM

oh wow, good to know, it's a fairly short drive.
Do you know how much they charge?

Bavarian Motorist · 10-18-2008, 09:44 AM

I did not ask, but I will PM you Tony's cell phone #

chotto · 10-18-2008, 11:30 AM

On step 115, you jump to 138a. Why can't a find the 13mm throttle adapter casting? Is it on the drivers side somewhere?

Forget it, I found it, it's on the supercharger plenum.

skibum · 10-18-2008, 11:34 AM

Chotto - That step was moved to 138a, do not skip ahead to it. I have a feeling that they did not want to renumber 70 steps so they just noted that it would come later in the install.

ishur · 10-18-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantom

So, you don't hear the S/C at all?

I'll be disappointed if I don't get a little whine

I hear it (or maybe it's the "whirr") at low rpms. At higher, rpms, the engine note takes over. I like it.

Bavarian Motorist · 10-18-2008, 11:48 AM

The SC whine is difficult to make out, but it's there. Gotta listen for it. It's definitely more of a whirring.

fzust · 10-18-2008, 12:25 PM

Hi Folks,

I am going to be in Europe leaving this evening returning on Oct 29th. Lots of vendor/customer meetings etc. Thus if there is a delay in answering an e-mail, post or return a phone call, that is why. I will try to stay on top of posts and e-mail in the evening, but the schedule is 1 country per day, so it may not be possible. Cheers!

charliex · 10-18-2008, 12:31 PM

i find the whine was louder when my s was new, then got quieter, then louder again, at one point i barely could hear it, the airbox/filter has a lot to do with it i bet

chotto · 10-18-2008, 12:49 PM

Are there any little tricks to get the alternator to slide in to its new position besides the bushing?

K2S · 10-18-2008, 01:54 PM

I dremeled the spacer slightly and lubricated it, but it was still a very tight fit.
Not sure if others would approve of this, but for my specific install, it was impossible to put it in without doing so.

skibum · 10-18-2008, 02:15 PM

My car is alive and running. Only logged 8 miles so far but all is well. The rpm's are dancing around at idle from about 600 to 1300 rpms. The exhaust sounds deeper and I can already tell a nice increase in torque without even really getting on it.

thegoat · 10-18-2008, 03:34 PM

I am dying! I have been halfway through my install for a few weeks now. Just buried at work. Missed a track day I hoped to use the SC'd beast on for the first time. Still working! I hate you all!!!!!

chotto · 10-18-2008, 05:34 PM

How do you bolt down the middle nut that attaches the supercharger to the head? I can kind of get an open ended wrench in there, but forget about the torque wrench.

Whiskey · 10-19-2008, 12:38 AM

I bought an extra wrench that has a round and open end. Put the round end in a vise, and bent it really close to the round end. Put about an 80* bend in it. It works like an offset socket wrench.

To tighten the nut, put the round end over the nut with the open end up in the air. Use a crescent wrench sideways at the top to rotate the bent wrench. You will have to rely on feel to torque this one properly. A good way to torque a similar amount as the other nuts is to move your hand on the handle away from the head of the crescent wrench about as far as you did with the torque wrench. Apply a similar force with the similarly length lever.

Hope that helps.

K2S · 10-19-2008, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chotto

How do you bolt down the middle nut that attaches the supercharger to the head? I can kind of get an open ended wrench in there, but forget about the torque wrench.

I used an extention for my torque wrench. It looks like a regular open end wrench, but the other end attaches to the torque wrench. If you want to get the exact torque, make sure you calculate the length of the extention and adjust the torque wrench accordingly. I forgot the formula but i'm sure someone here knows it

jmiesse · 10-19-2008, 05:50 AM

There might be a need for an official BWR tool list thread. Might be helpful.

10-18-2008, 05:26 AM	#241 (permalink)
Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC/Westchester, NY Posts: 10,852	Hey guys I spent the better part of the day driving to and from Philadelphia area (where PES is located) and fortunately, I did not end up in someone's vegetable garden! The car is fast. But not fast enough Anxiously awaiting the stage 2 power kit!!! I feel like I am gonna need a new clutch in a week or two! __________________ Be an alpha male. Drive a Lotus.

10-18-2008, 09:44 AM	#246 (permalink)
Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC/Westchester, NY Posts: 10,852	I did not ask, but I will PM you Tony's cell phone # __________________ Be an alpha male. Drive a Lotus.

10-18-2008, 11:30 AM	#247 (permalink)
chotto vv My Awesome Wife vv Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 917	On step 115, you jump to 138a. Why can't a find the 13mm throttle adapter casting? Is it on the drivers side somewhere? Forget it, I found it, it's on the supercharger plenum. __________________ 2005 SY-BWR Supercharger, Challenger Grill, AreaP single tip exhaust, Ohlin Double Adjustables, RTDbrace, Custom Kirkey 58 Series seats, Schroth 6 pt. harnesses, Multivex mirrors, Odyssey PC625 battery, Micromirror, HID's, V2arms, Sparco removeable steering wheel, 15"/16" Rota's with RA-1's, Pagid RS 4-2 pads, Cup airbox, Saikou Michi catch cans

10-18-2008, 11:34 AM	#248 (permalink)
skibum I approve this message Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 261	Chotto - That step was moved to 138a, do not skip ahead to it. I have a feeling that they did not want to renumber 70 steps so they just noted that it would come later in the install. __________________ 2006 Exige - Solar Yellow BWR S/C - Tillet B5 CF seats - Arqray SS single - PPE Header & sport cat - TR Motorsports F1 w/R888's - 1934# 2004 s2000 - 378 whp 295 trq 2005 Mini Cooper S 2008 Honda Fit - 35mpg y0! 1965 Austin Mini w/ vtec

10-18-2008, 11:48 AM	#250 (permalink)
Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC/Westchester, NY Posts: 10,852	The SC whine is difficult to make out, but it's there. Gotta listen for it. It's definitely more of a whirring. __________________ Be an alpha male. Drive a Lotus.

