'Official BWR SC Install Thread' - Page 4 - LotusTalk

skibum · 10-07-2008, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fzust

It will run leaner with the header & exhaust, however as it is comprehended in the closed-loop control of the ECU, the car will adapt over time. with a different intake, the Mass-Air sensor diameter is changed and thus calibration of the closed-loop control is changed and no adaption will occur.

So just to make sure my logic is right here, the ecu will adapt for the exhaust & header to prevent a lean condition. The hp gains from these parts won't be optimal as if the ecu was specifically tuned for them but I will still save some weight and get the nicer exhaust tone. This sound about right?

thegoat · 10-07-2008, 05:05 PM

I hope to finish this weekend. I have just been getting crushed at work to work on it on the weeknights.

K2S · 10-07-2008, 06:02 PM

I just pulled my 20 AMP fuse and my engine won't start, all I could hear is my alternator cranking. Is my battery dead, or did I do something wrong?

K2S · 10-07-2008, 06:19 PM

okay nevermind, plugged the fuse back in car started fine, shut off the engines, removed the fuse. Started it back up again, car shut off like the instructions said it would

ryoung99 · 10-07-2008, 11:49 PM

We are done, total time 7.5 hours. All I need is the ECU back from PES.

I know they got it today, if they were able to get it done I should have it back on Thursday or Friday. It is going to be hell watching the car sit there with no ECU. I guess tomorrow night would be a good time to wax it.

Honestly I think the next one we could do in under 6 hours as we spent much of the 7.5 hours looking at the pictures and following the directions step by step and were not able to fully double team the job.

While we did it with the clam on, I would suggest putting the car on 4 jack stands, taking the right rear wheel off as well as the wheel liner and the belly pan and rear diffuser. All of it will come off in less than 20 minutes (if you are really slow) and it makes the job a lot easier. We did not start off by doing any of this and it probably wasted over an hour when we finally decided to take it off. Also on the Exige, in the engine compartment there are two panels that snap right off that also help accessibility (found them at the very end where trying to put the air box back together).

We were able to get to the belt tensioner from the top tonight and found that it does not take that much pressure, you just have to apply constant pressure to allow the pressure cylinder to compress. We used a 3/8 ratchet with a long extension with a socket attached, worked just fine.

Anyways it is late and I need to go to bed, not that I will be able to sleep.

I would like to thank Fred again for the group buy, had he not done this it would have been next spring before I would have done this mod. I owe you.

Rick

Brikhaus · 10-08-2008, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryoung99

I would like to thank Fred again for the group buy, had he not done this it would have been next spring before I would have done this mod. I owe you.

Rick

I am into giving Fred a big high five

-- I was planning on this some time next year - but the group buy was just too hard to pass up. I know I have about another month left of weather and this mod is going making it super sweet.

snuggles1 · 10-08-2008, 11:39 AM

"We are done, total time 7.5 hours. All I need is the ECU back from PES." > hey, how long is this taking to get this back from PES nowadays? any recent experiences people can post?

ryoung99 · 10-08-2008, 12:50 PM

PES got mine at 10:00 a.m. yesterday and I was told that it would either go out same day or the following day (today) I paid for 2nd day air (should have gone with one day). Thus I expect to have mine back by Friday although I have not heard for sure the status.

I will post when I get it so everyone has an idea.

rstutts · 10-09-2008, 08:35 AM

I have decided to do the install myself. I am going to do it with the clam off, just so I will have more room to see what I am doing. The adventure begins tonight! Wish me luck.
Rick

ryoung99 · 10-09-2008, 09:20 AM

Rick,

I pm'd you my cell phone and a link that give some good diagrams of the engine. If you need any advice just call. I will carry a laptop and the photo cd with me this weekend so if you get stuck I can help.

Also I have a couple of thoughts I will email you tonight that will help make the job a bit easier.

Rick

K2S · 10-09-2008, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rstutts

I have decided to do the install myself. I am going to do it with the clam off, just so I will have more room to see what I am doing. The adventure begins tonight! Wish me luck.
Rick

I'm in the same boat as you. Haven't done anything more than an oil change, but with those instructions, it shouldn't be any harder than putting togther a iKea furniture.

rstutts · 10-09-2008, 01:14 PM

I would offer to give you some advise on installing the s/c, but it would be like the Blind leading the Blind. Heck, what can go wrong

.
Good luck with your's.
Rick
P.S. I keep saying this, Thanks Rick!

ryoung99 · 10-09-2008, 03:42 PM

I am curious, is anyone thinking about putting a s or s/c on their car to indicate it has been supercharged?

