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Old 07-07-2008, 01:57 PM   #421 (permalink)
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out of ALL the places i thought i would see peole sticking up for me i found it to be a lotus forum Anyone fancy modding their Esprit....... - Lotus Esprit Forum
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MikeMo - it appears that Union Beach, NJ is near Perth Amboy. There are plenty of Lotus guys in NJ. All you have to do is meet up with one of us and we can verify it.
Why would he go out of his way to have it verifed? So he can subject himself to another 400 flame posts? "Meet up with one of us"? That sounds like it would be a fun afternoon for the kid. Would be like a Crip "meeting up" with some Bloods.
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:14 PM   #423 (permalink)
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i would do it i dont care
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:39 PM   #424 (permalink)
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It is a photochop & he is a troll, he is "back from vacation" and does not own even a cheap digital camera to snap some picts ? Yet he has the money to have LCDs installed in his seat rears? Again how about a nice clear & brightly lit day time shot, top off the car, showing how the LCDs are held in place into the very thin head rests of an 2005 and the head unit. Also please have video playing in the LCDs so we know you did not just velcro 2 old broken monitors to the seats........ Check out the angle or lack of angle on the top of the LCD in relation to the seat and car window edges, also check out the wonderful reflection to the left that is in the wrong place way too far back ?
^^ you fail. that is not a photoshop what so ever. the car is real, the kid is real, and the t.vs are real.

he did not take the pictures him self, i did i know the kid personally and we went to a local car meet together and that is where i took the pictures. i have a nikon d40 digital slr, so you are once again wrong for saying he didnt have a cheap camera to take the pictures.

so in other words this car and the tvs are REAL if you dont believe hes a thread on another site, that i created the night i took the pictures, and you can read what the people that WERE THERE AND SAW THE CAR IN PERSON had to say.

hazlet meet 6/3/08 - NJTuners.com

so i have no idea how you can call this kid a liar.
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:59 PM   #425 (permalink)
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Mikemo,

It appears the posts on the Esprit forum are from March of 2007. They seem to be sticking up (some of them, at least) for some other modder who also did the TV in the headrest mod...you are apparently not alone.

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Old 07-07-2008, 03:08 PM   #426 (permalink)
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^^ you fail. that is not a photoshop what so ever. the car is real, the kid is real, and the t.vs are real.

he did not take the pictures him self, i did i know the kid personally and we went to a local car meet together and that is where i took the pictures.
Sorry, I don't believe it.

You may have taken the photo, but someone added to it.

Again, look at the original photo in this thread - there's a zoomed in view below. Note that the top and bottom of the "display" is horizontal to the photo. Note the bottom of the center brake light, the bottom of the back window, and the vents in the engine cover. All of them appear at an angle because of the perspective of the photo - but the display is not.
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Let me know when the next NJTunners meet is and I will see if I can meet you there. Might be difficult this week. But I can def go next week.
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:52 PM   #428 (permalink)
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Why would he go out of his way to have it verifed? So he can subject himself to another 400 flame posts? "Meet up with one of us"? That sounds like it would be a fun afternoon for the kid. Would be like a Crip "meeting up" with some Bloods.
Can't you see this guy saying "yes" to meeting other Lotus owners and frantically cutting holes in his Lotus seats, trying to jam two video monitors in there?

And for what reason?

In his words, "I got t.v.'s put in my headerests."
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:24 PM   #429 (permalink)
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Mikemo,

It appears the posts on the Esprit forum are from March of 2007. They seem to be sticking up (some of them, at least) for some other modder who also did the TV in the headrest mod...you are apparently not alone.

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Apparently the Esprit Forum had a change of heart since 07, they don't think so highly of your screens anymore
You have to be kidding - Lotus Esprit Forum


If you look below at the link backs to this thread, you will notice that it has gone viral, so if attention is what you wanted from this, you sure got it
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:47 PM   #431 (permalink)
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Has anyone else noticed that if you run your hands along the back of the "headrest" on the Lotus Elise seat, that there is nowhere to put a tv monitor?

No foam.

Nothing but a bar of stiff plastic.

If he's got my seats, there's no way to put a TV monitor there.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:31 PM   #432 (permalink)
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but now you make me need one Ocean City Maryland
i hope you werent in ocean city on the 4th and 5th becuase i was there that weekend. To think that i could've really hunted you down or least seen the car . Then again its probably a good thing that we didnt spot you because i was with my friends and lets just say they really didnt like the idea of tv's in the headrest of a elise.

