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Old 04-03-2012, 02:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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on fri had my taste of hose fitting problem-on garden state parkway in sj traveling with traffic about 75mph -oil light appeared immediately slowed down to pull off road car shut down coasted off road engine temp showed 189 before shut down heard slight noise from engine before shut down traveled no farther than 1/4 mile after oil light came on dipstick showed zero oil right side of car completely sprayed in oil from below pass. window puddle of oil just in front of rt tire with tire & wheel totally soaked in oil flat bedded car to lotus dealer inprinceton[hopewell] now waiting for them to look at it then give me a call on their accessment i guess i should feel lucky that i didnt have a accident in the heavy traffic & was in the righthand lane
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That stinks!
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Hopefully, your engine is OK. Oil starvation does not take long to stress the engine.
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on fri had my taste of hose fitting problem-on garden state parkway in sj traveling with traffic about 75mph -oil light appeared immediately slowed down to pull off road car shut down coasted off road engine temp showed 189 before shut down heard slight noise from engine before shut down traveled no farther than 1/4 mile after oil light came on dipstick showed zero oil right side of car completely sprayed in oil from below pass. window puddle of oil just in front of rt tire with tire & wheel totally soaked in oil flat bedded car to lotus dealer inprinceton[hopewell] now waiting for them to look at it then give me a call on their accessment i guess i should feel lucky that i didnt have a accident in the heavy traffic & was in the righthand lane
I had the same thing happen to my 2005 Elise (13,000 miles)about one year ago. I only have one oil cooler on the driverside of my Elise. On my car the oil light did not come on. I paid my dealer to replace the oil lines and cooler. I did send some of my oil that was still in the sump, to "Blackstone Labortories" in Fort Wayne IN. They analyzed my oil and said it did not show any thing out of the ordinary. I had just had the car at the dealer for a major service, only 10 miles before the oil line burst at the fitting for the oil cooler. I also had the Lotus tech clean the front and underside of my car while the clam was off the car.

Lotus has sent out a letter a few months ago about an Oil line recall. So you should not have to pay for the repair.
After I got my car back, the motor is running ok. I did check on the price of a new motor from Lotus, it is around $14,000! With the recall you should be OK, after it is all said and done.
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they may have to buy you an engine. It is likely you are covered now that the recall has been announced. They have bought other Elise owners engines I believe. Hope it's not necesscary - glad you are safe, and here's hoping you are back on the road again soon. I have less than 30 days until my oil cooler gets "relocated" to the engine bay, and new short oil lines w/reliable connectors are installed.. I can sleep then. Until then, I'm taking it easy on the motor.
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05 elise chrome orange 34k owned 1yr 2nd owner had 26k when bought - just want to drive it all the time -when ever it's not raining -own a boxster that is crying for attention thats a black beauty but now feels too cushy lol - also own a 79 MGB in orange that has just had a engine out for a rebuild on clutch that runs great
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I had the same thing happen to my 2005 Elise about one year ago. I only have one oil cooler on the driverside of my Elise. On my car the oil light did not come on. I paid my dealer to replace the oil lines and cooler. I did send some of my oil that was still in the sump, to "Blackstone Labortories" in Fort Wayne IN. They analyzed my oil and said it did not show any thing out of the ordinary. I had just had the car at the dealer for a major service, only 10 miles before the oil line burst at the fitting for the oil cooler. I also had the Lotus tech clean the front and underside of my car while the clam was off the car.

