'Official BWR SC Install Thread' - Page 14 - LotusTalk

chotto · 10-19-2008, 09:19 AM

On step 163, you are suppose to reconnect the black hose to the air box flapper. Where does the other end go to?

Also, I can't find the orange hose that goes to the SC TB adapter. Where is the other end suppose to go?

How do I connect these back together?

luxige · 10-19-2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K2S

I used an extention for my torque wrench. It looks like a regular open end wrench, but the other end attaches to the torque wrench. If you want to get the exact torque, make sure you calculate the length of the extention and adjust the torque wrench accordingly. I forgot the formula but i'm sure someone here knows it

Here is the formula:
Could someone please explain my torque wrench to me?

chotto · 10-19-2008, 09:57 AM

As everyone is scrambling to answer my air box hose question, some people can answer this question.

These shims fell out when I lifted up the clam (four on each side). Where were they?

architect · 10-19-2008, 02:29 PM

All back together and works great! Only 20 miles on the install, so taking it easy, but no lights, leaks, or problems and GREAT power!

About 10 hours on the install in my garage (not including the fussing with the ECU for the re-reflash.) Fred - thanks for your help, quick response, and GREAT KIT!!!!!

K2S · 10-19-2008, 03:22 PM

HELP! One of my studs broke off! The ones that connect the S/C to the head. I might've over torqued it, but I was using a torque wrench

chotto · 10-19-2008, 03:22 PM

Does someone have a picture or schematic of how the engine cover hinge is seated with the clam? A close up picture of the hinges with the engine cover up would be great.

chotto · 10-19-2008, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chotto

On step 163, you are suppose to reconnect the black hose to the air box flapper. Where does the other end go to?

Also, I can't find the orange hose that goes to the SC TB adapter. Where is the other end suppose to go?

How do I connect these back together?

I have it all together now with the exception of my ECU and this air hose configuration. Can someone answer which goes where?

thegoat · 10-19-2008, 05:27 PM

I am not as far along as you, but when I removed the manifold, that orange tube was still attached to it. maybe this helps.

brokenboy · 10-19-2008, 05:28 PM

Chotto,

4 plugs into 3

You should have a orange tube that was in the car originally, hooked to your stock manifold. That would go between 1 and 2. If you really don't have one, you just need some soft of vacuum tube to plug 'em together.

skibum · 10-19-2008, 05:32 PM

K2S - Any pictures of the snapped stud? I assume it snapped off flush with the head, is that correct?

Are any of you getting some eratic idle patterns? I have about 60-70 miles so far and occasionally the rpms will bounce at idle and a few times the car has died while at a light.

K2S · 10-19-2008, 05:38 PM

Okay so I'm going to the hardware store tomorrow, is there a name for the stud that goes into the head and connects the SC manifold? Maybe I could just extract the stud, and find a bolt that fits, instead of a stud and a nut?

chotto · 10-19-2008, 05:51 PM

Thanks Goat and Brokenboy. As soon as you said the orange hose was still attached to the manifold, I looked right above my head to a shelf I put the manifold on and it was staring me in my face!

All done. Just need my ECU back now!

K2S · 10-19-2008, 06:09 PM

Broken stud

Non broken stud on left, broken one on right

Thanks

dma550 · 10-19-2008, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K2S

I used an extention for my torque wrench. It looks like a regular open end wrench, but the other end attaches to the torque wrench. If you want to get the exact torque, make sure you calculate the length of the extention and adjust the torque wrench accordingly. I forgot the formula but i'm sure someone here knows it

Crow's foot sockets?

skibum · 10-19-2008, 06:27 PM

K2S - You are very fortunate that the stud snapped there and not at the head as that would have required drilling and that is an aweful angle. Just pull the blower back off, grip the stud with some vicegrips and turn it out of there. You will damage the exposed threads but obviously that won't matter anymore. Take the remnants down to a local hardware store and you should be fine.

K2S · 10-19-2008, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dma550

Crow's foot sockets?

The one in the diagram wouldn't clear though, I used something like this

Quote:

Originally Posted by skibum

K2S - You are very fortunate that the stud snapped there and not at the head as that would have required drilling and that is an aweful angle. Just pull the blower back off, grip the stud with some vicegrips and turn it out of there. You will damage the exposed threads but obviously that won't matter anymore. Take the remnants down to a local hardware store and you should be fine.

I was planning on using a screw extractor, The blower was pretty difficult to put in, would the stock bolts fit?

fzust · 10-20-2008, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chotto

As everyone is scrambling to answer my air box hose question, some people can answer this question.