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^^ you fail.

he did not take the pictures him self, i did. i know the kid personally and we went to a local car meet together
Nope, You Fail

ehhh...what kind of a car meet was this???? that one wagon with the "chrome" rims made me throw up in my mouth.

I've been to a lot of car meets...and the cars at meets are nice, you want to look at them and go "i would like to do that mod in my car". Those cars in the pictures looked like they came from a junkyard....except for the elise. Least the people could've gotten a nice paint job
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you guys really dont get it. the car is not photoshopped. i put them up directly from my camera as you can see in the link i posted. if youd like i can make a video of a walk around of the car to prove that their are tvs in the car.

and one last question. why do you guys feel the need to hate on the poor kid just because of what he did to HIS car. I understand what you guys are saying about the ballin and all that **** and that its ricey and what not, but i dont understand how you guys dont get the whole point of the phrase "to each his own", its his car, his money, his tvs so if he likes them thats all that matters.

{edit} and yeah i know the rims on the accord wagon arent very nice, but i mean they kids saw me with my camera and asked if i could take pictures of their cars so me being me i was nice and said sure and took the pictures for them.
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Assuming the pictures are real, I am surprised by all of the hating going on here. Members here have the right to express their opinions on this, but there is no reason to be a-holes about it.

Clearly, the TVs are not for viewing while in the car. They were installed as a unique visual mod. Some owners paint their wheels, install rear wings, hood stripes, etc. He did TVs. I have seen worse things done to a Lotus. Would I do it to my car. No. But I am not going to attack him for trying to make his car unique.
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Old 07-07-2008, 09:14 PM   #435 (permalink)
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I'm DYING here I can't believe you guys are debating on whether or not they're real. They are. Just come to a meet I'm going to take 50 pictures of it and post them all up.
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Assuming the pictures are real, I am surprised by all of the hating going on here. Members here have the right to express their opinions on this, but there is no reason to be a-holes about it.

Clearly, the TVs are not for viewing while in the car. They were installed as a unique visual mod. Some owners paint their wheels, install rear wings, hood stripes, etc. He did TVs. I have seen worse things done to a Lotus. Would I do it to my car. No. But I am not going to attack him for trying to make his car unique.
As if people don't attack people all the time on websites.

Websites are mean, they are cruel, and people will attack you in hordes if they smell blood.

You're right, there is no reason to be an a-hole on a website.

But being that none of this is face to face conversation, and all of it is just written words, nobody really thinks that they are hurting someone's feelings.

Not on a website.

Trust me, I've been there and it hurts.

Hopefully this thread will go the way of all other threads.

It will vanish.

And only the guy who started the thread in the first place will remember all of the a-holes who attacked him.
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The guy has showed a lot of maturity accepting all the insults and jabs without lowering himself to the level of all the haters. I like the guy. What he does is fine by me.

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I Have a head unit pioneer with screen and two headrest t.v.'s Looks so nice at night time,i Also had a 10" square Kicker Solo Baric L7 Sub installed in the passenger floor area Sounds So good, i dont have pics of that yet but will soon, Let me know what you think
Apparently, every few pages people need reminding that he did ask for our opinion. He's certainly free to mod his Lotus any way he sees fit (observing local motor vehicle regulations, of course ). And we're free to reply with our solicited opinion.

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i had a place customly install it, they had to unstich the seat then add foam then restich, the main player is my headunit which also has a t.v.
Mikemo... it seems you just want to impress people with what you can pay other people to do. If you were really interested in opinions about the mod, you might consider posting clearer pictures, details of the work done, equipment used, etc. Most people here mod their own cars, and while I don't think many of us would consider headrest TV's... we might be interested in how it was done.

Otherwise, it's just wanking...
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The guy has showed a lot of maturity accepting all the insults and jabs without lowering himself to the level of all the haters. I like the guy.
I agree. He's been very cool about it.

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I wouldn't go THAT far.
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Simple photoshop job - you can tell from the very first photo.

If the displays were real, the tops and bottoms of them would be parallel to the top and bottom of the window/roof/rear deck (parallel to the green line in the photo below). Instead they are "horizontal" - not at the proper angle/perspective when looking at from a rear quarter view. And this is from the first time I looked at the photos in question.
Actually, you're wrong. Determining perspective is a simple matter of relativity to the camera.

The vanishing point / line is always at eye level, so any line at eye level will render horizontally in a photo. If you look at that photo, the tops of the monitors are at eye level, so a horizontal line for them is correct.

Conclusion: it's your green line that's off - you were fooled by the optical illusion of the Elise's curves in perspective.
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