Just drove Boe 300 TVS - LotusTalk

Ked67madison · 02-14-2013, 02:45 PM

I met a guy at our cars an coffee this past Saturday.. He had a Boe 300 tvs.. I told him I also was considering this same set up.. He called me today to say he was going to have his car in the shop for a couple of weeks, for the oil line repair.. Any who, he said if I wanted to drive it b4 he sent it in.. The power was awesome.. Not to much but then not to little.. The bad, I dnt want to drive my car anymore.. I really want this set up now

Elige · 02-14-2013, 02:49 PM

Do you have an S/C on your car now?

addertooth · 02-14-2013, 03:06 PM

For those who do not have a supercharged car, do not drive a supercharged car. You will feel vaguely dissatisfied with your NA car for quite a while afterward.
For those who upgrade to a supercharger, the chase has begun; you will feel the desire for more hp as the months and years roll past.

Ked67madison · 02-14-2013, 03:53 PM

I have a na 05 elise

evilfij · 02-14-2013, 07:32 PM

I kind of liked the NA. The supercharger just makes it too easy to drive.

dspecgsx · 02-15-2013, 05:35 AM

I installed a BOE 300 TVS over my Thanksgiving break. Easy install and yes, this is how the car should be. Nice power delivery. Very fun.

komiko · 02-16-2013, 03:19 AM

the n/a car is cool, and looks very fast. The BOE cars look very cool and ARE very fast.

birkinboy · 02-16-2013, 03:50 AM

Forgotten what my non-S/C Elise was like, pretty wimpy I recall. S111's Katana 265 made it the car it should have been from the start. But......more HP would be good. Quite satisfied now though.

MadisonArt · 02-16-2013, 04:46 PM

BOE is over in Kansas right? I thought about driving that way for a little road trip this summer just to check out their shop. I wonder if they have any Elise's sitting around with their superchargers? I'd love to experience a drive with a SC.

TheChazz · 02-16-2013, 05:14 PM

Think that was bad? I went from my NA 05 Elise to darkSol's 365+WHP (IIRC) Rev400 Elise.

Night and Day. Still plan to boost mine if I keep it.

ADLGTNS · 02-17-2013, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by komiko

the n/a car is cool, and looks very fast. The BOE cars look very cool and ARE very fast.

It is very easy to have a warped perspective when you have driven some very fast cars. The NA car can still pull the panties down on 99% of the cars out there on the road. I would say the NA car is "fast" (4-5 seconds @ 0-60). Any 6-7 second car is "quick" Any 3-4 second car "very fast". And sub 3 is just tunnel vision fast. I have had the pleasure to drive some sub 3 seconds cars and it does make fast/quick cars seam "slow".

brgelise · 02-17-2013, 12:18 PM

Did it go boom? Both folks I know that went the TVS route have had MAJOR issues while the MP62 crowd just pounds out the miles. Just my observations

addertooth · 02-17-2013, 03:59 PM

MP62's don't have the spotless record you imagine. Most people don't whine when the supercharger dies, they just get another.

Ked67madison · 02-17-2013, 04:20 PM

I haven't heard any bad things about the tvs

brgelise · 02-17-2013, 04:29 PM

TVS is not an ideal fit for the 2ZZ. Do some homework. Besoides it is pretty well documented that putting more than ~265HP thru stock tranny terminates that pretty quickly as well.

Ked67madison · 02-17-2013, 05:30 PM

I've looked cant find anything, links?

turbophil · 02-17-2013, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brgelise

TVS is not an ideal fit for the 2ZZ.

I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but that's not correct at all. There are literally hundreds of TVS cars on the road. Yes, you will eventually have motor problems with enough of them out there, especially those mated to to standalone ECUs where the end user has the ability to play with the tune. The flashed cars are all very conservative and proven. I have replaced many many motors for cars running Katana kits, but that doesn't mean the blower is wrong for the car.... Once there's enough of anything, you'll eventually start having circumstantial issues....

As for volumetric efficiency and correct sizing, the TVS 1320 is MUCH better suited for a free breathing 2ZZ than the small MP62. Use a compressor chart and map out the blowers. The MP62 is way over spun for this motor. It's been shown in depth on this forum. There's no need to rehash a thread that had fully vetted all this YEARS ago....

Cheers,

Phil

Ked67madison · 02-17-2013, 07:06 PM

Phil I loved the tvs.. I only have 3000 right now

cashxdr · 02-17-2013, 07:56 PM

I am so used to my VF2 that I drove my girlfriends N/A 2006 Elise and just disappointing.

Yes, good power corrupts absolutely...

ADLGTNS · 02-17-2013, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashxdr

I am so used to my VF2 that I drove my girlfriends N/A 2006 Elise and just disappointing.

Yes, good power corrupts absolutely...

and yes, poor you, your girlfriend has an Elise.

02-14-2013, 02:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ked67madison 05 Elise Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Atx Posts: 463	Just drove Boe 300 TVS I met a guy at our cars an coffee this past Saturday.. He had a Boe 300 tvs.. I told him I also was considering this same set up.. He called me today to say he was going to have his car in the shop for a couple of weeks, for the oil line repair.. Any who, he said if I wanted to drive it b4 he sent it in.. The power was awesome.. Not to much but then not to little.. The bad, I dnt want to drive my car anymore.. I really want this set up now

02-14-2013, 02:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Elige Addicted Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: El Ayy Posts: 1,455	Do you have an S/C on your car now? __________________ 05 graphite grey elige with zero mods.