I was thinking about doing something, but my wife was trying to talk me out of it. What I was considering was making a little Superman S that I would put behind the Exige on the back and maybe one under the side lights on the front fenders.

We own a sign shop, thus I could cut a bunch of these out (whatever these is) and send them to the individuals from the group buy.

Any thoughts?

Rick

luxige · 10-09-2008, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryoung99

What I was considering was making a little Superman S that I would put behind the Exige on the back and maybe one under the side lights on the front fenders.

We own a sign shop, thus I could cut a bunch of these out (whatever these is) and send them to the individuals from the group buy.

Any thoughts?

Effin' A!

(Superman 'S'. Why didn't I think of that?)

rstutts · 10-09-2008, 08:26 PM

and didn't tear anything up! Tomorrow morning the clam comes off.
Yee haw!

ryoung99 · 10-10-2008, 10:14 AM

Congrats Rick, glad to hear it is going well.

I am still waiting for my ECU, hopefully today.

As for the stickers, I am having a bunch of them made in black today (who knows how many) and I would be happy to send to them to anyone who wants one. I will post a picture this weekend.

Rick

Noisycow · 10-10-2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryoung99

We are done, total time 7.5 hours. All I need is the ECU back from PES.

100% respect for someone that can do that. It would take me many days.

Mimzy · 10-10-2008, 11:28 AM

If anyone else is having a problem with the alternator relocation make sure the bushing is in far enough. I ended up using the tool like 4 times and it still would not go on. Then hand sanded the paint off of the new bushing that you install with the alternator. After that it slid in with minimal effort. You have to get the alternator in the right angle and it kind of falls in place. I am also waiting for the ECU to come back. The whole install was pretty easy the hardest part was putting the belt back on.

ryoung99 · 10-10-2008, 11:35 AM

I am on the phone with my wife right now my ECU is at the house....

Within a few hours I will be

And then my wife will be

in order to stop me.

NoisyCow,

Remember I did it with a friend who is a mechanic by trade and has worked on tons of force fed cars. It was worth the 12 pack of Keystone Light that I had to buy for him.

Mimzy,

What new bushing??? We did not replace the lower bushing, just pushed it in.. in fact my kit did not have a new bushing in it. We did put a little grease (very thin film) on the spacer and the alternator to get them to slide but it took a bunch of work to get the alignment right on the lower mount.

But boy was it rewarding when it was finally done.

charliex · 10-10-2008, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkyonion

Skibum I feel your pain. No tune yet exists for the addons and BWR supercharger. I wanted to buy new intake and header to install with the supercharger, but waiting for tune to be developed so it doesnt run lean. Perhaps Charlie has a katana tune for intake and header mods ? FVMC said they would have no problem using a katana tune for the BWR supercharger as it uses the same Eaton supercharger.

I have a couple of different header setups going but they've all been S's, but so far we're tuning on per car basis. The headers will cause the tune to run lean, you'll probably see 13.1-13.5 area, I realise there is a disagreement going here and rather than get into it again, i'd say go with what fred/PES recommends for their tune, and with what i recommend for my tune and leave it at that.

In the process of a 4-2 header tune for the katana though, i also have the FF race headers 4-1 to tune for at some point, just need to go to the dyno again. I do have a test tune for the tubulars for the katana, but its not been released yet.

I've done a few of the bwr cars so far, have yet to hear of a problem.

10-07-2008, 05:05 PM	#62 (permalink)
thegoat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 470	I hope to finish this weekend. I have just been getting crushed at work to work on it on the weeknights. __________________ 2009 White w/ Carbon Birkin Super 7 (on order) 2001 Silver Honda Civic Ex (daily driver) ----------- 2006 Polar Blue Exige - Sold 2006 Chrome Orange Elise - Sold 2000 Porsche Boxster - Sold

