'Official BWR SC Install Thread' - Page 17 - LotusTalk

ishur · 10-25-2008, 05:01 PM

Looking at that picture, it appears that FVMC may have put something back on that they shouldn't have. There is a black plastic cover bolted on the top obscuring the BWR cover underneath--see my two pictures. Should that piece not have been put back on, or what? If it should come off, how hard is that to do? FVMC is an hour and a half away from me, don't want to kill a whole day if it's a simple matter of undoing and redoing a couple of bolts. Fred?

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Originally Posted by EBTurbo

We've done a few now. here is a pic of the last one we did.

EB Turbo
Dynamic Racing solutions Technician

Randy Chase · 10-25-2008, 05:11 PM

Those three bolts. Extremely simple. It does not hurt to have the cover on. Does not look as nice with it on in my opinion.

EBTurbo · 10-25-2008, 05:24 PM

torx 30.

EB Turbo

thegoat · 10-25-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EBTurbo

It does.

EB Turbo

Ok. The directions indicate otherwise, but I will go with what works.

brokenboy · 10-25-2008, 07:03 PM

Wheeeeeeee!

Finally drove mine today. Totally different car. No obvious torque peaks, but I didn't go more than about 75% throttle. You know, taking it easy

The sound? None I can pick up when it's at idle or cruise, but when the bypass closes, my car screams. I love it. Huge whine from over my shoulder. I don't have any aftermarket headers or exhaust, but I do have the Lotus Sport/TRD airbox with a green air filter.

My car does the very slight delay when you get on it sometimes too. If it is the bypass closing, I'm surprised the bypass is that slow. I'm actually wondering if it's the cam switching now that the cam is variable on load (PES tune). I'll have to drive it lots more to figure it out

I ended up with one bolt in the end: A 10mm head, grade 8 bolt with no washer. The threads are very short. Anyone remember this from anywhere? I'm wondering if it's really off the car or kit or if it was just lying around in my garage....

ishur · 10-25-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Those three bolts. Extremely simple. It does not hurt to have the cover on. Does not look as nice with it on in my opinion.

Thanks, Randy, also EB. "Extremely simple" fits within my capabilities. Hopefully.

And I actually have a T30 (other than the one that comes with the car). What is the purpose of that shield? To keep water off?

EBTurbo · 10-25-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ishur

What is the purpose of that shield? To keep water off?

It is to hide the wiring harness, injector tails and upper intake insulator. you can see in my pic that I tucked all the wiring so, you wont see it.

The early 05' cars use 5mm allens and the later 05'+ use torx 30. The instruction were designed for an early 05' with amendments to accommodate 06'+ DBW cars.

EB Turbo
DRS

steidley · 10-26-2008, 07:51 AM

Steps 77/78 on a 2006 with Clam On

This is to remove the throttle body. I've got all 4 nuts off for spacer and 3 of the 4 for the body to the manifold. I can't reach the lower forward bolt.

I was hoping the throttle body would just come out, then I could remove the last bolt. The collant line is preventing me from removing the TB. Are people just taking this line off? Instructions explicitly say that it reamins attached.

Thoughts?

Adam

skibum · 10-26-2008, 08:06 AM

Steidley - You may get better access to the bolt by removing the top of the intake box and the duct that connect the intake to the TB. These need to be removed later on so it will not hurt anything. I was able to pull my TB off without touching the coolant lines although it did require a little tug.

Phantom · 10-27-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by brokenboy

I ended up with one bolt in the end: A 10mm head, grade 8 bolt with no washer. The threads are very short. Anyone remember this from anywhere? I'm wondering if it's really off the car or kit or if it was just lying around in my garage....

I don't have the instructions in front of me, but I think it's #64 that states (3) 10mm screws are removed from the rail- Later, when we're buttoning everything back up, only two of those are used because one was on the old intake (I think)- I have the same screw left over-

thegoat · 10-27-2008, 06:55 PM

Are you guys putting you cover for the injectors/fuel rail back on after the install? I don't really feel comfortable leaving the injector wires uncovered (even though taped and heat shrink covered)? I put mine back on, but it looks a little silly. Anyone have an aftermarket solution for that?

Also, mine is installed as off late saturday night. only had a few minutes to test drive (still hadn't replaced body parts) to make sure it was all in place. noticed that it goes through the shifts very quickly now. can't wait to break it in.

