Preperation for a new Oil Filter Sticky - Need Your Input... - LotusTalk

IBCJ · 07-14-2005, 06:47 PM

I’m looking to perform my first oil change on my Elise, and hope to make a one-stop sticky post reference for everyone here. So far I’m frustrated with what I’ve been able to track down online, and I haven’t been able to gather all the facts here on ET. If you could all help (read: correct) me with the following, I’ll submit it as a sticky in the next week or so..

Subjectively, it seems we should all stay away from the YZZA1 and YZZD1. If you want to stay OE then the 10004 is the way to go (make sure it has a red gasket!). If you want to go OE+, then the TRD (but which one – help me here guys) seems the way to go. If you want to go aftermarket, than the K&N seems to be your best bet.

Here’s where I’m at so far – I’ve been able to determine that the following oil filters seem to be most common:

Toyota OE #90915-YZZA1
Less than optimal filter, black gasket, black housing.
~$8 at any Toyota Parts Desk ($4 online)

Toyota OE #90915-10004
Optimal, red gasket, black housing, used by most Lotus Dealers.
~$12 at some local Toyota Parts Desk. Some dealers won’t order it, some will. Keep dialing. ($8 online)

Toyota OE #90915-YZZD1
Still less optimal, but slightly bigger than the YZZA1 filter, but of the same (sub par) “grade” of construction as the YZZA1. OE for Lexus IS300 motor,
~$8 at any Toyota Parts Desk ($4 online)

Toyota Racing Development #00602-90915-006
USA made YZZA1 and 10004 replacement, not known to be used on an Elise yet. ~$13 online

Toyota Racing Development #00642-90915-003
Japanese made YZZA1 and 10004 replacement, not known to be used on an Elise yet. ~$22 online

Toyota Racing Development #90915-001
Japanese made (red housing) replacement, seems to be preferred by many eTalkers, but I cannot find much information on this filter. ~$24 online.

K&N HP-2009
Optimal filter, used by many eTalkers (endorsed by Stan!), good filtration (better than the OE stuff) and good flow. ~$12 at most auto parts stores.

Known filters that DO NOT work:
TRD #90915-07

Informative threads and pictures:
Oil Filters...Alternates...Comments
It IS possible to get the right oil filter!

Online Places to buy:
http://www.mcgeorgeparts.com
http://www.autobarn.net

Thanks much to Stan and Raggedy1 – most of the above was stolen from their posts…

MattG · 07-14-2005, 10:10 PM

Here is the information I've compiled on this subject from various threads here:

Filter: same filter as 2004 Celica GTS. Uses a 3/4-16 thread.
Lotus part number 120E6277S
Toyota 90915-10004 - same as factory filter
Toyota 90915-YZZA1 - similar to 10004, but different internal construction.
Toyota 90915-YZZD1 (larger than the YZZA1)
K&N HP-2009
K&N HP-1003 (this is smaller than the 2009)
TRD part number 90915-01
FRAM PH4967
FRAM TOUGHGUARD TG4967
PUROLATOR L14477 (3.52" long)
PUROLATOR PROLINE PPL14477
PUROLATOR L14476 (2.93" long)
TOYOTA 90915-03001
MOBIL M1-103
WIX 51396

spider · 07-21-2005, 06:06 PM

Some interesting read:

http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/par...ers/index.html

uclacyc · 10-18-2007, 06:15 PM

Toyota OE #90915-YZZA1 has been superseded by 90915-YZZF1. Additionally, the plug gasket 90430-12028 has been superseded by 90430-12031.

ace10 · 10-18-2007, 07:10 PM

Purolator PureOne PL14477

jlj3394 · 10-18-2007, 08:01 PM

The Mobile 209 is bigger than the 1 series. I prefer that and the PureOne that Ace10 referred to. Both of them are from reputable mfg's and seem to have excellent build quality.

PsychoRallye · 10-18-2007, 09:11 PM

Go get a Canton Mecca and never buy another oil filter ever again. Cartridges, maybe, but less often than standard filters (Every 2-3 oil changes). 8 micron, no bypass, beautiful anodized aluminum reusable filter. None of this paper crap...

uclacyc · 10-18-2007, 10:17 PM

Transonic gets his 90915-10004 for $7.99 + something like $8.95 shipping from McGeorge Parts.com.

