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Old 09-09-2009, 12:44 PM   #81 (permalink)
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This is the way to go...get an Elise and mod it to be unique with the extra 15 k. Hell you can make an Exise or Elige - there are members here who have replaced their front or rear clam with an Exige clam (knucklehead and Jon - who btw was selling his car).

With 15k you can throw in a blower, aero, and suspension and smoke an Exige in style.
Even if you don't track your car,
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The Exige does look better though : ) admit it Eddie
Roger, only if it's modded like yours...otherwise stock Exige blahhh
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:49 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Olathe? Oh well theres the problem. We lotus drivers wouldn't dare venture to olathe!!

Not sure why you haven't seen us. There's no less than a dozen in the area. I dont drive mine daily by any means and usually just between OP and leawood. Otherwise, you will see me pulling a little trailer with tires on my way to the track.

Good luck in your search!

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Yea Olathe does suck haha but not much better than OP lol but youll have to let me know where the other drivers meet up once i get mine.. and Im also a little over 6 foot so the elise might be a better decesion basically as of right now im going to buy the first elise/exige that i can find that doesnt have a lot of miles and basically not a gazillion miles away from where I live
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:49 PM   #83 (permalink)
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I don't understand why Exige owner gets so defensive. Well, I do get it, they paid more for the same car.

But the point is, if it's worth it to YOU, buy an Exige. But the Exige is no better than the Elise. It is the SAME car. If the extras that come with the Exige floats your boat, by all mean go buy one. But the Exige has nothing the Elise doesn't. Well except for the M62 which can be easily bought anywhere.

Don't make me laugh with the proven aerodynamic of the Exige. Reverie tested it and dramatically improved it. Reverie stuff makes 3 times more downforce for 14% more drag. If you buy the Exige for the aero you're making the wrong call.

Do I regret not buying an Exige? Nope.
Is my car faster than an Exige? Yep.
Can 99,99% of the population make the difference between the 2 cars? Nope.

Buy the Exige for what it is, a souped up Elise.
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:53 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I don't understand why Exige owner gets so defensive. Well, I do get it, they paid more for the same car.

But the point is, if it's worth it to YOU, buy an Exige. But the Exige is no better than the Elise. It is the SAME car. If the extras that come with the Exige floats your boat, by all mean go buy one. But the Exige has nothing the Elise doesn't. Well except for the M62 which can be easily bought anywhere.

Don't make me laugh with the proven aerodynamic of the Exige. Reverie tested it and dramatically improved it. Reverie stuff makes 3 times more downforce for 14% more drag. If you buy the Exige for the aero you're making the wrong call.

Do I regret not buying an Exige? Nope.
Is my car faster than an Exige? Yep.
Can 99,99% of the population make the difference between the 2 cars? Nope.

Buy the Exige for what it is, a souped up Elise.
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I own an Exige and I have test driven an Elise. The Exige is fun and seems to have more of a sporting feel to it. The rear view is non-existent on an Exige S. The Elise (in comparison) seems more "cushioned" than the Exige, be it the sport pack, stiff springs, or tires. Both draw the same amount of attention and both are amazing fun to drive.
I would keep the Exige as a second car and get an Elise for a daily driver.
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:54 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Guys... please dont argue, everyone have their own needs
track or dailydriver or just for fun or just for show or w.e ...

everyone have a different point of view and you cant put them together

exige is like BMW M3 and elise is like 335i, you can tune the hell out of 335 and could compare w m3 but when it comes down to the class and performance M3 is always better
Just like exige, you will have more fun from a factory tuned exige than an elise.
but if you are to argue about giving up the higher class and better look and every penny for the track, then your in another dimension from the exiges.

sometimes ppl will just rather spend the few more pennies to have a nicer look, if your tuning an elise in order to compare w an exige stock then why not get an exige...
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:24 PM   #87 (permalink)
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I don't understand why Elise owner gets so argumentative. Well, I do get it, they could have paid a little more for the a higher performance version of the same car.

But the point is, if it's worth it to YOU, buy an Elise. But the Elise is no better than the Exige. It is the SAME car. If the extras that come with the Elise floats your boat, by all mean go buy one. But the Elise has nothing the Exige doesn't. Well except for the softtop which can be easily bought anywhere.

Don't make me laugh with the better rearward visibility of the Elise. Multivex tested it and dramatically improved it. Multivex stuff eliminates the blind spots without ruining the normal side view. If you buy the Elise for the visibility you're making the wrong call.

Do I regret not buying an Elise? Nope.
Is my car faster than an Elise? Yep.
Can 99,99% of the population make the difference between the 2 cars? Nope.

Buy the Elise for what it is, an entry level model Exige.


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Old 09-09-2009, 04:54 PM   #88 (permalink)
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I don't understand why Elise owner gets so argumentative. Well, I do get it, they could have paid a little more for the a higher performance version of the same car.

But the point is, if it's worth it to YOU, buy an Elise. But the Elise is no better than the Exige. It is the SAME car. If the extras that come with the Elise floats your boat, by all mean go buy one. But the Elise has nothing the Exige doesn't. Well except for the softtop which can be easily bought anywhere.

Don't make me laugh with the better rearward visibility of the Elise. Multivex tested it and dramatically improved it. Multivex stuff eliminates the blind spots without ruining the normal side view. If you buy the Elise for the visibility you're making the wrong call.

Do I regret not buying an Elise? Nope.
Is my car faster than an Elise? Yep.
Can 99,99% of the population make the difference between the 2 cars? Nope.

Buy the Elise for what it is, an entry level model Exige.


