Leftlane news Exige S coming to America! - LotusTalk

Adam · 09-26-2006, 04:39 PM

Sorry if it's a repost http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/...ng-to-america/

Lotus F1 · 09-26-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

Sorry if it's a repost http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/...ng-to-america/

All the trouble of a supercharger that Lotus went through just for 28hp?

zvezdah1 · 09-26-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus F1

All the trouble of a supercharger that Lotus went through just for 28hp?

But it'd be 28 hp that comes attached to a 3 year 36k warranty! I'm assuming these will be street legal or no?

Lotus F1 · 09-26-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by zvezdah1

But it'd be 28 hp that comes attached to a 3 year 36k warranty! I'm assuming these will be street legal or no?

Yeah I get it.... but certainly if all the components are there why not give it more horsepower

Allan Gibbs · 09-26-2006, 05:12 PM

So, the next generation Elise/Exige can have 240hp. Do throw all your technology in one product year or you'll have to spend more money later to give customers more power.

andykeck · 09-26-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus F1

Yeah I get it.... but certainly if all the components are there why not give it more horsepower

Maybe they were concerned about warrantying any more boost than that?

Lotus F1 · 09-26-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Allan Gibbs

So, the next generation Elise/Exige can have 240hp. Do throw all your technology in one product year or you'll have to spend more money later to give customers more power.

Ahhh, now that I'll buy.. good point

Buz · 09-26-2006, 05:22 PM

It has to last for 36000 miles of abuse. Also look at the P car power progression, it seems like every other year. That would be annoying unless you lease your fun car.

gobuffs · 09-26-2006, 05:30 PM

SC = more torque. Who cares about the added HP? WHat matters is the added torque.

ewalberg · 09-26-2006, 05:35 PM

considering the engine has only 138 ft-lb to start and 189hp in the 2nd cams, i'd say it could use some torque more than HP... especially for daily driving when you'd trying to not alert the police. that said it seems like not much, but then it's still just a little 1.8 liter motor in which 24hp is about 13% increase with factory warranttee. Durability, planned obsellescense, and engineering time available before something goes to market would be the 3 places i'd put my money on their rational for only 24hp gain.

PLUS! Once the super charger is already in there, getting more out of it is the "easy" part. It's squeeking power out of a naturally aspirated motor or getting a supercharger in the first place which seems to be the trickiest point based on reading here.

biggest gripe is it's only in the exige if you ask me, i'm not interested in that one.

andykeck · 09-26-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Buz

It has to last for 36000 miles of abuse. Also look at the P car power progression, it seems like every other year. That would be annoying unless you lease your fun car.

Actually, it has to go 100 or 150k without fault to pass the emissions compliance. Now that I give it some thought, it's likely that figure was way more important than the 36k warranty.

Val · 09-26-2006, 05:47 PM

http://www.komo-tec.com/index.php/cPath/128_167

xtn · 09-26-2006, 06:15 PM

Even though it is only a 28HP increase to the peak number, representing a 13% increase in the peak, it is safe to assume that the difference is as much or more in the mid range. You take the same 28HP increase and apply it let's say around 4K rpm, where the NA horsepower is probably about 100, and you're talking about a 28% increase in street cruizing power if not more! It should totally change the drivability of the car.

xtn

Lotus F1 · 09-26-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xtn

Even though it is only a 28HP increase to the peak number, representing a 13% increase in the peak, it is safe to assume that the difference is as much or more in the mid range. You take the same 28HP increase and apply it let's say around 4K rpm, where the NA horsepower is probably about 100, and you're talking about a 28% increase in street cruizing power if not more! It should totally change the drivability of the car.

xtn

Mmm, but can they do that. I would doubt they can add that much power at that low rpm's on the first cam

Flash G · 09-26-2006, 06:52 PM

So where are all of the doubters now who said it wasn't coming????

Lotusmotion · 09-26-2006, 07:53 PM

I would gauge the increase of 28 hp based on hp measured at the rear wheels instead of the engine...that is what you'll feel and actually get to use. It will be materially greater than 13%. As already mentioned, the real benefit will be torque rather than hp.

Donbecker · 09-26-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash G

So where are all of the doubters now who said it wasn't coming????

Sitting here with a salty taste in their mouth that they bought too early.

IMHO, it would have been a different story altogether had I not been told by every person connected to Lotus that it wasn't coming prior to purchase..or if news of the Exige S coming to the US also spoke of upgrades to existing cars.