02-14-2013, 03:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
addertooth Painful Novice Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,989	For those who do not have a supercharged car, do not drive a supercharged car. You will feel vaguely dissatisfied with your NA car for quite a while afterward. For those who upgrade to a supercharger, the chase has begun; you will feel the desire for more hp as the months and years roll past. __________________ Storm titanium 2005 Elise with carbon fiber spoiler, BWR sway bar, BOE toe links, gPan2, LidBone, sector 111 wheel studs, Grey RAC Monolite wheels with toyo R1R, Team Dynamics 1.4 with Hoosier A6/R6s, Katana2 Supercharger, ECU with 265 flash. PPE headers w/decat, CEL angle eliminator, Silent touch catback, Rear Panel Eliminator, HKS intake, V2 fuel tank, Walbro255 fuel pump. HID lights.

02-14-2013, 07:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
evilfij Land Rover Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Main Line PA Posts: 1,182	I kind of liked the NA. The supercharger just makes it too easy to drive. __________________ 2006 Autumn Gold Elise Lily RIP-rebirth by newowner 2007 Exige S Phantom Black Type 72D Trim Goldilocks

02-16-2013, 03:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
komiko Gamera -The Atomic Turtle Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 2,064	the n/a car is cool, and looks very fast. The BOE cars look very cool and ARE very fast. __________________ Lotus Elise #134 - June/2004 build date - BOE REV400 installed on stock motor w/stock cat/mani 336.4bhp, passes all 50 states emissions/OBD, BOE ST exhaust, ACT HDSS, BOE Clam Hinge, etc. 0-60 = under 4 seconds. Build thread : http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f160...seline-114302/

02-14-2013, 03:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ked67madison 05 Elise Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Atx Posts: 463	I have a na 05 elise

02-15-2013, 05:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
dspecgsx Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 30	I installed a BOE 300 TVS over my Thanksgiving break. Easy install and yes, this is how the car should be. Nice power delivery. Very fun.

02-16-2013, 03:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
birkinboy birkinboy Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: danvers mass Posts: 40	Forgotten what my non-S/C Elise was like, pretty wimpy I recall. S111's Katana 265 made it the car it should have been from the start. But......more HP would be good. Quite satisfied now though.

02-16-2013, 04:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
MadisonArt Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bloomington IL Posts: 339	BOE is over in Kansas right? I thought about driving that way for a little road trip this summer just to check out their shop. I wonder if they have any Elise's sitting around with their superchargers? I'd love to experience a drive with a SC. __________________ 2006 MRG Lotus Elise: Sport Pack, Touring Pack, 111-Arqray Twin Exhaust, Re-Upholstered Interior, Imagine Audio & Alpine CDE-136BT Stereo, C. Risen Interior & Engine Trim, JBL-Sub, Visor Delete, 111-Micro Mirror. 111-Suspension Refresh Kit. http://www.madison-art.com & https://www.facebook.com/MadisonArt

02-17-2013, 12:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
brgelise Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 2,500 Images: 9	Did it go boom? Both folks I know that went the TVS route have had MAJOR issues while the MP62 crowd just pounds out the miles. Just my observations __________________ 04 Skip Barber Race School, Competition certificate 04 Jaguar XJ Vandan Plas Radiance Red Ivory leather 08 Isuzu Ascender Lux Flint Grey, Grey leather 10 Lotus Evora Persian Blue, Charcoal w/Ivory header 11 BMW Xdrive35d, Vermillion Red w/Cinnamon Brown 2005 Elise gone but never forgotten as it taught me to drive quickly!

02-17-2013, 03:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
addertooth Painful Novice Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,989	MP62's don't have the spotless record you imagine. Most people don't whine when the supercharger dies, they just get another. __________________ Storm titanium 2005 Elise with carbon fiber spoiler, BWR sway bar, BOE toe links, gPan2, LidBone, sector 111 wheel studs, Grey RAC Monolite wheels with toyo R1R, Team Dynamics 1.4 with Hoosier A6/R6s, Katana2 Supercharger, ECU with 265 flash. PPE headers w/decat, CEL angle eliminator, Silent touch catback, Rear Panel Eliminator, HKS intake, V2 fuel tank, Walbro255 fuel pump. HID lights.

02-17-2013, 04:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ked67madison 05 Elise Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Atx Posts: 463	I haven't heard any bad things about the tvs

02-17-2013, 04:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
brgelise Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 2,500 Images: 9	TVS is not an ideal fit for the 2ZZ. Do some homework. Besoides it is pretty well documented that putting more than ~265HP thru stock tranny terminates that pretty quickly as well. __________________ 04 Skip Barber Race School, Competition certificate 04 Jaguar XJ Vandan Plas Radiance Red Ivory leather 08 Isuzu Ascender Lux Flint Grey, Grey leather 10 Lotus Evora Persian Blue, Charcoal w/Ivory header 11 BMW Xdrive35d, Vermillion Red w/Cinnamon Brown 2005 Elise gone but never forgotten as it taught me to drive quickly!

02-17-2013, 05:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
Ked67madison 05 Elise Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Atx Posts: 463	I've looked cant find anything, links?

02-17-2013, 07:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ked67madison 05 Elise Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Atx Posts: 463	Phil I loved the tvs.. I only have 3000 right now

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cashxdr The Dragon... Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago burb's Posts: 955	I am so used to my VF2 that I drove my girlfriends N/A 2006 Elise and just disappointing. Yes, good power corrupts absolutely...

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