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Old 09-09-2009, 04:55 PM   #89 (permalink)
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I like this subject, and I like as usual the point of Phil.

First, we need to separate the Exige family since the first gen Exige was using the same power than Elise. After, Lotus cam back with a 220 hp version, and the year after the super 240 hp, and now if you pay more you will have the 260 hp. Can we say that the Exige is faster than the Elise? Depends which Exige you have, since you can have now the 220 Elise.

This is my point, when Exige people are speaking we can ear something like EEEEExige. All the **** is marketing. When a Exige owner is looking for a part he will say I am looking for a Exige's windsheild, or Exige's wheel bolt, or Exige's oil filter. It is like they just don't know that both car are very very similar. Funny? YES.

OK, the Exige have few options like:

- Bigger front brake in option probably. Nice, but to be honest it is just a marketing stuff. As is, the standard brake balance is already bad with not enought brake at the back. On my car I don't have the ABS unit (broken, just removed it), and it was required to add a proportional pressure reduction valve in front to obtain a better brake balance. And both car have the worst rear caliper on the market with the pad fixed on the floating part. My old Kia Rio was better than that... And the so nice Exige still have that stupid rear caliper. In practice, the mean trouble of the brake is not the caliper or the disc, but just the brake pads, at 250$ front and rear. Why adding weight with heady disc if you can solve the trouble with better pads, this solution is the race inspired solution. Why putting bigger brake, meanly marketing. If someone want to give me a Exige big brake kit, I will just say no thank. Why paying more if I don't want it free.

For all other so nice option, I fully agree with Phil. I purchased my Elise with no option just because it was clear that the top parts of Lotus was the bottom line of high performance parts for track.

If you go to the grocery, you will pay more for added value, like paper sheet between each slice of ham. You will pay more on Bio food because quite often it is sold with a nice wood package (which is not pollution friendly) and vantage looking stuff around the container. I am cheap, I am paying for the food, not for the illusion of the difference.
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Yea Olathe does suck haha but not much better than OP lol but youll have to let me know where the other drivers meet up once i get mine.. and Im also a little over 6 foot so the elise might be a better decesion basically as of right now im going to buy the first elise/exige that i can find that doesnt have a lot of miles and basically not a gazillion miles away from where I live
i wood here too four reccommend getin wich eva car u wanna get becus it the best car that u like in ur own mind becus it really is the best for you i say this becus u need too chews the car u prefer based onlee on wich car you like do you understan...i says this becus ether way u chews u will have a awsum time in eetther car be it exige or elise do you hear me... my prefrese is the elise but i have a elise but i plan on gettin a exige in a year or so.. why do i wanna get a exige now sinse i own elise for 3 years becus i think the change will be awsum and i want more power with a exige s and totaly hate the look of the elise s now with its crappy fake wing and all...jus my too sense.
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Old 09-09-2009, 11:41 PM   #91 (permalink)
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$27,000 Elise + $10,000+ in modifications = $26,000 Elise

$37,0000 Exige = $37,000 Exige


So $27,000 + $10,000 = $26,000?
$37,0000? If you meant $37,000, I understand entirely.




























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i wood here too four reccommend getin wich eva car u wanna get becus it the best car that u like in ur own mind becus it really is the best for you i say this becus u need too chews the car u prefer based onlee on wich car you like do you understan...i says this becus ether way u chews u will have a awsum time in eetther car be it exige or elise do you hear me... my prefrese is the elise but i have a elise but i plan on gettin a exige in a year or so.. why do i wanna get a exige now sinse i own elise for 3 years becus i think the change will be awsum and i want more power with a exige s and totaly hate the look of the elise s now with its crappy fake wing and all...jus my too sense.
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So $27,000 + $10,000 = $26,000?
$37,0000? If you meant $37,000, I understand entirely.




























No, I still don't.
























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I think hes meaning even if you throw 10 grand into an elise its still gonna have the same resale value as a stock one.. and if thats not wat he meant than he just sucks at math really badly
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I think hes meaning even if you throw 10 grand into an elise its still gonna have the same resale value as a stock one.. and if thats not wat he meant than he just sucks at math really badly
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So $27,000 + $10,000 = $26,000?
$37,0000? If you meant $37,000, I understand entirely.




























No, I still don't. :wallbang

























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No offense taken. I will help you with the math. Take a $27,000 Elise and add $10,000+ in mods. Try to sell it and you will find you have now have an Elise that is now worth $27,000 or less. You just flushed $10,000 down the toilet. If you had spent the extra money on an Exige S the value would be much higher than the modded Elise.
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I'm pretty sure my Katana SC is worth more than 0$.
I'd bet my Reverie wing is worth more than that as well.
I'm sure someone might be interested in my fuel swirl pot if I was to sell it.
Last time I checked, used 2bular exhaust were selling for a lot more than nothing.

If you want to make money, sell your car and invest in the stock market. Right about now would be the best time to do it. Cars are a money pit. Exiges are no exceptions.

But wait, you could buy an Elise and invest the remaining 15k$. That way you can have fun AND make money!
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I'm pretty sure my Katana SC is worth more than 0$.
I'd bet my Reverie wing is worth more than that as well.
I'm sure someone might be interested in my fuel swirl pot if I was to sell it.
Last time I checked, used 2bular exhaust were selling for a lot more than nothing.

Unfortunatly not if you leave them on the car. Hence why I've been told my 292hp "Exige" isn't worth more than $35k. I'm just too lazy to part it back down to stock then sell.
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Hence, buy a stock Elise. Add good suspension which is easy to take off and transfer to the next car.

Spend three or four grand learning to drive which then works in ANY car ane never depreciates.

Problem solved.

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