Another reason to NOT leave the Lotus unattended - LotusTalk

ItsThaMonsta · 07-02-2009, 05:38 PM

Its always a lot of people (owners included) that say its just a car blah blah blah. Well this actually happened about a couple months ago. I was in Daytona and stopped at this place. I parked up front by the door. Coincidently, another lotus (looked orange like mine but i think it was really yellow) came to the same place. The owner parked the car in the back. A girl who I was with ran into someone she knew there. He was in the military and on leave or something. Anyway, he started telling her how he pissed on this lotus that was out back. He even tried to get her to go out and see. She declined. This wasnt in a bad area either, it was in the heart of Daytona on a nice strip.... just something for everyone to think about when vacating your car.

ivan1 · 07-02-2009, 05:45 PM

sounds like it was really yellow

mhouston23 · 07-02-2009, 06:03 PM

Sounds like he would do well in a pissing contest.

ggelise · 07-02-2009, 06:21 PM

that dude was pissed-off

You make a good point.

Lotusmotion · 07-02-2009, 06:44 PM

Yes, it happens...sometimes people have lapses of judgment.

One night after extensive partying when 20 years old (30 years ago), I whipped out my willy (somewhere in the L.A. Convention Center parking lot) and pissed all over the grill of a Rolls Royce that had just parked.

Despite being a car guy at that time and having been raised to be respectful of others and their property, I had just exercised very poor judgement and deserved to have my ass kicked by the RR owner for it (but luckily didn't 'cause he wasn't around).

Good thing is that piss washes off, does not damage anything other than a car owner's pride, and very likely the only one that would even know is the pisser (unless he is dumb enough to publicly brag about it).

If that happened to my car now, I'd restrain the culprit (if possible) and piss on him as an equalizer.

MyFutureSelfnMe · 07-02-2009, 06:59 PM

Washington men beaten with golf club after urinating on car
by The Associated Press
Saturday May 09, 2009, 8:24 AM

Police said two Washington men suffered injuries after they were beaten after urinating on what they thought was an unoccupied vehicle on Friday in Pullman.

Police said the owner got out of the car and assaulted the two men with a golf club. One of the men suffered a possible arm fracture and was transported to Pullman Regional Hospital.

Police Sergeant Dan Dornes said urinating in public is a crime, but the two men will probably not be cited in this case. Police were trying to locate the owner of the car.

Washington men beaten with golf club after urinating on car - OregonLive.com

Gizmo3000 · 07-02-2009, 07:17 PM

One good reason to always try to park your car out front, and highly visible!

cokey · 07-02-2009, 08:31 PM

ha another "the victem gets punished" incident...

around here people get shot for that..

sleepe · 07-02-2009, 08:34 PM

If you feel inclined to hit someone, do so with your fist because the foot or any other object in hand is considered a deadly weapon in most states. Punch them in the fleshy parts to avoid prosecution. (not the face, it will hurt you as well btw)

Legally, an assault constitutes either verbal harassment where the person feels their life is in danger or the more obvious physical component.
Retaliation feels great ephemerally, but the repercussions can be very steep if you cannot afford a competent lawyer.

Assaulting a drunk guy isn't very satisfying anyway, especially if you're sober.

shay2nak · 07-02-2009, 08:41 PM

Exactly, always park out front. No one will pull their d*ck out in front everyone. Well, unless they are in adult business. LOL. I never understood this whole "park out back" BS. You're just asking for it. Might as well park in a dark alley while you're at it

MikeinAlexandria · 07-03-2009, 05:51 AM

Growing up in Europe with a huge respect for cool cars, it still amazes me what scumbags some Americans are. We live in one of the largest democracys in the world, are mostly free to do anything, can make our own lives, and yet this is how we behave. What is really unbelievable is that the kind of guy who would do this would actually have a girl friend, or any friends at all!

Sadly, there is almost nothing you can do with a car vandal unless you are a mobster. Your best bet is to catch them on video, be sure to post it to You Tube, preferably with their name, and show it to the Police. Here in Alexandria, if a citizen sees a misdemeanor (peeing in public, on a car could fall into this) the Police won't do anything! Misdemeanors here are only prosecutable if the officer witnesses the act.

