F430 against an Exige? Please explain... - LotusTalk

tcnohead · 03-20-2007, 05:14 PM

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...ige/index.html

Can someone explain to me why they did this?

Anyways.... I noticed the writers complaint about the noise. I am a soon-to-be Elise/Exige (Wife want the Elise, I want the Exige.. grrr...) and when I test drove the Elise, yea there was noise but it wasnt an "echo chamber"...

Your thoughts....

Anyone have a an Exige/Elise in the St. Pete area that is Storm Titanium with black wheels? Let me know... I would take Rachel's white one but my wife has her heart set on Storm T.. Sorry Rachel.

MickOpalak · 03-20-2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tcnohead

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...ige/index.html

Can someone explain to me why they did this?

To show how little the extra $150,000 gets you.

Dietrich · 03-20-2007, 06:18 PM

to show how much you are getting for 60k.

texige · 03-20-2007, 06:59 PM

To give Ferrari Chat something to moan about.

CanadianRedline · 03-20-2007, 08:14 PM

That was a great article. I think what it says is that both companies do what they do very well. If you think an Exige is is the same class as an F430 you are delusional. If you think the Exige is unworthy to be compared to the Prancing Pony you are more concerned with the name than the drive. I wouldn't trade my Elise for anything (well, perhaps a couple of vintage cars I can think about, but that's another thread), but I'd take the Ferrari any day. At the end of the day I'd love the $200K car, but I'd rather have an Elise, an Exige, an Ariel Atom and half the mortgage.

macfly · 03-20-2007, 09:21 PM

I don't see that it is a problem comparing the two, you'd be surprised to know that there are quite a few F-car owners amongst us here. You can't be the fab factor of an F-car, but it simply isn't as practical as a Lotus a constant track day companion if you like tracking a lot.

If I had unlimited funds I'd have a Carrera GT rather than an F-car. I met a guy who has them all, Enzos, 575, Stradale 430 race car, GT3 Cup car, a pair of Zondas, and he says the best of all of them is the C-GT. He races both his F & P-cars too, and has mad money to buy-try everything, so I'm good to take his word on it.

Dietrich · 03-20-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by macfly

I don't see that it is a problem comparing the two, you'd be surprised to know that there are quite a few F-car owners amongst us here. You can't be the fab factor of an F-car, but it simply isn't as practical as a Lotus a constant track day companion if you like tracking a lot.

If I had unlimited funds I'd have a Carrera GT rather than an F-car. I met a guy who has them all, Enzos, 575, Stradale 430 race car, GT3 Cup car, a pair of Zondas, and he says the best of all of them is the C-GT. He races both his F & P-cars too, and has mad money to buy-try everything, so I'm good to take his word on it.

I heard from a different guy that has them all that the best one was a car made in the 90s with the seat in the middle.

GetBoost · 03-20-2007, 11:30 PM

You mean the one with the seat in the middle and two in the back?

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Originally Posted by Dietrich

I heard from a different guy that has them all that the best one was a car made in the 90s with the seat in the middle.

JeffYoung · 03-21-2007, 03:21 AM

The best one is clearly a 1978 Chevy LUV pickup. Clearly.

SweetDaddyD · 03-21-2007, 06:40 AM

The noise is a problem? I love it, I'm just glad they didn't charge me extra for it. Heck at the sacrifice of performance I've even added that joke of an intake the Fujita with no other benefit than glorius noise. On my bike I paid a lot extra for the pipe to make the extra music. Bring the noise!!!

andykeck · 03-21-2007, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dietrich

I heard from a different guy that has them all that the best one was a car made in the 90s with the seat in the middle.

I don't have them all, but of the all the cars of the modern era, that's the one I want.

Bleu Omdurman · 03-21-2007, 07:10 AM

indeed

Jack · 03-21-2007, 07:37 AM

There is no comparison -- it just makes for a good story line.

Rydiak · 03-21-2007, 07:45 AM

The McLaren F1 was supposedly tricky to drive though.... but god do I want one too. :P

texige · 03-21-2007, 08:00 AM

IMO you need both because they are very different. The Lotus is a great street car because you can have alot of fun and it's fast on roads where the speeds are under 80 mphs whereas the Ferrari IMO really doesn't start to get fun until you are over 80 which is too fast for street driving. The Lotus is not a highway flyer but instead a backroad burner.

Lotus Nut · 03-21-2007, 10:55 AM

IMO if you buy a Lotus, you pay for the car. If you buy a Ferrari, you pay for the name.

NMRJock · 03-21-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus Nut

IMO if you buy a Lotus, you pay for the car. If you buy a Ferrari, you pay for the name.

I sure wish that I could afford that name.

Lotus Nut · 03-21-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NMRJock

I sure wish that I could afford that name.

And if you want the full name (ENZO FERRARI) you pay a lot more. like $650,000 MSRP+.

Stephen · 03-21-2007, 11:16 AM

I would like to see that same comparo except this time with a FF R340 Exige. Now that would be interesting.

