B&M Install + CF Console - LotusTalk

Dave · 11-23-2005, 04:56 PM

Received my B&M shift kit today and thought I'd throw some pictures out. It's an impressive piece of work. I'm not going to post any instructions, as the included ones are very well designed and simple to implement. Since I had to pull the console, I took the opportunity to buy myself an early Christmas present - Shinoo's CF center console (A/C surround on order with Indy). Total installation time was about 2 hours for the both of them, and that was going slow with a couple beer breaks. Having both shift levers in-hand educated me on just how poor the OEM design is...very disappointed with Lotus on that. While unable to test drive (snowed 2" here today

) I can still feel how much more positive the shifts are, not to mention the peace of mind that my shifter won't bust off somewhere in BFE.

Dave · 11-23-2005, 04:57 PM

One more...

ct_mazi · 11-23-2005, 05:06 PM

Dave,
Thank you for posting the pictures. It looks very nice! Is it heavier and shorter than the stock one? It does look about the same size as the stock one. You are tempting me!

Dave · 11-23-2005, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ct_mazi

Dave,
Thank you for posting the pictures. It looks very nice! Is it heavier and shorter than the stock one? It does look about the same size as the stock one. You are tempting me!

The B&M is a little heavier than stock, especially with that beef-eating sumo ball. It may be a bit shorter, but not anything noticeable to me.

Bruce · 11-23-2005, 05:18 PM

Thanks, for the info Dave. Are the throws any shorter? Since it's not bent like the stock one, do you bang the side of your leg when putting in reverse? Does it feel better than the stock one since it's not bent? I know you didn't have to use the threaded adapter for the shift knob, but does the adapter for the M10 screw in replacing the M8 stud?

Dave · 11-23-2005, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce

Thanks, for the info Dave. Are the throws any shorter? Since it's not bent like the stock one, do you bang the side of your leg when putting in reverse? Does it feel better than the stock one since it's not bent? I know you didn't have to use the threaded adapter for the shift knob, but does the adapter for the M10 screw in replacing the M8 stud?

I really didn't notice shorter throws - but will be able to tell more when the snow melts and actually drive the car. Reverse throw distance seems about the same as stock (maybe a pinch more?), and yes to the stud adapter...the kit includes both as well.

sleepless · 11-23-2005, 05:39 PM

Thanks for all the pics and info Dave! I'm going to install the B&M soon ... Early X=mas present for the Liz

Terry · 11-23-2005, 05:57 PM

What do these gauges show and what is your floor mat? Also, do you really have a nitro application? If so, how is it?

JimK · 11-23-2005, 05:58 PM

Thanks Dave, looks like the shaft is about 1.5" shorter and 50% thicker
than oem. I think this should be my next mod (after the wheels and tires).

Dave · 11-23-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry

What do these gauges show and what is your floor mat? Also, do you really have a nitro application? If so, how is it?

You can get the floormats here: http://www.thematsite.com/autofloorm...selModel=ELISE

The gauges are DC Volts and Nitrous pressure...yes it's for real. Search 'nitrous' for more.

pianomaniac · 11-23-2005, 07:10 PM

Dave, thanks for posting the pics. Looks good, but would like to see Sector 111 offering everything to the tranny in one package.

Lotus, you should be ashamed of the OEM lever and the manner in which you are handling warranty on them.

Jack · 11-23-2005, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pianomaniac

Lotus, you should be ashamed of the OEM lever and the manner in which you are handling warranty on them.

Why -- Lotus took care of mine just fine.

pianomaniac · 11-23-2005, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack

Why -- Lotus took care of mine just fine.

Before or after it broke?

shinoo · 11-23-2005, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

... I can still feel how much more positive the shifts are...

Dave,
Cool. Thx for posting pix and comments. I'm glad to hear you have noticed an improvement with the B&M.

The Stig put one in his car and is also quite pleased - and he is quite a sensitive fellow...

shinoo · 11-23-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pianomaniac

...Looks good, but would like to see Sector 111 offering everything to the tranny in one package...

You mean like our upcoming Sequential Shifter?

Well at least it'll replace everything to the cables....

Jack · 11-24-2005, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pianomaniac

Before or after it broke?