Lotus, are you laughing with me or at me?

Stormy320 · 09-26-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Donbecker

Sitting here with a salty taste in their mouth that they bought too early.

IMHO, it would have been a different story altogether had I not been told by every person connected to Lotus that it wasn't coming prior to purchase..or if news of the Exige S coming to the US also spoke of upgrades to existing cars.

Lotus, are you laughing with me or at me?

I don't know whose been telling you - but I've been hearing for over a year now that it's coming. Perhaps it's just your perspective and what you wanted to hear.

shay2nak · 09-26-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Val

http://www.komo-tec.com/index.php/cPath/128_167

kick ass!! you can get additional hp from decat-ing the car.
Finally, a dyno of the 'S.'

I can't wait to get mine and start modding it!

xtn · 09-27-2006, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus F1

Mmm, but can they do that. I would doubt they can add that much power at that low rpm's on the first cam

Well I was just making up the numbers to show my point, so I don't know exactly. The numbers I used may be out of line. But the smaller cam should benefit from forced induction more than the bigger cam, percentage wise. And anyway it's safe to assume that with forced induction they could lower the cam change-over rpm a lot.

xtn

09-26-2006, 04:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
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09-26-2006, 05:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
ewalberg Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 805	what about the torque? considering the engine has only 138 ft-lb to start and 189hp in the 2nd cams, i'd say it could use some torque more than HP... especially for daily driving when you'd trying to not alert the police. that said it seems like not much, but then it's still just a little 1.8 liter motor in which 24hp is about 13% increase with factory warranttee. Durability, planned obsellescense, and engineering time available before something goes to market would be the 3 places i'd put my money on their rational for only 24hp gain. PLUS! Once the super charger is already in there, getting more out of it is the "easy" part. It's squeeking power out of a naturally aspirated motor or getting a supercharger in the first place which seems to be the trickiest point based on reading here. biggest gripe is it's only in the exige if you ask me, i'm not interested in that one.

09-26-2006, 06:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
xtn McLareghini Bugatterrari Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 6,894	Even though it is only a 28HP increase to the peak number, representing a 13% increase in the peak, it is safe to assume that the difference is as much or more in the mid range. You take the same 28HP increase and apply it let's say around 4K rpm, where the NA horsepower is probably about 100, and you're talking about a 28% increase in street cruizing power if not more! It should totally change the drivability of the car. xtn __________________ 2006 McLareghini Bugatterrari, Storm Titanium... <mods> installed: air horn, Scroth 4-point ASM harnesses, Sector111 halon extinguisher and mounting bracket, Von Hep exhaust and rear panel delete, Pagid brake pads, red Volks CE28n wheels, Toyo RA-1 tires, Nitron SA coilovers, Sector111 (WorksBell) quick-disconnect steering wheel kit. awaiting installation: Scroth "pull-up" lap belts, Sector111 RTD Brace, Tony's heater bypass mod, and dropped steering rack mounting plates. </mods>

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Lotusmotion Keep it simple and real Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 989	I would gauge the increase of 28 hp based on hp measured at the rear wheels instead of the engine...that is what you'll feel and actually get to use. It will be materially greater than 13%. As already mentioned, the real benefit will be torque rather than hp. __________________ '06 Exige - Ph. Black/Touring/Track/LSD/TC/SS. Mods: well aligned - X balanced - RTD brace - deshimmed - Pagid Blacks - Motul fluid - Manly inserts - transElixer - tow hooks - Schroth belts - extinguisher - Green Filter - Larini - oil gauges - gPan - wheel studs & lugs - AO48s & Rotas on track - T1Rs & LSS wheels on street - f/t rear camera & monitor - Stebel horn - Alpine speakers, JVC sub & iPod controller - DRL switch - aux. fuse panel - Braille battery.

09-26-2006, 05:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
Allan Gibbs Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Glendale, CA (formerly Gilbert, AZ) Posts: 5,506	So, the next generation Elise/Exige can have 240hp. Do throw all your technology in one product year or you'll have to spend more money later to give customers more power.

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Buz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,923	It has to last for 36000 miles of abuse. Also look at the P car power progression, it seems like every other year. That would be annoying unless you lease your fun car.

09-26-2006, 05:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
gobuffs Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 148	SC = more torque. Who cares about the added HP? WHat matters is the added torque.

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Val Nothing Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Moscow Posts: 2,001	http://www.komo-tec.com/index.php/cPath/128_167

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