ChrisH · 10-19-2007, 12:40 AM

I am using the Mobile 1 209 (as are many others), which is larger than the stock filter and the M1-103. I got it at my local auto parts store (Kragen). I just happened to be in Wal-Mart today and saw they had it on the shelf as well for $9.98. which was about $2 cheaper than the auto-parts store.

kortik · 10-19-2007, 07:04 AM

I love PUROLATOR PROLINE PL14477 really good filter IMO

ace10 · 10-19-2007, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ace10

Purolator PureOne PL14477

Quote:

Originally Posted by kortik

I love PUROLATOR PROLINE PL14477 really good filter IMO

same part number, different trade name? www.pureoil.com does not list the "proline" product line. perhaps it's an old brand or a non-consumer brand?

yeahiknowiam · 10-19-2007, 07:13 AM

I've always used WIX. I was recently told that WIX filters are Mobil 1's re-badged. Who knows

kortik · 10-19-2007, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ace10

same part number, different trade name? www.pureoil.com does not list the "proline" product line. perhaps it's an old brand or a non-consumer brand?

no its the same thing
I use PL14477 its the pureone filter same thing it used to be called proline but they changed it to pureone instead

UKphil · 10-19-2007, 07:24 AM

I bought a stock of TRD filters - but they are labelled 90915-SP010. $25 (ish)

Couple of FAQs you might want to answer:

Mobil 1 is labelled "Turbo Diesel" - but is fine for the Elise
There are two Fumoto valves listed (with and without nipple) - both fit.

codymac · 10-19-2007, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeahiknowiam

I've always used WIX. I was recently told that WIX filters are Mobil 1's re-badged. Who knows

WIX makes filters for a lot of companies and OEMs.

MTribe · 03-04-2008, 12:56 AM

I need to do an oil change before this weekend, and was pleased to find this thread as well as
http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elis...oilfilter.html

However, calling a couple dealers today to buy a filter resulted in confusion...

First, Boardwalk said that the lotus oil filter, part # A120 E662 775 24, was actually the Toyota 90915-YZZF1, as mentioned is post 4 above. I'm not sure how this compares to the desirable 90915-10004?

Then I called SVAG, and he said that the filter under that same part number actually said Lotus right on the filter, said lotus has been supplying their own filters for a while, and that the toyotas were just for the first couple years. Can anyone confirm that?

Anyone have a favorite filter they're running? And any of you in the bay area know where I could pick one up in person this week?

SweetDaddyD · 03-04-2008, 03:59 AM

It would not surprise me for Lotus to supply their own filter. This way it could be $49.99 and be an official lotus part (the Toyota part in a lotus box) lol.
I've seen Official Lotus fuses too. They are by littlefuse the same as any other car, but are in a Lotus bag and come with an outrageous price for people who don't know the difference.

cbfischer · 03-04-2008, 08:29 AM

As an FYI, Park Place Ltd, Lotus Dealer in Bellevue installs:

Toyota OE #90915-YZZF1

Has anyone tried Napa Gold, i usually buys these and they are made by WIX.

http://www.napaonline.com/masterpage...l+Filter+(Gold)

jlj3394 · 03-04-2008, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTribe

I need to do an oil change before this weekend, and was pleased to find this thread as well as
http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elis...oilfilter.html

However, calling a couple dealers today to buy a filter resulted in confusion...

First, Boardwalk said that the lotus oil filter, part # A120 E662 775 24, was actually the Toyota 90915-YZZF1, as mentioned is post 4 above. I'm not sure how this compares to the desirable 90915-10004?

Then I called SVAG, and he said that the filter under that same part number actually said Lotus right on the filter, said lotus has been supplying their own filters for a while, and that the toyotas were just for the first couple years. Can anyone confirm that?

Anyone have a favorite filter they're running? And any of you in the bay area know where I could pick one up in person this week?

Just go to a parts store and pick up an M1 or a Purolator Pure One. They're both high quality and readily available.

Actually pick up 2 or 3. You never know what filter your closest store will be out of on the Sat. morning that you're wanting to do your oil changes on.

jallingt · 03-04-2008, 09:59 PM

K&N HP 2009, I like the nut on the bottom. Usually find them on sale between changes.