Before

pianomaniac · 11-24-2005, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack

Before

Where do you go for service? PM the answer if you like.

Iceman- · 11-24-2005, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

The B&M is a little heavier than stock, especially with that beef-eating sumo ball. It may be a bit shorter, but not anything noticeable to me.

Ok it's beauty and good design but with it the movements are shorter between the gears? or the movements of the gears are exactly the same of stock? I don't like stock gear leverage because it has long traveller from a gear to another.
I prefer a short movement gear leverage.

Patricko · 11-24-2005, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman-

Ok it's beauty and good design but with it the movements are shorter between the gears? or the movements of the gears are exactly the same of stock? I don't like stock gear leverage because it has long traveller from a gear to another.
I prefer a short movement gear leverage.

It has about a 10% shorter throw

Iceman- · 11-24-2005, 12:26 PM

Too little decrease.
The kit for the European Rover engined cars are cheap and it is a paradise! It decrease the travel about 50%!

11-23-2005, 04:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dave Kold-Fire.com Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,286	B&M Install + CF Console Received my B&M shift kit today and thought I'd throw some pictures out. It's an impressive piece of work. I'm not going to post any instructions, as the included ones are very well designed and simple to implement. Since I had to pull the console, I took the opportunity to buy myself an early Christmas present - Shinoo's CF center console (A/C surround on order with Indy). Total installation time was about 2 hours for the both of them, and that was going slow with a couple beer breaks. Having both shift levers in-hand educated me on just how poor the OEM design is...very disappointed with Lotus on that. While unable to test drive (snowed 2" here today ) I can still feel how much more positive the shifts are, not to mention the peace of mind that my shifter won't bust off somewhere in BFE. Attached Images __________________ Kold-Fire ECU Performance Tuning is here...click for more info Last edited by Dave; 11-23-2005 at 05:04 PM.

11-23-2005, 04:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dave Kold-Fire.com Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,286	One more... Attached Images __________________ Kold-Fire ECU Performance Tuning is here...click for more info Last edited by Dave; 12-29-2005 at 11:01 AM.

11-23-2005, 05:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bruce Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,583	Thanks, for the info Dave. Are the throws any shorter? Since it's not bent like the stock one, do you bang the side of your leg when putting in reverse? Does it feel better than the stock one since it's not bent? I know you didn't have to use the threaded adapter for the shift knob, but does the adapter for the M10 screw in replacing the M8 stud? __________________ '05 Storm Titanium / Red Touring / Hardtop / Stage 1 / Exige Wheels / Ohlins / RTD Brace / Traqmate

11-23-2005, 05:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
sleepless Elise Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,237	Thanks for all the pics and info Dave! I'm going to install the B&M soon ... Early X=mas present for the Liz __________________ Pete 05 Lotus Elise \| 97 Porsche Turbo

11-23-2005, 05:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
JimK rooster Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bettendorf, IA Posts: 2,159	Thanks Dave, looks like the shaft is about 1.5" shorter and 50% thicker than oem. I think this should be my next mod (after the wheels and tires). __________________ Spec Miata #73 Reynard F2000 various Hondas

11-23-2005, 05:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
ct_mazi Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: washington dc Posts: 390	Dave, Thank you for posting the pictures. It looks very nice! Is it heavier and shorter than the stock one? It does look about the same size as the stock one. You are tempting me!

11-23-2005, 05:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
Terry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 392	What do these gauges show and what is your floor mat? Also, do you really have a nitro application? If so, how is it?

11-23-2005, 07:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
pianomaniac Elise #76 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,531	Dave, thanks for posting the pics. Looks good, but would like to see Sector 111 offering everything to the tranny in one package. Lotus, you should be ashamed of the OEM lever and the manner in which you are handling warranty on them. __________________ Owner of '05 Elise S/T- touring- LSS-Stage 2 '07 Audi RS4 4.2L V-8 420 HP - 6 Sp..(sold) '07 Toyota Prius

11-24-2005, 12:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
Iceman- Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 439	Too little decrease. The kit for the European Rover engined cars are cheap and it is a paradise! It decrease the travel about 50%! __________________ WWW.111R.ORG www.domusaureare.it 2004 Lotus SY 111R Elise

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