10-18-2008, 09:42 AM	#245 (permalink)
K2S Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Nassau/Queens Posts: 92	oh wow, good to know, it's a fairly short drive. Do you know how much they charge?

10-18-2008, 12:25 PM	#251 (permalink)
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10-18-2008, 12:31 PM	#252 (permalink)
charliex OSX Black hat Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 9,935	i find the whine was louder when my s was new, then got quieter, then louder again, at one point i barely could hear it, the airbox/filter has a lot to do with it i bet __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100.ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 West Coast Lotus Meet - Las Vegas - November 6-9 2009 http://www.westcoastlotus.com/

10-18-2008, 12:49 PM	#253 (permalink)
chotto vv My Awesome Wife vv Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 917	Are there any little tricks to get the alternator to slide in to its new position besides the bushing? __________________ 2005 SY-BWR Supercharger, Challenger Grill, AreaP single tip exhaust, Ohlin Double Adjustables, RTDbrace, Custom Kirkey 58 Series seats, Schroth 6 pt. harnesses, Multivex mirrors, Odyssey PC625 battery, Micromirror, HID's, V2arms, Sparco removeable steering wheel, 15"/16" Rota's with RA-1's, Pagid RS 4-2 pads, Cup airbox, Saikou Michi catch cans

10-18-2008, 01:54 PM	#254 (permalink)
K2S Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Nassau/Queens Posts: 92	I dremeled the spacer slightly and lubricated it, but it was still a very tight fit. Not sure if others would approve of this, but for my specific install, it was impossible to put it in without doing so.

10-18-2008, 02:15 PM	#255 (permalink)
skibum I approve this message Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 261	My car is alive and running. Only logged 8 miles so far but all is well. The rpm's are dancing around at idle from about 600 to 1300 rpms. The exhaust sounds deeper and I can already tell a nice increase in torque without even really getting on it. __________________ 2006 Exige - Solar Yellow BWR S/C - Tillet B5 CF seats - Arqray SS single - PPE Header & sport cat - TR Motorsports F1 w/R888's - 1934# 2004 s2000 - 378 whp 295 trq 2005 Mini Cooper S 2008 Honda Fit - 35mpg y0! 1965 Austin Mini w/ vtec

10-18-2008, 03:34 PM	#256 (permalink)
thegoat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 470	I am dying! I have been halfway through my install for a few weeks now. Just buried at work. Missed a track day I hoped to use the SC'd beast on for the first time. Still working! I hate you all!!!!! __________________ 2009 White w/ Carbon Birkin Super 7 (on order) 2001 Silver Honda Civic Ex (daily driver) ----------- 2006 Polar Blue Exige - Sold 2006 Chrome Orange Elise - Sold 2000 Porsche Boxster - Sold

10-18-2008, 05:34 PM	#257 (permalink)
chotto vv My Awesome Wife vv Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 917	How do you bolt down the middle nut that attaches the supercharger to the head? I can kind of get an open ended wrench in there, but forget about the torque wrench. __________________ 2005 SY-BWR Supercharger, Challenger Grill, AreaP single tip exhaust, Ohlin Double Adjustables, RTDbrace, Custom Kirkey 58 Series seats, Schroth 6 pt. harnesses, Multivex mirrors, Odyssey PC625 battery, Micromirror, HID's, V2arms, Sparco removeable steering wheel, 15"/16" Rota's with RA-1's, Pagid RS 4-2 pads, Cup airbox, Saikou Michi catch cans

10-19-2008, 12:38 AM	#258 (permalink)
Whiskey Love is More Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Athens, Ohio Posts: 200	How to tighten the center nut I bought an extra wrench that has a round and open end. Put the round end in a vise, and bent it really close to the round end. Put about an 80* bend in it. It works like an offset socket wrench. To tighten the nut, put the round end over the nut with the open end up in the air. Use a crescent wrench sideways at the top to rotate the bent wrench. You will have to rely on feel to torque this one properly. A good way to torque a similar amount as the other nuts is to move your hand on the handle away from the head of the crescent wrench about as far as you did with the torque wrench. Apply a similar force with the similarly length lever. Hope that helps. __________________ Will WTB: Elise Hardtop with Hardware - Storm Ti. (Color Code B121) Please send PM Elise: My process of adding exige side scoops (+ Front Mesh) \| 2005 Lotus Elise : Sport Pack : Biscuit Touring Pack : Storm Ti \| BWR Supercharger \| Exige Side ducts and front mesh \| LETSLA Short Shifter (ordered) \| Last edited by Whiskey : 10-19-2008 at 12:44 AM.

10-19-2008, 05:50 AM	#260 (permalink)
jmiesse Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 565	There might be a need for an official BWR tool list thread. Might be helpful. __________________ 05 AS Elise. Tour and Sport Pack. Hard Top.Stage II Exhaust, Sport ecu, Pagid RS 4-2s,Toyo R888's, Shifter Matrix brace, Micro Mirror

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