So, the safest thing is public embarrasement... make the guy (or girl) feel like an idiot. Even better, but risky, goad them into attacking you. Once they land even one punch, you've got them for battery, and vandalism, and would probably be justified in restraining them till the Police arrive.

I can't understand why people have no respect for cool cars. I guess it really does have alot to do with upbringing...

LotusStig22 · 07-03-2009, 06:01 AM

This is America, what're you gonna do...?

zcar222 · 07-03-2009, 07:43 AM

Gas cap got stolen the other day. Bought a locking one once I found out it was missing. My sensors didn't trip even driving without the cap. Weird.

-Whit

MyFutureSelfnMe · 07-03-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeinAlexandria

Sadly, there is almost nothing you can do with a car vandal unless you are a mobster. Your best bet is to catch them on video, be sure to post it to You Tube, preferably with their name, and show it to the Police. Here in Alexandria, if a citizen sees a misdemeanor (peeing in public, on a car could fall into this) the Police won't do anything! Misdemeanors here are only prosecutable if the officer witnesses the act.

You don't have to be a mobster to use a breaker bar. When I lived in New York I kept it on the passenger side floor.

PECivil · 07-03-2009, 09:51 AM

I swear to god this is the only downside to the elise. I HATE leaving it anywhere unattended because of this kind of stuff.

LEAVE MY FRICKING CAR ALONE BUDDY!

Again I submit the need for a cloaking device that turns a lotus into a 1981 chevy chevette with visible patches of primer and bondo whilst parked.

delise · 07-03-2009, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PECivil

I swear to god this is the only downside to the elise. I HATE leaving it anywhere unattended because of this kind of stuff.

LEAVE MY FRICKING CAR ALONE BUDDY!

Again I submit the need for a cloaking device that turns a lotus into a 1981 chevy chevette with visible patches of primer and bondo whilst parked.

Medium or dark gray car cover does the trick nicely, most people won't give it a thought while walking past it if you make sure it covers the wheels as well.
Out of sight out of mind. I roll mine up tightly front to back and it fits nicely in the boot...

It would be funny to paint the outside of a car cover to look like a beat up Ford Pinto or Chevy Vega!

PECivil · 07-03-2009, 10:12 AM

yes I really need to get a cover. My office just moved locations. Much nicer digs but the parking is much worse. I went from very secured underground parking to on the street, in the (semi) hood, open lot.

I am fearing I cannot drive it to work anymore.

MyFutureSelfnMe · 07-03-2009, 10:33 AM

If these things happen frequently enough to make the car not worth driving to work, you must live in California. Otherwise, I'd suggest creatively mounting a couple of Bumper Bullies and stop worrying.

MyFutureSelfnMe · 07-03-2009, 10:36 AM

Although, I've been afraid to use the bumper bully myself because people might think it's an open invitation to bump me without consequence. I'd hang them on the doors if I parked in a public lot though.

Lightning · 07-03-2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyFutureSelfnMe

Although, I've been afraid to use the bumper bully myself because people might think it's an open invitation to bump me without consequence. I'd hang them on the doors if I parked in a public lot though.

Put some push pins on it... Hhehe!

07-02-2009, 05:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
ItsThaMonsta Will There Be Cake? Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,086	Another reason to NOT leave the Lotus unattended Its always a lot of people (owners included) that say its just a car blah blah blah. Well this actually happened about a couple months ago. I was in Daytona and stopped at this place. I parked up front by the door. Coincidently, another lotus (looked orange like mine but i think it was really yellow) came to the same place. The owner parked the car in the back. A girl who I was with ran into someone she knew there. He was in the military and on leave or something. Anyway, he started telling her how he pissed on this lotus that was out back. He even tried to get her to go out and see. She declined. This wasnt in a bad area either, it was in the heart of Daytona on a nice strip.... just something for everyone to think about when vacating your car.