07-14-2005, 06:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
IBCJ my name is not cliff !! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: santa monica, ca Posts: 983	Preperation for a new Oil Filter Sticky - Need Your Input... I’m looking to perform my first oil change on my Elise, and hope to make a one-stop sticky post reference for everyone here. So far I’m frustrated with what I’ve been able to track down online, and I haven’t been able to gather all the facts here on ET. If you could all help (read: correct) me with the following, I’ll submit it as a sticky in the next week or so.. Subjectively, it seems we should all stay away from the YZZA1 and YZZD1. If you want to stay OE then the 10004 is the way to go (make sure it has a red gasket!). If you want to go OE+, then the TRD (but which one – help me here guys) seems the way to go. If you want to go aftermarket, than the K&N seems to be your best bet. Here’s where I’m at so far – I’ve been able to determine that the following oil filters seem to be most common: Toyota OE #90915-YZZA1 Less than optimal filter, black gasket, black housing. ~$8 at any Toyota Parts Desk ($4 online) Toyota OE #90915-10004 Optimal, red gasket, black housing, used by most Lotus Dealers. ~$12 at some local Toyota Parts Desk. Some dealers won’t order it, some will. Keep dialing. ($8 online) Toyota OE #90915-YZZD1 Still less optimal, but slightly bigger than the YZZA1 filter, but of the same (sub par) “grade” of construction as the YZZA1. OE for Lexus IS300 motor, ~$8 at any Toyota Parts Desk ($4 online) Toyota Racing Development #00602-90915-006 USA made YZZA1 and 10004 replacement, not known to be used on an Elise yet. ~$13 online Toyota Racing Development #00642-90915-003 Japanese made YZZA1 and 10004 replacement, not known to be used on an Elise yet. ~$22 online Toyota Racing Development #90915-001 Japanese made (red housing) replacement, seems to be preferred by many eTalkers, but I cannot find much information on this filter. ~$24 online. K&N HP-2009 Optimal filter, used by many eTalkers (endorsed by Stan!), good filtration (better than the OE stuff) and good flow. ~$12 at most auto parts stores. Known filters that DO NOT work: TRD #90915-07 Informative threads and pictures: Oil Filters...Alternates...Comments It IS possible to get the right oil filter! Online Places to buy: http://www.mcgeorgeparts.com http://www.autobarn.net Thanks much to Stan and Raggedy1 – most of the above was stolen from their posts… __________________ cjlittle[dºt]com 05 Elise #113 w/ Touring, Black LSS wheels, Alpine CDA-9857, Polks all around, integrated V1, one-of-a-kind two-tone Saffron Yellow paint

07-14-2005, 10:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
MattG insert clever title here Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Living above the clouds in Colorado Posts: 7,683 Images: 11	Here is the information I've compiled on this subject from various threads here: Filter: same filter as 2004 Celica GTS. Uses a 3/4-16 thread. Lotus part number 120E6277S Toyota 90915-10004 - same as factory filter Toyota 90915-YZZA1 - similar to 10004, but different internal construction. Toyota 90915-YZZD1 (larger than the YZZA1) K&N HP-2009 K&N HP-1003 (this is smaller than the 2009) TRD part number 90915-01 FRAM PH4967 FRAM TOUGHGUARD TG4967 PUROLATOR L14477 (3.52" long) PUROLATOR PROLINE PPL14477 PUROLATOR L14476 (2.93" long) TOYOTA 90915-03001 MOBIL M1-103 WIX 51396 __________________ '05 Elise, Magnetic Blue / Biscuit / Hardtop / http://eliseinfo.com Radar detector mounting brackets for sale here

07-21-2005, 06:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
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10-18-2007, 06:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
uclacyc Has a skinny fetish Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NorCal Posts: 962 Images: 25	Toyota OE #90915-YZZA1 has been superseded by 90915-YZZF1. Additionally, the plug gasket 90430-12028 has been superseded by 90430-12031. __________________ 2006 Solar Yellow Elise: clam protection, Multivex Mirror+mod, Center Brake Light Pulser, rear window shield, Von Hep Exhaust (twingle), Al trim ring, S111 Carpet Buttons & CF Center Console & Lidbone, toll mount, tray mod, brake light adj, headlight adj, raised letters, stealth bulb, CF interior, blk LSS, de-snorkel+v.tunnel, painted cover? & caliper? ║ Forza 2 w/ Wheel & ButtKicker, CA Car Cover (less $: Covercraft Evo 4), CDI torque wrench, ProperAutoCare, Zaino, gas bib, stub tool, Etymotics

