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Help, brought a used lotus elise with no key fob

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I recently brought a lotus elise from a dealership but they don't have the key fob for it, how would one be able to get a key fob for a 2005 lotus elise?

According to the manual it said I need the PIN and passcode from another fob, but I dont have another fob, how do I go about getting a new fob for the car so I can lock/unlock my car?

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You should be able to purchase the fob from your local Lotus dealer...

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They should also be able to provide you the alarm PIN. Since you bought the car from them, they should not have an issue giving you that information.

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You should consider a fob free life. Between an immobilizer with a mind of its own, and electric locks that would randomly not unlock, I opted for the simpler life and removed the alarm.

There are quite a few posts with info on resetiting and re-linking a fob.

Good luck!
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You should consider a fob free life. Between an immobilizer with a mind of its own, and electric locks that would randomly not unlock, I opted for the simpler life and removed the alarm.

There are quite a few posts with info on resetiting and re-linking a fob.

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that is one thing I don't understand with the car at the moment, how do I unlock the car if the electric lock was locked? as it appear that the mechanical key can not open the lock inside......
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that is one thing I don't understand with the car at the moment, how do I unlock the car if the electric lock was locked? as it appear that the mechanical key can not open the lock inside......
Exactly! One of the myriad of issues with the fob and alarm. For some reason known only to Lotus, the electronic lock and the key lock are entirely seperate and not related. One cannot lock or unlock the other. Very odd design.

If I need to lock, I just use the key.
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that is one thing I don't understand with the car at the moment, how do I unlock the car if the electric lock was locked? as it appear that the mechanical key can not open the lock inside......
I learned this the hard way hundreds of miles from home. There are actually two locking systems in the Elise, one mechanical and one electronic. If you lock with the key, you must unlock with the key and the same goes for the electronic locks.
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Exactly! One of the myriad of issues with the fob and alarm. For some reason known only to Lotus, the electronic lock and the key lock are entirely seperate and not related. One cannot lock or unlock the other. Very odd design.

If I need to lock, I just use the key.
I hope that engineer is fired
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Just as a heads up David, look for a fob with the electronics in it on Ebay. I was able to replace my lost second one from a guy in Germany for $70 brand new a couple years ago. Try to avoid the dealer price if you can.

Oh look....he is still selling them!

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I would ask the dealership to take care of this for you.
How can they even sell a car without a way to unlock or start it???
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I would ask the dealership to take care of this for you.
How can they even sell a car without a way to unlock or start it???
I gave them hell this morning, I'm expecting a call back from the dealer also, was not happy with them
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Ah! So you don't even have one fob? How did you get the car home and able to start it? I bet the previous owner disabled the alarm/mobilizer.
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How do I steal a car, you know, one of those fancy Lotus cars with the special alarm?
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Ah! So you don't even have one fob? How did you get the car home and able to start it?
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Pretty positive his car's alarm/immobilizer has been completely disabled. Even with a new fob he will have to figure out how to put it back to stock - if he wants to go that route.

David, there are several threads on here about defeating the alarm with the local resident electric guru Sir Lotus that you can reverse engineer. Might want to start looking at those threads. Hopefully your dealer you bought from can do all of this for you though or they could just wash their hands of it and say "hey we got the car this way".

If the previous owner did disable and not completely remove the system (most unlikely)....it's a pretty easy task to plug everything back in. There is a connector behind the driver seat (behind the trim where the immobilizer is) and another in the dash access on the passenger side where the alarm module sits.

You'll find a lot of folks don't like the silly alarms on these cars and they disable them.

EDIT: Of course have your fob first!
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David,

If you're going to go to the effort of reviving the (horrible) OEM alarm, do yourself a favor by ripping it out and installing a new (better) Viper (or whatever) alarm system. It's not much more work and worth it.

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David,

If you're going to go to the effort of reviving the (horrible) OEM alarm, do yourself a favor by ripping it out and installing a new (better) Viper (or whatever) alarm system. It's not much more work and worth it.
Actually, on the good news, the dealership I got the car from said since they don't have the fob either, they'll have to replace the alarm module completely, so for the time being they had agree to replace it for free, a small victory for me
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