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10-01-2008, 08:49 PM
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OK, CEL back on... still running rich. That rules out the air filter.
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10-01-2008, 09:03 PM
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Are there any other parts recommended to install at the same time as the BWR kit...
1) Oil pan anything else?
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10-03-2008, 06:03 PM
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So I have read the posts regarding doing the install with the clam on vs. off, can someone write up the pro's and con's? And the estimated time saving for a first time installation on an Exige.
We are pretty handy working in tight spaces, thus that won't be the problem. But I would prefer to learn from your experience. Thanks, Rick btw. S/C got here today and we start work on Sunday evening (pull the ECU, do as much as we can, send the ECU Monday, finish Monday and wait for ECU to return.)
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10-03-2008, 08:15 PM
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I got my SC a few days ago, it's acting as table art for now.
I took the blue tape off this morning, and when I ran my finger along the inside of the manifold, it was gritty and my finger came out dirty. Its a fine powder that seems like it would do a nice job enlarging your bore by about 0.015". Anyone have any suggestions on how to clean it out? I'd prefer to not take the SC off the manifold, but if I have to... Maybe just pass a rag through the manifold from runner to runner a few times? |
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10-03-2008, 10:29 PM
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I am starting my install tomorrow. I looked through the instructions and the instruction photos - it looks like half the process would be the rear clam if taken off. I was planning on taking it off, but unsure now. It really looks like a lot of extra work.
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10-03-2008, 10:35 PM
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10-04-2008, 04:10 PM
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Well, I hit my first snag. I have an oem harness bar. I have spent a few hours getting to this point, and now I am stuck. I searched on the forum and found the way to do it, but I am not sure it worth the necessary extra complication to remove single use rivets and then get more from the dealer. I wasn't too sure about taking the clam off to begin with, and now I am half way into the process and considering abandoning removing the rear clam. What I am really wondering now is if I will screw myself by getting halfway through the rear clam removal but not finishing.
I guess I will find out.
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10-04-2008, 04:50 PM
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You can't remove the clam if you don't remove the harness bar.
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10-04-2008, 04:59 PM
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A month ago I bought a header and decat pipe. Will I have to ditch those for the supercharger?
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10-04-2008, 05:05 PM
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The Exige has more room to complete the install (I did one). It's definitely a leave clam on project. The Elise is a coin flip. The SC install is a lot easier with the clam off. No need to jack up the car and lay on the ground. 95% done from the top.
Take your time and have fun. After the installs complete you will go through mechanics withdraw and start looking for some more wrenching to do.
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10-04-2008, 06:13 PM
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Skibum I feel your pain. No tune yet exists for the addons and BWR supercharger. I wanted to buy new intake and header to install with the supercharger, but waiting for tune to be developed so it doesnt run lean. Perhaps Charlie has a katana tune for intake and header mods ? FVMC said they would have no problem using a katana tune for the BWR supercharger as it uses the same Eaton supercharger.
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10-05-2008, 08:34 AM
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Thanks Jim, we will do it with the clam on then, I also have a factory harness bar thus do not want to deal with that mess. In addition we have a lift at the house so that should help as well. Rick
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10-05-2008, 09:26 AM
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Now that I have switched to clam on, I would still recommend removing the engine bay lid and those side things/covers on the side of the engine bay, as well as wheel wells.
sucks I wasted all that time on first half of the clam off procedure.
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10-05-2008, 07:08 PM
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Anyone installing EFI with the supercharger ? I am considering, studying EFI thread, but dunno if I want to devote $3k for EFI, $1k for additional guages, 40 hours time and 10 hours dyno for 10 extra horsepower. Then after all that would want to buy more aftermarket parts to take advantage of EFI, but further hp gains not yet clearly determined. Am I missing something ? Seems to make that $/hp not cost effective unless serious tinkerer.
Soon as I have some rain in forcast will start, clam on. |
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10-05-2008, 07:15 PM
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Started today, well actually I cleaned the garage to make plenty of room, took off the hatch and pulled the ECU.
When taking off the ECU I broke one of the latches (oops) on the plug. Anyone know if I can order them as a separate piece? Changed over the injector wires as well, then called it a day. Tomorrow we will take off the intake and hopefully move the alternator. Then Tuesday finish the SC installation and wait for my ECU from PES. Rick
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10-05-2008, 07:26 PM
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You can potentially gain good power by using an EFI, but as you noted, it comes at a high cost. I say if you intend to add other mods such as exhaust/intake/lower pulley size, then going EFI ain't so bad all things considered. If you just don't care about max power then keep the $$ The system will at least have some resale value. You can resell it if you don't like it and recoup most of the initial costs. I guess that's a plus. 
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10-05-2008, 09:12 PM
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ECU is throwing the code, and the OBD-II logged short term fuel trim at idle is always pretty negative (at least negative enough to throw a code within three drives). I've toyed with installing an AFR gauge... I haven't logged while driving.
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10-06-2008, 01:57 PM
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PES will do some customization for you if you ask. Not sure how much it costs.
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