10-07-2008, 11:49 PM	#65 (permalink)
ryoung99 Selfish Asshat Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Shingle Springs, CA Posts: 445	We are done, total time 7.5 hours. All I need is the ECU back from PES. I know they got it today, if they were able to get it done I should have it back on Thursday or Friday. It is going to be hell watching the car sit there with no ECU. I guess tomorrow night would be a good time to wax it. Honestly I think the next one we could do in under 6 hours as we spent much of the 7.5 hours looking at the pictures and following the directions step by step and were not able to fully double team the job. While we did it with the clam on, I would suggest putting the car on 4 jack stands, taking the right rear wheel off as well as the wheel liner and the belly pan and rear diffuser. All of it will come off in less than 20 minutes (if you are really slow) and it makes the job a lot easier. We did not start off by doing any of this and it probably wasted over an hour when we finally decided to take it off. Also on the Exige, in the engine compartment there are two panels that snap right off that also help accessibility (found them at the very end where trying to put the air box back together). We were able to get to the belt tensioner from the top tonight and found that it does not take that much pressure, you just have to apply constant pressure to allow the pressure cylinder to compress. We used a 3/8 ratchet with a long extension with a socket attached, worked just fine. Anyways it is late and I need to go to bed, not that I will be able to sleep. I would like to thank Fred again for the group buy, had he not done this it would have been next spring before I would have done this mod. I owe you. Rick __________________ 2006 Exige StormTi, BWR S/C, Nitto NT-01's (love em) 2005 Stealth Focus Midget (3 of them); 2001 Ocke Mannerfelt B-24 "Batboat" 2007 Honda S2000 (wifes car), 2003 Insight (commuter), 2000 Ford Excursion 2004 Meridan 411 and 96 SeaDoo Speedster boats 2004 Newmar Kountry Star RV and various racing karts and snowmobiles www.capitalcitymidgets.com

10-08-2008, 11:39 AM	#67 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 916	"We are done, total time 7.5 hours. All I need is the ECU back from PES." > hey, how long is this taking to get this back from PES nowadays? any recent experiences people can post? __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop

10-08-2008, 12:50 PM	#68 (permalink)
ryoung99 Selfish Asshat Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Shingle Springs, CA Posts: 445	PES got mine at 10:00 a.m. yesterday and I was told that it would either go out same day or the following day (today) I paid for 2nd day air (should have gone with one day). Thus I expect to have mine back by Friday although I have not heard for sure the status. I will post when I get it so everyone has an idea. __________________ 2006 Exige StormTi, BWR S/C, Nitto NT-01's (love em) 2005 Stealth Focus Midget (3 of them); 2001 Ocke Mannerfelt B-24 "Batboat" 2007 Honda S2000 (wifes car), 2003 Insight (commuter), 2000 Ford Excursion 2004 Meridan 411 and 96 SeaDoo Speedster boats 2004 Newmar Kountry Star RV and various racing karts and snowmobiles www.capitalcitymidgets.com

10-09-2008, 08:35 AM	#69 (permalink)
rstutts Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Martin, TN Posts: 242	Mechanically Challenged here! I have decided to do the install myself. I am going to do it with the clam off, just so I will have more room to see what I am doing. The adventure begins tonight! Wish me luck. Rick __________________ 2005 Solar Yellow Elise touring package, star shield, hard top, soft top, ACT HDSS clutch, Saikou Michi catch cans, LED tail lights and VF II, 288 whp () 2001 Green Toyota Tacoma, 4 x 4 2008 Red 5455 Massey Ferguson, 6 x 6, cab, ipod, GPS navigation, regular beer holder 2001 Yellow Cat D3G-LGP, custom made beer holder

10-07-2008, 06:02 PM	#63 (permalink)
K2S Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Nassau/Queens Posts: 92	I just pulled my 20 AMP fuse and my engine won't start, all I could hear is my alternator cranking. Is my battery dead, or did I do something wrong?

10-07-2008, 06:19 PM	#64 (permalink)
K2S Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Nassau/Queens Posts: 92	okay nevermind, plugged the fuse back in car started fine, shut off the engines, removed the fuse. Started it back up again, car shut off like the instructions said it would

10-09-2008, 09:20 AM	#70 (permalink)
ryoung99 Selfish Asshat Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Shingle Springs, CA Posts: 445	Rick, I pm'd you my cell phone and a link that give some good diagrams of the engine. If you need any advice just call. I will carry a laptop and the photo cd with me this weekend so if you get stuck I can help. Also I have a couple of thoughts I will email you tonight that will help make the job a bit easier. Rick __________________ 2006 Exige StormTi, BWR S/C, Nitto NT-01's (love em) 2005 Stealth Focus Midget (3 of them); 2001 Ocke Mannerfelt B-24 "Batboat" 2007 Honda S2000 (wifes car), 2003 Insight (commuter), 2000 Ford Excursion 2004 Meridan 411 and 96 SeaDoo Speedster boats 2004 Newmar Kountry Star RV and various racing karts and snowmobiles www.capitalcitymidgets.com