07-02-2009, 05:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
ivan1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bedford, NY Posts: 6,279	sounds like it was really yellow __________________ 2008 Elise SC Ardent Red - Touring, Sport, Starshield Previous car - 2005 Elise Saffron Yellow (totaled in flood- the original underwater elise)

07-02-2009, 06:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
mhouston23 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 166 Images: 3	Sounds like he would do well in a pissing contest. __________________ 2008 Persian Blue Elise SC - HT, Sport, Touring 2008 Honda Fit Sport (Daily Driver) 2003 Honda S2000 (Sold) 1999 Honda Prelude SH (Traded)

07-02-2009, 06:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lotusmotion Keep it simple and real Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 925	Yes, it happens...sometimes people have lapses of judgment. One night after extensive partying when 20 years old (30 years ago), I whipped out my willy (somewhere in the L.A. Convention Center parking lot) and pissed all over the grill of a Rolls Royce that had just parked. Despite being a car guy at that time and having been raised to be respectful of others and their property, I had just exercised very poor judgement and deserved to have my ass kicked by the RR owner for it (but luckily didn't 'cause he wasn't around). Good thing is that piss washes off, does not damage anything other than a car owner's pride, and very likely the only one that would even know is the pisser (unless he is dumb enough to publicly brag about it). If that happened to my car now, I'd restrain the culprit (if possible) and piss on him as an equalizer. __________________ '06 Exige - Ph. Black/Touring/Track/LSD/TC/SS. Mods: corner balanced - RTD brace - Manly's inserts - decambered - Pagid Blacks - Motul fluid - tow hooks - Schroth belts - extinguisher - AIM timer - Green Filter - Larini - oil temp & pressure gauges - AO48s & Rotas on track - T1Rs & OEM wheels on street - rear camera & monitor - Stebel horn - speakers upgraded, sub & iPod controller - DRL disable switch - aux. fuse panel - sill pockets - leather console - Bootie - roof scoop functional.

07-02-2009, 06:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
MyFutureSelfnMe Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,205	Washington men beaten with golf club after urinating on car by The Associated Press Saturday May 09, 2009, 8:24 AM Police said two Washington men suffered injuries after they were beaten after urinating on what they thought was an unoccupied vehicle on Friday in Pullman. Police said the owner got out of the car and assaulted the two men with a golf club. One of the men suffered a possible arm fracture and was transported to Pullman Regional Hospital. Police Sergeant Dan Dornes said urinating in public is a crime, but the two men will probably not be cited in this case. Police were trying to locate the owner of the car. Washington men beaten with golf club after urinating on car - OregonLive.com __________________ Originally Posted by dead_ed I love my elise but there's no hiding that it was assembled by drunks.

07-02-2009, 06:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
ggelise Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 193	that dude was pissed-off You make a good point.

07-02-2009, 07:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gizmo3000 Register Abuser Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sherman Oaks Posts: 970	One good reason to always try to park your car out front, and highly visible! __________________ 2005 Starlight Black Elise, -hardtop/touring/black interior/sector111 carpet buttons! 2008 Infiniti G37-S 1991 300ZX 2+2 1974 MGB Roadster

07-02-2009, 08:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
cokey i'm fast Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: brooklyn ny Posts: 317	ha another "the victem gets punished" incident... around here people get shot for that.. __________________ BMW steel grey 04' neon srt4 ???hp ???ft lbs pulled the motor myself n rebuilt it.. got my baby back and its running strong. here for the love of the Elise, Exige and gaining the knowledge before I can get my own... my car.. http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f152...ny-pics-62883/

07-02-2009, 08:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
sleepe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 1,049	If you feel inclined to hit someone, do so with your fist because the foot or any other object in hand is considered a deadly weapon in most states. Punch them in the fleshy parts to avoid prosecution. (not the face, it will hurt you as well btw) Legally, an assault constitutes either verbal harassment where the person feels their life is in danger or the more obvious physical component. Retaliation feels great ephemerally, but the repercussions can be very steep if you cannot afford a competent lawyer. Assaulting a drunk guy isn't very satisfying anyway, especially if you're sober. __________________ Elise'06ST:RAC/r888-Ultradiscs-Larini 8"-Braille-Saikou Michi cans-Nitron sportpro-RTVbrace-widened undertrays-manly's motor inserts-FF engine damper VF2

