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Clovis · 11-06-2009, 06:23 AM

Jer, no feeling of failure needed. This is NOT any easy job the first time around. I'm thinking about a new diff over teh off season and I am dreading the though of pulling the tranny again.

Regarding the first pic, I don't remember that being much of an issue. Have you seperated the axle from the hub carrier yet so that it has a a place to slide to the right? The axle should slide out of the tranny easily (no retainer clip on the RH side).

The second pic, LD side, that clip for me was a beeotch to get out. The dust sheild is flimsy and won't work. You need to get some leverage on the green part you talked about. I ended up making a wood block shaped like the green part and used 3 or 4 hose clamps to secure to the axle. That gave me a place to put my pry bar on. BTW, I used about a 2' pry bar the first time

LordZ · 11-06-2009, 06:40 AM

Why is everyone so dead set on not using the proper tools for the job? These make it a piece of cake. I'm talking 30 seconds to remove the axles...

Clovis · 11-06-2009, 07:10 AM

LordZ - Thanks for the heads up. For sure will be getting the FWD axle puller.

LordZ · 11-06-2009, 07:16 AM

30 seconds! It's a free rental from Autozone, that and the slide hammer. Having pulled the tranny 3 times in two weeks I learned all the shortcuts.

Clovis · 11-06-2009, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LordZ

30 seconds! It's a free rental from Autozone, that and the slide hammer. Having pulled the tranny 3 times in two weeks I learned all the shortcuts.

Very cool. Feel free to post all of those short cuts!

Surferjer · 11-06-2009, 08:37 AM

I can go get that tool I assume, but how do you put it on that axle? There's no real room to work with it on the LH side. Picture?

Surferjer · 11-06-2009, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis

Regarding the first pic, I don't remember that being much of an issue. Have you seperated the axle from the hub carrier yet so that it has a a place to slide to the right? The axle should slide out of the tranny easily (no retainer clip on the RH side).

I think mine is seized. A little PB blaster in between those plates would probably help. Yes, the axle is not free of the hub but the hub is free and there's lots of room for the axle to move out of the transmission. That is not the problem. I wonder if the factory equipped LSD trannies have a keeper on each side...

AZReason · 11-06-2009, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surferjer

I can go get that tool I assume, but how do you put it on that axle? There's no real room to work with it on the LH side. Picture?

Just to make sure, the left (driver's) side is out and the right (passenger's) side is stuck. If this is the case, could you remove the bolts that attach the bearing support to the engine?

LordZ · 11-06-2009, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surferjer

I can go get that tool I assume, but how do you put it on that axle? There's no real room to work with it on the LH side. Picture?

The "fork" screws onto the end of the slide hammer. You then put the fork around the green section of the axle and slide the weighted portion of the hammer towards the axle, and then towards the outside of the car to "hammer" the axle horizontally out.

The first time I did it took a few hits as it was wedged in there or rusted pretty good. I did hit it with PB blaster a few times too though.

Surferjer · 11-06-2009, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZReason

Just to make sure, the left (driver's) side is out and the right (passenger's) side is stuck. If this is the case, could you remove the bolts that attach the bearing support to the engine?

Both are stuck. I removed the bolts to the bearing support on the passenger side, but the plates appear to be stuck together HARD. I will hit that with PB Blaster, and if that doesn't work, a hammer.

The driver's side, well, I will try to get the tools you mention from Autozone.

Dunno if this is a factor, but my LSD is destroyed and chunks are in the wrong place. This could be contributing to my issues, dunno. In fact it may be possible the axle is torn up too. I will know once i get them out.

AZReason · 11-06-2009, 02:35 PM

The FWD axle puller in the picture from Autozone needs to be ground down a little to fit. The slot is a tiny bit too small.

Good luck.

LordZ · 11-06-2009, 06:49 PM

maybe mine was well used.

It fit with a little wiggle, ended up renting it one from two different autozones as well, both were the same on mine. ymmv

Surferjer · 11-12-2009, 06:34 PM

Good progress tonight! I got the axles out, the a-arm off, wheel liner pulled, airbox out. then I ran out of gas, but the rest should come with time and effort. Thank god on the axles, both were equally hard. I know the passenger should be easy, but I had to drive wedges between the axle bracket and the bearing support bracket to break it free.

I think from here forward I'm looking a couiple hours to drop the trans.

Surferjer · 11-15-2009, 12:09 PM

4 hours to drop the trans, but it is out. finally. Taking out all three motor mounts was critical, once they were out it was straightforward. whew. Now to see how hard it will be to swap bellhousings or repair the donor trans broken holders. Oh, and get the clutch.

choi0706 · 11-15-2009, 08:32 PM

broken holders?

Surferjer · 11-16-2009, 04:02 AM

The donor trans had the rear motor mount female bolt holders broken out of the metal. When they took out the motor/trans from the wrecked car, they left it all hanging by the rear motor mount which couldn't take the weight. I have two options-get it rerpaired or swap bellhousings. Given that the diff sits in the bellhousing, that's probably not as easy as it sounds.

Surferjer · 11-16-2009, 08:52 AM

Eh, I'm going to have a tranny shop swap bellhousings. They won't charge much and it's not something I'm really excited about doing (cracking the case). I should be able to start the re-install later this week.