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jlj3394 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 861	The Mobile 209 is bigger than the 1 series. I prefer that and the PureOne that Ace10 referred to. Both of them are from reputable mfg's and seem to have excellent build quality. __________________ 05 GG Elise: Exige clam, LSS, Stage 2, ACT HD, DBA5000, CF scoops/splitter/mirrors/panels Others: Lex ES300Coach, Volvo V70R 300hp/260k Missed:01&04 Wranglers, 71 CJ5(225V6) Need a Johnson County or Kansas City personal injury/wrongful death attorney/lawyer/law firm?http://www.kcatty.com Looking for a Johnson County, KS DUI lawyer/attorney? http://www.JohnsonCountyDUI.com Need a Johnson County, KS lawyer/attorney to help amend or fix a speeding/traffic ticket? http://www.JoCoTraffic.com

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PsychoRallye 05 Mag Blue LSS/HT Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wherever you go, there you are. Posts: 800	Go get a Canton Mecca and never buy another oil filter ever again. Cartridges, maybe, but less often than standard filters (Every 2-3 oil changes). 8 micron, no bypass, beautiful anodized aluminum reusable filter. None of this paper crap... __________________ "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

10-18-2007, 10:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
uclacyc Has a skinny fetish Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NorCal Posts: 962 Images: 25	Transonic gets his 90915-10004 for $7.99 + something like $8.95 shipping from McGeorge Parts.com. __________________ 2006 Solar Yellow Elise: clam protection, Multivex Mirror+mod, Center Brake Light Pulser, rear window shield, Von Hep Exhaust (twingle), Al trim ring, S111 Carpet Buttons & CF Center Console & Lidbone, toll mount, tray mod, brake light adj, headlight adj, raised letters, stealth bulb, CF interior, blk LSS, de-snorkel+v.tunnel, painted cover? & caliper? ║ Forza 2 w/ Wheel & ButtKicker, CA Car Cover (less $: Covercraft Evo 4), CDI torque wrench, ProperAutoCare, Zaino, gas bib, stub tool, Etymotics

10-19-2007, 12:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
ChrisH Mountain Road Nut Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ramona,CA Posts: 2,320	I am using the Mobile 1 209 (as are many others), which is larger than the stock filter and the M1-103. I got it at my local auto parts store (Kragen). I just happened to be in Wal-Mart today and saw they had it on the shelf as well for $9.98. which was about $2 cheaper than the auto-parts store.

10-19-2007, 07:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
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10-19-2007, 07:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
yeahiknowiam call me robbie. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,135 Images: 16	I've always used WIX. I was recently told that WIX filters are Mobil 1's re-badged. Who knows __________________ '06 Exige - Aspen White [sold] and living like no one else!

10-19-2007, 07:24 AM	#14 (permalink)
UKphil former contributor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 1,046 Images: 79	I bought a stock of TRD filters - but they are labelled 90915-SP010. $25 (ish) Couple of FAQs you might want to answer: Mobil 1 is labelled "Turbo Diesel" - but is fine for the Elise There are two Fumoto valves listed (with and without nipple) - both fit. __________________ '06 LRG Elise...

03-04-2008, 12:56 AM	#16 (permalink)
MTribe Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 311	I need to do an oil change before this weekend, and was pleased to find this thread as well as http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elis...oilfilter.html However, calling a couple dealers today to buy a filter resulted in confusion... First, Boardwalk said that the lotus oil filter, part # A120 E662 775 24, was actually the Toyota 90915-YZZF1, as mentioned is post 4 above. I'm not sure how this compares to the desirable 90915-10004? Then I called SVAG, and he said that the filter under that same part number actually said Lotus right on the filter, said lotus has been supplying their own filters for a while, and that the toyotas were just for the first couple years. Can anyone confirm that? Anyone have a favorite filter they're running? And any of you in the bay area know where I could pick one up in person this week?

03-04-2008, 03:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
SweetDaddyD BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 7,646 Images: 2	It would not surprise me for Lotus to supply their own filter. This way it could be $49.99 and be an official lotus part (the Toyota part in a lotus box) lol. I've seen Official Lotus fuses too. They are by littlefuse the same as any other car, but are in a Lotus bag and come with an outrageous price for people who don't know the difference.

03-04-2008, 08:29 AM	#18 (permalink)
cbfischer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 93	Dealer installed Oil Filter As an FYI, Park Place Ltd, Lotus Dealer in Bellevue installs: Toyota OE #90915-YZZF1 Has anyone tried Napa Gold, i usually buys these and they are made by WIX. http://www.napaonline.com/masterpage...l+Filter+(Gold) __________________ 2006 Elise, LSS - Seattle, WA

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