Lotus has sent out a letter a few months ago about an Oil line recall. So you should not have to pay for the repair.
After I got my car back, the motor is running ok. I did check on the price of a new motor from Lotus, it is around $14,000! With the recall you should be OK, after it is all said and done.
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i also have a single oil cooler although never really thought to look at it through the left fin duct -have read of a complete system beingreplaced on this site by one party from new york with the dealer/customer invoice shown but find that too good to be true & installing a second cooler - but can't be sure if that was at customer request -& I would think lotus would not pick up tab on 2nd cooler - if engine is fouled that might be a fight with lotus [new owners] to pick that up also-though on face one problem led to the other [ might depend on how public sensitive they are going forward ]
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i also have a single oil cooler although never really thought to look at it through the left fin duct -have read of a complete system beingreplaced on this site by one party from new york with the dealer/customer invoice shown but find that too good to be true & installing a second cooler - but can't be sure if that was at customer request -& I would think lotus would not pick up tab on 2nd cooler - if engine is fouled that might be a fight with lotus [new owners] to pick that up also-though on face one problem led to the other [ might depend on how public sensitive they are going forward ]
My dealer asked me if would like to add the second oil cooler when they replace my bad one. I think the amount with parts was about $500. I decided to pass, since I don't track my Elise.
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ron,that clears up some info adding afree 2nd cooler & makes since, I dont know at this point if cooler is bad just guessing hose fitting failed -& feel they would replace as such - whether just the failed one or replace all fittings which might be 6 even with 1 cooler & whether they also replace all hoses plus fittings or just the 1 hose & fittings on both sides of hose connection - my gut tells me the one but i dont know yet it may take a week for them to even look at car since they said their jammed up -then theres the brakes saturated in oil plus tire & how they will access that situation - should i go on ?
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hi i feel stupid but how could i start a new thread to find out who made have needed a new engine & lotus picked up the tab my car is not under warranty its a 05 elise - suggestions ? work at borgata casino in atl city nj and hav to leave for work now but will check back when i get home 5am if you can help thanks alot
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File a complaint with the NATIONAL TRAFFIC SAFTEY ADMINISTRATION , 888 327 4236 , complaints add up re the the entire oil line problem . Your oil seal could also leak later for an added fee of about 700.00 , make sure they change the oil plate seal located at the filter.
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Warranty won't matter. If the motor was damaged as a result of the failure - you should be fine.
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ron,that clears up some info adding afree 2nd cooler & makes since, I dont know at this point if cooler is bad just guessing hose fitting failed -& feel they would replace as such - whether just the failed one or replace all fittings which might be 6 even with 1 cooler & whether they also replace all hoses plus fittings or just the 1 hose & fittings on both sides of hose connection - my gut tells me the one but i dont know yet it may take a week for them to even look at car since they said their jammed up -then theres the brakes saturated in oil plus tire & how they will access that situation - should i go on ?
I'm thinking it makes sense to give the shop a little credit - make a list of your concerns as you see them, and communicate. These guys/gals are most likely very pro, and should take care of you. Trust but verify? Was that Regan?
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Ron, oil analysis was a good idea.

Midlife,

1. Are you having > 1 crisis?

2. Given that fitting failure can be dangerous to you or others spinning in your oil, it makes no sense to have only to offending fitting changed.

3. Brake pads on that corner are toast.
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[QUOTE=glb;1717172]2. Given that fitting failure can be dangerous to you or others spinning in your oil, it makes no sense to have only to offending fitting changed.
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I was assuming after this failure Lotus would automatically do the entire loop, wouldn't that be the correct path?
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Komiko,I favor thinking the best of people & perfer dealing with people in a common sense rational way & without having to fight for what should be the right thing to do
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glb, my ex accused me of having a mid-life-crises when i started buying the cars i now have
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Komiko, making a list of concerns is an excellent suggestion & will be my first priority - with also trying to educate myself with everything that could possibly be now or down the road including the engine, brakes, a thorough cleaning with the clam shell off for starters - seals i hadn't even thought of - thank you
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glb, my ex accused me of having a mid-life-crises when i started buying the cars i now have
There's a lot of that around.

Altho, some of us have had sports cars since teenage years. Therefore, something else is wrong with us.

Crisis, iirc, is singular, crises is plural.

Quick, have another crisis.
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There's a lot of that around.

Altho, some of us have had sports cars since teenage years. Therefore, something else is wrong with us.

Crisis, iirc, is singular, crises is plural.

Quick, have another crisis.
admit i'm a average at best speller lol - earlier yrs owned a 73 240z loved that car wish i still owned it & a 80 rx7 which also was alot of fun to drive then i got married & moved into station wagons & vans to carry the kids ,the groceries, the play pen ,the diapers & the dog
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