Actually, that would not be much of a comparo, let's make the Exige a FF275 instead.

lotusmark · 03-21-2007, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dietrich

I heard from a different guy that has them all that the best one was a car made in the 90s with the seat in the middle.

That would be the one I would have.

03-20-2007, 05:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
tcnohead Who needs nicotine? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 958	F430 against an Exige? Please explain... http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...ige/index.html Can someone explain to me why they did this? Anyways.... I noticed the writers complaint about the noise. I am a soon-to-be Elise/Exige (Wife want the Elise, I want the Exige.. grrr...) and when I test drove the Elise, yea there was noise but it wasnt an "echo chamber"... Your thoughts.... Anyone have a an Exige/Elise in the St. Pete area that is Storm Titanium with black wheels? Let me know... I would take Rachel's white one but my wife has her heart set on Storm T.. Sorry Rachel.

03-20-2007, 08:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
CanadianRedline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 246	That was a great article. I think what it says is that both companies do what they do very well. If you think an Exige is is the same class as an F430 you are delusional. If you think the Exige is unworthy to be compared to the Prancing Pony you are more concerned with the name than the drive. I wouldn't trade my Elise for anything (well, perhaps a couple of vintage cars I can think about, but that's another thread), but I'd take the Ferrari any day. At the end of the day I'd love the $200K car, but I'd rather have an Elise, an Exige, an Ariel Atom and half the mortgage. __________________ John -------------------------------------------------- '06 Polar Blue/ Biscuit/ Touring/ Hard Top/ Starshield/ Stage II Fast is slow, just quicker!

03-20-2007, 09:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
macfly Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hollywood Posts: 985	I don't see that it is a problem comparing the two, you'd be surprised to know that there are quite a few F-car owners amongst us here. You can't be the fab factor of an F-car, but it simply isn't as practical as a Lotus a constant track day companion if you like tracking a lot. If I had unlimited funds I'd have a Carrera GT rather than an F-car. I met a guy who has them all, Enzos, 575, Stradale 430 race car, GT3 Cup car, a pair of Zondas, and he says the best of all of them is the C-GT. He races both his F & P-cars too, and has mad money to buy-try everything, so I'm good to take his word on it. __________________ macfly LA CA USA BMW Z8 __________________

03-21-2007, 07:10 AM	#12 (permalink)
Bleu Omdurman More track time please. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,693	indeed __________________ Take my track day survey: here You should enjoy it. 10 questions. Now take survey #2 here Mods: TurboXS Intake, Ultra Disc Rotors, Adare Motorsports Racing Pads.

03-21-2007, 07:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
Jack Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,174	There is no comparison -- it just makes for a good story line. __________________ Jack '08 2-Eleven Track videos ... http://www.youtube.com/jackcup

03-20-2007, 06:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
Dietrich I can run very fast Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 722	to show how much you are getting for 60k.

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texige Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: austin texas Posts: 871	To give Ferrari Chat something to moan about.

03-21-2007, 03:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
JeffYoung Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 837	The best one is clearly a 1978 Chevy LUV pickup. Clearly.

03-21-2007, 06:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
SweetDaddyD BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 7,646 Images: 2	The noise is a problem? I love it, I'm just glad they didn't charge me extra for it. Heck at the sacrifice of performance I've even added that joke of an intake the Fujita with no other benefit than glorius noise. On my bike I paid a lot extra for the pipe to make the extra music. Bring the noise!!!

03-21-2007, 07:45 AM	#14 (permalink)
Rydiak Powered by AMG Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Prospect Heights, IL Posts: 123	The McLaren F1 was supposedly tricky to drive though.... but god do I want one too. :P __________________ 2008 Mazda MX-5 Miata 2005 Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6 2005 Ford Crown Victoria (Shared with 2 other people )

03-21-2007, 08:00 AM	#15 (permalink)
texige Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: austin texas Posts: 871	IMO you need both because they are very different. The Lotus is a great street car because you can have alot of fun and it's fast on roads where the speeds are under 80 mphs whereas the Ferrari IMO really doesn't start to get fun until you are over 80 which is too fast for street driving. The Lotus is not a highway flyer but instead a backroad burner.

03-21-2007, 10:55 AM	#16 (permalink)
Lotus Nut I Need Elise! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Farmington MI Posts: 39	IMO if you buy a Lotus, you pay for the car. If you buy a Ferrari, you pay for the name.

03-21-2007, 11:16 AM	#19 (permalink)
Stephen Waiting for next Lotus... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: West of Mississippi Posts: 1,892	I would like to see that same comparo except this time with a FF R340 Exige. Now that would be interesting. Actually, that would not be much of a comparo, let's make the Exige a FF275 instead. __________________ 2009 Mini Cooper JCW - Dark Silver/Black - sport suspension/cold weather package 2008 997 GT3 - Carrara White/Black - PCCB's - 350 lbs of weight reduction Past Lotus Cars: 2005 NFB Elise, 2007 CO Exige S, 2005 AR Elise, 2008 CO Exige S 240

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