These shims fell out when I lifted up the clam (four on each side). Where were they?

If these are for the rear clam, I believe they come out of behind the 2 bolts that connect the rear clam to the rocker panel on either side.

fzust · 10-20-2008, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skibum

K2S - Any pictures of the snapped stud? I assume it snapped off flush with the head, is that correct?

Are any of you getting some eratic idle patterns? I have about 60-70 miles so far and occasionally the rpms will bounce at idle and a few times the car has died while at a light.

What we've seen is that the idle is almost always better with the SC than prior to. Thus I think either you have a small vacuum leak and it is causing the idle air control to go wonky or you need to add a bit of static idle to the throttle(not sure how this is done on DBW). On the 05 cars you can adjust the idle set screw a bit in about 15 seconds to bump the idle a bit. These are 2 opposite conditions, but can have the same effect.
3rd option is that it may settle down as the car adapts.

brokenboy · 10-20-2008, 09:21 AM

What plugs are people going for?

I pulled my plugs last night, and the stock plugs on my 07 are NGK IFR6A's, which are Iridium.

Earlier in the thread, someone suggested NGK BKR7E-11's which are the copper V-Power plugs. They'll work, but will wear a lot quicker. At least you can gap 'em

I'm thinking of going with the BKR7EIX-11, which appears to be pretty comparable to the stock plug except for the heat range, and appear to be widely available.

Also, is the stock gap 0.044"?

ryoung99 · 10-20-2008, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brokenboy

What plugs are people going for?

I'm thinking of going with the BKR7EIX-11, which appears to be pretty comparable to the stock plug except for the heat range, and appear to be widely available.

Also, is the stock gap 0.044"?

I put in the BKR7EIX-11's and the stock gap is .044".

10-19-2008, 09:19 AM	#261 (permalink)
chotto vv My Awesome Wife vv Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 917	On step 163, you are suppose to reconnect the black hose to the air box flapper. Where does the other end go to? Also, I can't find the orange hose that goes to the SC TB adapter. Where is the other end suppose to go? How do I connect these back together? Attached Images __________________ 2005 SY-BWR Supercharger, Challenger Grill, AreaP single tip exhaust, Ohlin Double Adjustables, RTDbrace, Custom Kirkey 58 Series seats, Schroth 6 pt. harnesses, Multivex mirrors, Odyssey PC625 battery, Micromirror, HID's, V2arms, Sparco removeable steering wheel, 15"/16" Rota's with RA-1's, Pagid RS 4-2 pads, Cup airbox, Saikou Michi catch cans

10-19-2008, 09:57 AM	#263 (permalink)
chotto vv My Awesome Wife vv Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 917	As everyone is scrambling to answer my air box hose question, some people can answer this question. These shims fell out when I lifted up the clam (four on each side). Where were they? Attached Images __________________ 2005 SY-BWR Supercharger, Challenger Grill, AreaP single tip exhaust, Ohlin Double Adjustables, RTDbrace, Custom Kirkey 58 Series seats, Schroth 6 pt. harnesses, Multivex mirrors, Odyssey PC625 battery, Micromirror, HID's, V2arms, Sparco removeable steering wheel, 15"/16" Rota's with RA-1's, Pagid RS 4-2 pads, Cup airbox, Saikou Michi catch cans

10-19-2008, 02:29 PM	#264 (permalink)
architect Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 25	On the road again! All back together and works great! Only 20 miles on the install, so taking it easy, but no lights, leaks, or problems and GREAT power! About 10 hours on the install in my garage (not including the fussing with the ECU for the re-reflash.) Fred - thanks for your help, quick response, and GREAT KIT!!!!!

10-19-2008, 03:22 PM	#266 (permalink)
chotto vv My Awesome Wife vv Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 917	Does someone have a picture or schematic of how the engine cover hinge is seated with the clam? A close up picture of the hinges with the engine cover up would be great. __________________ 2005 SY-BWR Supercharger, Challenger Grill, AreaP single tip exhaust, Ohlin Double Adjustables, RTDbrace, Custom Kirkey 58 Series seats, Schroth 6 pt. harnesses, Multivex mirrors, Odyssey PC625 battery, Micromirror, HID's, V2arms, Sparco removeable steering wheel, 15"/16" Rota's with RA-1's, Pagid RS 4-2 pads, Cup airbox, Saikou Michi catch cans