07-02-2009, 08:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
shay2nak I <3 chicken, I <3 liver Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Land of da 1000 Oaks, CA Posts: 15,042	Exactly, always park out front. No one will pull their dck out in front everyone. Well, unless they are in adult business. LOL. I never understood this whole "park out back" BS. You're just asking for it. Might as well park in a dark alley while you're at it __________________ * save ~10 lbs gain 1 hp ** EQ: Y=(190X) / (1984-X) where Y is (HP) and X is (lbs) '07 EXIGE S * MY CAR ** VIDEOS! '08 ACURA TSX 6-speed http://www.makeNYNYagain.com

07-03-2009, 05:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
MikeinAlexandria Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 453 Images: 5	Growing up in Europe with a huge respect for cool cars, it still amazes me what scumbags some Americans are. We live in one of the largest democracys in the world, are mostly free to do anything, can make our own lives, and yet this is how we behave. What is really unbelievable is that the kind of guy who would do this would actually have a girl friend, or any friends at all! Sadly, there is almost nothing you can do with a car vandal unless you are a mobster. Your best bet is to catch them on video, be sure to post it to You Tube, preferably with their name, and show it to the Police. Here in Alexandria, if a citizen sees a misdemeanor (peeing in public, on a car could fall into this) the Police won't do anything! Misdemeanors here are only prosecutable if the officer witnesses the act. So, the safest thing is public embarrasement... make the guy (or girl) feel like an idiot. Even better, but risky, goad them into attacking you. Once they land even one punch, you've got them for battery, and vandalism, and would probably be justified in restraining them till the Police arrive. I can't understand why people have no respect for cool cars. I guess it really does have alot to do with upbringing... __________________ 2005 Elise in Racing Green with the touring pack 2007 MINI Cooper S in Sparkling Silver 2001 BMW Z3 Coupe in Sapphire Black (sold) 2002 MINI Cooper in yellow (sold) 1996 BMW Z3 Roadster (Racing Dynamics version) (sold) Founder of the Racing Green Confederate

07-03-2009, 06:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
LotusStig22 LT Rebel in Hiding. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wouldn't you like to know? Posts: 848	This is America, what're you gonna do...? __________________ "My plan is to dress as a leprechaun and stand at the side of the road with an engine crane and a crowbar. The cops will waste valuable time breathalyzing the driver after he tells them a leprechaun stole his engine and I'll be able to make an escape" ~Cthulhu ChuforiaGraffix.com SDD Lives On! SweetDaddyDelicious(at)hotmail(dot)com

07-03-2009, 07:43 AM	#13 (permalink)
zcar222 Registered A-Hole Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 659	Gas cap got stolen the other day. Bought a locking one once I found out it was missing. My sensors didn't trip even driving without the cap. Weird. -Whit

07-03-2009, 09:51 AM	#15 (permalink)
PECivil Engineer of Record Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SandyEggo Posts: 196	I swear to god this is the only downside to the elise. I HATE leaving it anywhere unattended because of this kind of stuff. LEAVE MY FRICKING CAR ALONE BUDDY! Again I submit the need for a cloaking device that turns a lotus into a 1981 chevy chevette with visible patches of primer and bondo whilst parked. __________________ 02 Phoenix Yellow M3 (fast and fun) 06 Autumn Gold Elise (faster and funner) 07 328iT (wifey's car)

07-03-2009, 10:12 AM	#17 (permalink)
PECivil Engineer of Record Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SandyEggo Posts: 196	yes I really need to get a cover. My office just moved locations. Much nicer digs but the parking is much worse. I went from very secured underground parking to on the street, in the (semi) hood, open lot. I am fearing I cannot drive it to work anymore. __________________ 02 Phoenix Yellow M3 (fast and fun) 06 Autumn Gold Elise (faster and funner) 07 328iT (wifey's car)

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07-03-2009, 10:33 AM	#18 (permalink)
MyFutureSelfnMe Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,205	If these things happen frequently enough to make the car not worth driving to work, you must live in California. Otherwise, I'd suggest creatively mounting a couple of Bumper Bullies and stop worrying. __________________ Originally Posted by dead_ed I love my elise but there's no hiding that it was assembled by drunks.

07-03-2009, 10:36 AM	#19 (permalink)
MyFutureSelfnMe Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,205	Although, I've been afraid to use the bumper bully myself because people might think it's an open invitation to bump me without consequence. I'd hang them on the doors if I parked in a public lot though. __________________ Originally Posted by dead_ed I love my elise but there's no hiding that it was assembled by drunks.