MightyMike · 10-27-2008, 08:30 PM

Fred,

I must mail back the bushing adjustment tool included with the supercharger kit. Need a mailing address.

Thanks!

Randy Chase · 10-27-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoat

Are you guys putting you cover for the injectors/fuel rail back on after the install? I don't really feel comfortable leaving the injector wires uncovered (even though taped and heat shrink covered)? I put mine back on, but it looks a little silly. Anyone have an aftermarket solution for that?

I trimmed mine to look more like the Lotus Exige S one.

thegoat · 10-27-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Chase

I trimmed mine to look more like the Lotus Exige S one.

No rough edges? What did you use to trim?

Randy Chase · 10-27-2008, 09:55 PM

Dremel wheel to cut then sand it.

I think it would be fine if you wanted it to look nice, to finish with paint.

thegoat · 10-27-2008, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Dremel wheel to cut then sand it.

I think it would be fine if you wanted it to look nice, to finish with paint.

Mine is already painted, but I might give this a shot. I really like the look of the black bwr sc right there, not covered up.

MightyMike · 10-28-2008, 05:27 AM

Here's a pic of my cover. Used a band saw to trim off the edge, then used a rasp and tabletop sander to finish off. IMO, looks better than leaving the cover off entirely.

architect · 10-28-2008, 06:14 AM

Took about 20 seconds with a radial arm saw, carbide blade. Was previously painted - No problem!

plastique999 · 10-28-2008, 09:36 AM

Can people comment on the PES tune? I've heard of people needing reflash?

ishur · 10-28-2008, 11:38 AM

I have the PES tune. About 200 miles on the installation and so far, it has run perfectly. No idle issues, no hesitations, no CEL's etc. How it compares to other tunes in terms of relative performance, I couldn't say, but I have no complaints at all.

10-25-2008, 05:11 PM	#322 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,175 Images: 761	Those three bolts. Extremely simple. It does not hurt to have the cover on. Does not look as nice with it on in my opinion. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! http://www.facebook.com/randychase 1991 Toyota MR2. AutoX Beast 2006 Noble M400. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Canyon Carver. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle. On Order: Lotus Evora Next: McLaren MP4-12C

10-25-2008, 05:24 PM	#323 (permalink)
EBTurbo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 82	torx 30. EB Turbo __________________ Guldstrand Motorsports Technician. Burbank, CA. PM for custom work and service quotes.

10-25-2008, 07:03 PM	#325 (permalink)
brokenboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 126	Wheeeeeeee! Finally drove mine today. Totally different car. No obvious torque peaks, but I didn't go more than about 75% throttle. You know, taking it easy The sound? None I can pick up when it's at idle or cruise, but when the bypass closes, my car screams. I love it. Huge whine from over my shoulder. I don't have any aftermarket headers or exhaust, but I do have the Lotus Sport/TRD airbox with a green air filter. My car does the very slight delay when you get on it sometimes too. If it is the bypass closing, I'm surprised the bypass is that slow. I'm actually wondering if it's the cam switching now that the cam is variable on load (PES tune). I'll have to drive it lots more to figure it out I ended up with one bolt in the end: A 10mm head, grade 8 bolt with no washer. The threads are very short. Anyone remember this from anywhere? I'm wondering if it's really off the car or kit or if it was just lying around in my garage.... __________________ 2007 Ardent Red Elise, track pack, BWR SC 2004 RX-8, 350z muncher 2004 BMW 325i, kiddie hauler

10-26-2008, 08:06 AM	#329 (permalink)
skibum I approve this message Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 261	Steidley - You may get better access to the bolt by removing the top of the intake box and the duct that connect the intake to the TB. These need to be removed later on so it will not hurt anything. I was able to pull my TB off without touching the coolant lines although it did require a little tug. __________________ 2006 Exige - Solar Yellow BWR S/C - Tillet B5 CF seats - Arqray SS single - PPE Header & sport cat - TR Motorsports F1 w/R888's - 1934# 2004 s2000 - 378 whp 295 trq 2005 Mini Cooper S 2008 Honda Fit - 35mpg y0! 1965 Austin Mini w/ vtec