10-09-2008, 01:14 PM	#72 (permalink)
rstutts Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Martin, TN Posts: 242	What the heck is a iKea furniture? I would offer to give you some advise on installing the s/c, but it would be like the Blind leading the Blind. Heck, what can go wrong. Good luck with your's. Rick P.S. I keep saying this, Thanks Rick! __________________ 2005 Solar Yellow Elise touring package, star shield, hard top, soft top, ACT HDSS clutch, Saikou Michi catch cans, LED tail lights and VF II, 288 whp () 2001 Green Toyota Tacoma, 4 x 4 2008 Red 5455 Massey Ferguson, 6 x 6, cab, ipod, GPS navigation, regular beer holder 2001 Yellow Cat D3G-LGP, custom made beer holder

10-09-2008, 03:42 PM	#73 (permalink)
ryoung99 Selfish Asshat Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Shingle Springs, CA Posts: 445	I am curious, is anyone thinking about putting a s or s/c on their car to indicate it has been supercharged? I was thinking about doing something, but my wife was trying to talk me out of it. What I was considering was making a little Superman S that I would put behind the Exige on the back and maybe one under the side lights on the front fenders. We own a sign shop, thus I could cut a bunch of these out (whatever these is) and send them to the individuals from the group buy. Any thoughts? Rick __________________ 2006 Exige StormTi, BWR S/C, Nitto NT-01's (love em) 2005 Stealth Focus Midget (3 of them); 2001 Ocke Mannerfelt B-24 "Batboat" 2007 Honda S2000 (wifes car), 2003 Insight (commuter), 2000 Ford Excursion 2004 Meridan 411 and 96 SeaDoo Speedster boats 2004 Newmar Kountry Star RV and various racing karts and snowmobiles www.capitalcitymidgets.com

10-09-2008, 08:26 PM	#75 (permalink)
rstutts Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Martin, TN Posts: 242	I made it to number 44 tonight and didn't tear anything up! Tomorrow morning the clam comes off. Yee haw! __________________ 2005 Solar Yellow Elise touring package, star shield, hard top, soft top, ACT HDSS clutch, Saikou Michi catch cans, LED tail lights and VF II, 288 whp () 2001 Green Toyota Tacoma, 4 x 4 2008 Red 5455 Massey Ferguson, 6 x 6, cab, ipod, GPS navigation, regular beer holder 2001 Yellow Cat D3G-LGP, custom made beer holder

10-10-2008, 10:14 AM	#76 (permalink)
ryoung99 Selfish Asshat Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Shingle Springs, CA Posts: 445	Congrats Rick, glad to hear it is going well. I am still waiting for my ECU, hopefully today. As for the stickers, I am having a bunch of them made in black today (who knows how many) and I would be happy to send to them to anyone who wants one. I will post a picture this weekend. Rick __________________ 2006 Exige StormTi, BWR S/C, Nitto NT-01's (love em) 2005 Stealth Focus Midget (3 of them); 2001 Ocke Mannerfelt B-24 "Batboat" 2007 Honda S2000 (wifes car), 2003 Insight (commuter), 2000 Ford Excursion 2004 Meridan 411 and 96 SeaDoo Speedster boats 2004 Newmar Kountry Star RV and various racing karts and snowmobiles www.capitalcitymidgets.com

10-10-2008, 11:28 AM	#78 (permalink)
Mimzy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 62	Alternator relocation If anyone else is having a problem with the alternator relocation make sure the bushing is in far enough. I ended up using the tool like 4 times and it still would not go on. Then hand sanded the paint off of the new bushing that you install with the alternator. After that it slid in with minimal effort. You have to get the alternator in the right angle and it kind of falls in place. I am also waiting for the ECU to come back. The whole install was pretty easy the hardest part was putting the belt back on.

10-10-2008, 11:35 AM	#79 (permalink)
ryoung99 Selfish Asshat Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Shingle Springs, CA Posts: 445	I am on the phone with my wife right now my ECU is at the house.... Within a few hours I will be And then my wife will be in order to stop me. NoisyCow, Remember I did it with a friend who is a mechanic by trade and has worked on tons of force fed cars. It was worth the 12 pack of Keystone Light that I had to buy for him. Mimzy, What new bushing??? We did not replace the lower bushing, just pushed it in.. in fact my kit did not have a new bushing in it. We did put a little grease (very thin film) on the spacer and the alternator to get them to slide but it took a bunch of work to get the alignment right on the lower mount. But boy was it rewarding when it was finally done. __________________ 2006 Exige StormTi, BWR S/C, Nitto NT-01's (love em) 2005 Stealth Focus Midget (3 of them); 2001 Ocke Mannerfelt B-24 "Batboat" 2007 Honda S2000 (wifes car), 2003 Insight (commuter), 2000 Ford Excursion 2004 Meridan 411 and 96 SeaDoo Speedster boats 2004 Newmar Kountry Star RV and various racing karts and snowmobiles www.capitalcitymidgets.com

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