11-06-2009, 06:40 AM	#82 (permalink)
LordZ 06 S280 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,307	Why is everyone so dead set on not using the proper tools for the job? These make it a piece of cake. I'm talking 30 seconds to remove the axles... Attached Images

11-06-2009, 08:37 AM	#86 (permalink)
Surferjer No more cone damage! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exton, PA Posts: 8,885	I can go get that tool I assume, but how do you put it on that axle? There's no real room to work with it on the LH side. Picture? __________________ Jer-2005 Elise (retired from autox) 1993 MR2 autox car 2002 Ford Excursion DIESEL 4 X 4 1993 Miata (throwout bearing or clutch failure) 1987 Toyota Corolla FX16 Lemons car (needs new head) 1984 Chevy Citation Lemons car (needs a motor)

11-06-2009, 02:35 PM	#91 (permalink)
AZReason Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 440	The FWD axle puller in the picture from Autozone needs to be ground down a little to fit. The slot is a tiny bit too small. Good luck. __________________ Hoosier tires won in 2009: 11 so far Thank you Hoosier and NASA!

11-12-2009, 06:34 PM	#93 (permalink)
Surferjer No more cone damage! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exton, PA Posts: 8,885	Good progress tonight! I got the axles out, the a-arm off, wheel liner pulled, airbox out. then I ran out of gas, but the rest should come with time and effort. Thank god on the axles, both were equally hard. I know the passenger should be easy, but I had to drive wedges between the axle bracket and the bearing support bracket to break it free. I think from here forward I'm looking a couiple hours to drop the trans. __________________ Jer-2005 Elise (retired from autox) 1993 MR2 autox car 2002 Ford Excursion DIESEL 4 X 4 1993 Miata (throwout bearing or clutch failure) 1987 Toyota Corolla FX16 Lemons car (needs new head) 1984 Chevy Citation Lemons car (needs a motor)

11-15-2009, 12:09 PM	#94 (permalink)
Surferjer No more cone damage! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exton, PA Posts: 8,885	4 hours to drop the trans, but it is out. finally. Taking out all three motor mounts was critical, once they were out it was straightforward. whew. Now to see how hard it will be to swap bellhousings or repair the donor trans broken holders. Oh, and get the clutch. __________________ Jer-2005 Elise (retired from autox) 1993 MR2 autox car 2002 Ford Excursion DIESEL 4 X 4 1993 Miata (throwout bearing or clutch failure) 1987 Toyota Corolla FX16 Lemons car (needs new head) 1984 Chevy Citation Lemons car (needs a motor)

11-06-2009, 06:23 AM	#81 (permalink)
Clovis Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 296 Images: 14	Jer, no feeling of failure needed. This is NOT any easy job the first time around. I'm thinking about a new diff over teh off season and I am dreading the though of pulling the tranny again. Regarding the first pic, I don't remember that being much of an issue. Have you seperated the axle from the hub carrier yet so that it has a a place to slide to the right? The axle should slide out of the tranny easily (no retainer clip on the RH side). The second pic, LD side, that clip for me was a beeotch to get out. The dust sheild is flimsy and won't work. You need to get some leverage on the green part you talked about. I ended up making a wood block shaped like the green part and used 3 or 4 hose clamps to secure to the axle. That gave me a place to put my pry bar on. BTW, I used about a 2' pry bar the first time

11-06-2009, 07:10 AM	#83 (permalink)
Clovis Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 296 Images: 14	LordZ - Thanks for the heads up. For sure will be getting the FWD axle puller.

11-06-2009, 07:16 AM	#84 (permalink)
LordZ 06 S280 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,307	30 seconds! It's a free rental from Autozone, that and the slide hammer. Having pulled the tranny 3 times in two weeks I learned all the shortcuts.

11-06-2009, 06:49 PM	#92 (permalink)
LordZ 06 S280 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,307	maybe mine was well used. It fit with a little wiggle, ended up renting it one from two different autozones as well, both were the same on mine. ymmv

11-15-2009, 08:32 PM	#95 (permalink)
choi0706 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Posts: 4,228	broken holders? __________________ Jay-05' ST, HT, Touring Red Rally Ready

11-16-2009, 04:02 AM	#96 (permalink)
Surferjer No more cone damage! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exton, PA Posts: 8,885	The donor trans had the rear motor mount female bolt holders broken out of the metal. When they took out the motor/trans from the wrecked car, they left it all hanging by the rear motor mount which couldn't take the weight. I have two options-get it rerpaired or swap bellhousings. Given that the diff sits in the bellhousing, that's probably not as easy as it sounds. __________________ Jer-2005 Elise (retired from autox) 1993 MR2 autox car 2002 Ford Excursion DIESEL 4 X 4 1993 Miata (throwout bearing or clutch failure) 1987 Toyota Corolla FX16 Lemons car (needs new head) 1984 Chevy Citation Lemons car (needs a motor)

11-16-2009, 08:52 AM	#97 (permalink)
Surferjer No more cone damage! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Exton, PA Posts: 8,885	Eh, I'm going to have a tranny shop swap bellhousings. They won't charge much and it's not something I'm really excited about doing (cracking the case). I should be able to start the re-install later this week. __________________ Jer-2005 Elise (retired from autox) 1993 MR2 autox car 2002 Ford Excursion DIESEL 4 X 4 1993 Miata (throwout bearing or clutch failure) 1987 Toyota Corolla FX16 Lemons car (needs new head) 1984 Chevy Citation Lemons car (needs a motor)

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