10-19-2008, 05:27 PM	#268 (permalink)
thegoat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 470	I am not as far along as you, but when I removed the manifold, that orange tube was still attached to it. maybe this helps. __________________ 2009 White w/ Carbon Birkin Super 7 (on order) 2001 Silver Honda Civic Ex (daily driver) ----------- 2006 Polar Blue Exige - Sold 2006 Chrome Orange Elise - Sold 2000 Porsche Boxster - Sold

10-19-2008, 03:22 PM	#265 (permalink)
K2S Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Nassau/Queens Posts: 92	HELP! One of my studs broke off! The ones that connect the S/C to the head. I might've over torqued it, but I was using a torque wrench

10-19-2008, 05:28 PM	#269 (permalink)
brokenboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 126	Chotto, 4 plugs into 3 You should have a orange tube that was in the car originally, hooked to your stock manifold. That would go between 1 and 2. If you really don't have one, you just need some soft of vacuum tube to plug 'em together. __________________ 2007 Ardent Red Elise, track pack, BWR SC 2004 RX-8, 350z muncher 2004 BMW 325i, kiddie hauler

10-19-2008, 05:32 PM	#270 (permalink)
skibum I approve this message Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 261	K2S - Any pictures of the snapped stud? I assume it snapped off flush with the head, is that correct? Are any of you getting some eratic idle patterns? I have about 60-70 miles so far and occasionally the rpms will bounce at idle and a few times the car has died while at a light. __________________ 2006 Exige - Solar Yellow BWR S/C - Tillet B5 CF seats - Arqray SS single - PPE Header & sport cat - TR Motorsports F1 w/R888's - 1934# 2004 s2000 - 378 whp 295 trq 2005 Mini Cooper S 2008 Honda Fit - 35mpg y0! 1965 Austin Mini w/ vtec

10-19-2008, 05:38 PM	#271 (permalink)
K2S Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Nassau/Queens Posts: 92	Okay so I'm going to the hardware store tomorrow, is there a name for the stud that goes into the head and connects the SC manifold? Maybe I could just extract the stud, and find a bolt that fits, instead of a stud and a nut?

10-19-2008, 05:51 PM	#272 (permalink)
chotto vv My Awesome Wife vv Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 917	Thanks Goat and Brokenboy. As soon as you said the orange hose was still attached to the manifold, I looked right above my head to a shelf I put the manifold on and it was staring me in my face! All done. Just need my ECU back now! __________________ 2005 SY-BWR Supercharger, Challenger Grill, AreaP single tip exhaust, Ohlin Double Adjustables, RTDbrace, Custom Kirkey 58 Series seats, Schroth 6 pt. harnesses, Multivex mirrors, Odyssey PC625 battery, Micromirror, HID's, V2arms, Sparco removeable steering wheel, 15"/16" Rota's with RA-1's, Pagid RS 4-2 pads, Cup airbox, Saikou Michi catch cans

10-19-2008, 06:09 PM	#273 (permalink)
K2S Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Nassau/Queens Posts: 92	Broken stud Non broken stud on left, broken one on right Thanks

10-19-2008, 06:27 PM	#275 (permalink)
skibum I approve this message Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 261	K2S - You are very fortunate that the stud snapped there and not at the head as that would have required drilling and that is an aweful angle. Just pull the blower back off, grip the stud with some vicegrips and turn it out of there. You will damage the exposed threads but obviously that won't matter anymore. Take the remnants down to a local hardware store and you should be fine. __________________ 2006 Exige - Solar Yellow BWR S/C - Tillet B5 CF seats - Arqray SS single - PPE Header & sport cat - TR Motorsports F1 w/R888's - 1934# 2004 s2000 - 378 whp 295 trq 2005 Mini Cooper S 2008 Honda Fit - 35mpg y0! 1965 Austin Mini w/ vtec

10-20-2008, 09:21 AM	#279 (permalink)
brokenboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 126	What plugs are people going for? I pulled my plugs last night, and the stock plugs on my 07 are NGK IFR6A's, which are Iridium. Earlier in the thread, someone suggested NGK BKR7E-11's which are the copper V-Power plugs. They'll work, but will wear a lot quicker. At least you can gap 'em I'm thinking of going with the BKR7EIX-11, which appears to be pretty comparable to the stock plug except for the heat range, and appear to be widely available. Also, is the stock gap 0.044"? __________________ 2007 Ardent Red Elise, track pack, BWR SC 2004 RX-8, 350z muncher 2004 BMW 325i, kiddie hauler

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