10-27-2008, 06:55 PM	#331 (permalink)
thegoat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 470	Are you guys putting you cover for the injectors/fuel rail back on after the install? I don't really feel comfortable leaving the injector wires uncovered (even though taped and heat shrink covered)? I put mine back on, but it looks a little silly. Anyone have an aftermarket solution for that? Also, mine is installed as off late saturday night. only had a few minutes to test drive (still hadn't replaced body parts) to make sure it was all in place. noticed that it goes through the shifts very quickly now. can't wait to break it in. __________________ 2009 White w/ Carbon Birkin Super 7 (on order) 2001 Silver Honda Civic Ex (daily driver) ----------- 2006 Polar Blue Exige - Sold 2006 Chrome Orange Elise - Sold 2000 Porsche Boxster - Sold

10-26-2008, 07:51 AM	#328 (permalink)
steidley 06 CaRed Elise Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 135	Steps 77/78 on a 2006 with Clam On This is to remove the throttle body. I've got all 4 nuts off for spacer and 3 of the 4 for the body to the manifold. I can't reach the lower forward bolt. I was hoping the throttle body would just come out, then I could remove the last bolt. The collant line is preventing me from removing the TB. Are people just taking this line off? Instructions explicitly say that it reamins attached. Thoughts? Adam

10-27-2008, 08:30 PM	#332 (permalink)
MightyMike Legend in my own mind Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 833 Images: 9	Fred, I must mail back the bushing adjustment tool included with the supercharger kit. Need a mailing address. Thanks! __________________ 06 ST Elise 02 SLK32 AMG BWR Supercharged w/CharlieX tune, Borla Exhaust, OCC, ACT XTSS Clutch, Zeitronix A/F Meter, LETSLA, Manly Mounts, RTD Brace, ReVerie Diffuser, Scoops, Side Skirts, & Shifter Ball, Forcefed Spoiler, & a bunch of other stuff

10-27-2008, 09:55 PM	#335 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,175 Images: 761	Dremel wheel to cut then sand it. I think it would be fine if you wanted it to look nice, to finish with paint. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! http://www.facebook.com/randychase 1991 Toyota MR2. AutoX Beast 2006 Noble M400. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Canyon Carver. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle. On Order: Lotus Evora Next: McLaren MP4-12C

10-28-2008, 05:27 AM	#337 (permalink)
MightyMike Legend in my own mind Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 833 Images: 9	Here's a pic of my cover. Used a band saw to trim off the edge, then used a rasp and tabletop sander to finish off. IMO, looks better than leaving the cover off entirely. __________________ 06 ST Elise 02 SLK32 AMG BWR Supercharged w/CharlieX tune, Borla Exhaust, OCC, ACT XTSS Clutch, Zeitronix A/F Meter, LETSLA, Manly Mounts, RTD Brace, ReVerie Diffuser, Scoops, Side Skirts, & Shifter Ball, Forcefed Spoiler, & a bunch of other stuff

10-28-2008, 06:14 AM	#338 (permalink)
architect Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 25	Cover trim Took about 20 seconds with a radial arm saw, carbide blade. Was previously painted - No problem! Attached Images

10-28-2008, 09:36 AM	#339 (permalink)
plastique999 Form and Function Join Date: May 2008 Location: Alta Loma, CA Posts: 3,046	Can people comment on the PES tune? I've heard of people needing reflash? __________________ www.FaceNBody.com 2005 Lotus Elise: 2bular decat\GT3 exhaust,HID's,turn signal&rear fins delete, CFside scoops, CFbinnacle,CFcenter console,Zoom CF mirror,APR Aero kit,CF 5-elem. diffuser,Exige mesh,Ohlins DA,RTD brace,RAC 'lites,Toyo R888's,HawkHT10's,CO painted calipers,SS lines,Reverie XC CF seat,Reverie CF steering wheel,Schroth Profi II 6 pt harness,shifter re-Enforcer,Manly mounts, Accusump,Moroso pan,BWR key to BWR S/C! Spec Racer Ford #237

10-28-2008, 11:38 AM	#340 (permalink)
ishur Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 194	I have the PES tune. About 200 miles on the installation and so far, it has run perfectly. No idle issues, no hesitations, no CEL's etc. How it compares to other tunes in terms of relative performance, I couldn't say, but I have no complaints at all.

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