New EPA Targets - LotusTalk

mpsalm · 05-12-2008, 10:54 AM

Eyes on the Road - WSJ.com

Most of the discussion of federal efforts to boost the average fuel efficiency of new vehicles to 35 mpg by 2015 has focused on how the new standard will do in large sport-utility vehicles. But high-performance cars -- particularly those sold by relatively small manufacturers such as Porsche, Lotus, Ferrari and Subaru -- are also targets of the proposed reforms to the CAFE regime.

Interesting article. Porsche may need to step up fuel economy to 41mpg by 2015. There's a big difference between managing to get 30mpg and getting 40+ especially in high powered cars. Looks like fines my be tacked on to sticker prices.

def · 05-12-2008, 11:01 AM

Too bad they can't average it in miles, ie I drive my 50mpg 80% of miles I drive, and 25mpg elise 20% of the time... I shouldn't have to pay fines!

Murix · 05-12-2008, 11:27 AM

As a company, Lotus is actually in a great position to make money on these new laws. Reduced weight and hybrid powertrains are going to play a large role in achieving these figures, both of which Lotus Engineering has already proving to have expertise in.

Dmbrown34 · 05-12-2008, 11:45 AM

Ive decided to start investing into companies that make racing glass. Its only a matter of time before congress allows it on street cars.

Auto manufactures will be forced to find lighter weight parts before too long. Glass to plastic is a very easy way to shed some blubber.

codymac · 05-12-2008, 12:31 PM

Looks like the classic car market is only going to keep going up then.

Allan Gibbs · 05-12-2008, 01:21 PM

Sounds like it will be an increase in the gas guzzler tax. Probably promote the delvopment of high performance hybrids which I think Porsche is working on.

VBCARGUY · 05-12-2008, 01:24 PM

I just can't get into the concept of a electric sports car. The sound of burning fossil fuels just does it for me.

LARRY · 05-12-2008, 01:51 PM

"EPA targets"...

For a minute I thought they were something you'd take to the rifle range.

fitfan · 05-12-2008, 01:58 PM

of course "full size trucks" will continue to be expempt no doubt. - and thoose are by volumn - the most destructive to on the road mean average MPG and emissions. the newer reg's are really punishing thoose that are doing great, and continue to subsidize the real problem makers. transportation trucking is a whole 'nother issue thats being dogged.

one escalade will have far more impact than a 1/2 dozen 911's - mean average of mpg and pollution.

05-12-2008, 10:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
mpsalm Funkyzeit Mit Bruno Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,044	New EPA Targets Eyes on the Road - WSJ.com Most of the discussion of federal efforts to boost the average fuel efficiency of new vehicles to 35 mpg by 2015 has focused on how the new standard will do in large sport-utility vehicles. But high-performance cars -- particularly those sold by relatively small manufacturers such as Porsche, Lotus, Ferrari and Subaru -- are also targets of the proposed reforms to the CAFE regime. Interesting article. Porsche may need to step up fuel economy to 41mpg by 2015. There's a big difference between managing to get 30mpg and getting 40+ especially in high powered cars. Looks like fines my be tacked on to sticker prices. __________________ 06' CO Exige BWR S/C, RAC Monolites, Pagid RS-14 Pads, Stage II Exhaust, Micro Mirror, Craftsquare CF Mirrors, 4tress Harness Bar, Schroth Harnesses, de-snorkel, Green Air Filter, Ecliptech Shift Light, Rear Panel Elim, Braille Battery, Halon Fire Extinguisher, Zeitronix Wideband, front and rear tow hooks, 1968 Mustang GT Fastback 97' 911 Carrera 4S (Sold, now in Stuttgart)

05-12-2008, 11:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
def ...ault Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,730	Too bad they can't average it in miles, ie I drive my 50mpg 80% of miles I drive, and 25mpg elise 20% of the time... I shouldn't have to pay fines! __________________ //kevin 05 Graphite Gray weekend car Red Touring / LSS / Starshield / Stage 2 / V1 / Multivex / Smaller rearview / Odyssey PC680 / HIDs / Folding tow hook / EBC Yellow 06 gray civic hybrid ... with carpool lane stickers!!!

05-12-2008, 11:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dmbrown34 Grrrrrr Baby Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,392	Ive decided to start investing into companies that make racing glass. Its only a matter of time before congress allows it on street cars. Auto manufactures will be forced to find lighter weight parts before too long. Glass to plastic is a very easy way to shed some blubber. __________________ 2005 Lotus Elise LSS 2003 Corvette 50th Anniversary Convertible www.LotusChallengeSeries.com

05-12-2008, 12:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
codymac short angry bloke Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: where the east tapers out and the west begins Posts: 8,428 Images: 19	Looks like the classic car market is only going to keep going up then. __________________ torque (tôrk) n. - an excuse for the lack of momentum. - let's bring back CanAm & Group B! - have you hugged your Exige today? I'm currently working on my performance driving merit badge. There's always somebody faster, sometimes it's me.

05-12-2008, 01:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
Allan Gibbs Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Glendale, CA (formerly Gilbert, AZ) Posts: 4,785	Sounds like it will be an increase in the gas guzzler tax. Probably promote the delvopment of high performance hybrids which I think Porsche is working on. __________________ 2005 BRP Elise- SOLD 6/9/07 2006 MV Agusta F4S 2008 Audi TT (MKII)

05-12-2008, 11:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
Murix Rotary Refugee Join Date: May 2007 Location: Santa Monica Posts: 505 Images: 3	As a company, Lotus is actually in a great position to make money on these new laws. Reduced weight and hybrid powertrains are going to play a large role in achieving these figures, both of which Lotus Engineering has already proving to have expertise in.

05-12-2008, 01:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
VBCARGUY Virginia Beach Car Guy Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 522	I just can't get into the concept of a electric sports car. The sound of burning fossil fuels just does it for me. __________________ Triumph Tr4a Race Car 1967 SOLD 1954 CJ 3b Willys 2002 Yukon Denali Daily Driver 2006 Exige. The only man in america to have a exige s then go back to a NA exige 1967 911S 1900lbs 220hp

05-12-2008, 01:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
LARRY It's a Lotus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beverly Hills, Ca. Posts: 10,850	"EPA targets"... For a minute I thought they were something you'd take to the rifle range. __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise, Sports Package, Touring Package, Hard Top, Stage II Exhaust "We know they're magical and worth every minute we spend on them. The whole Lotus owners' world is like a secret handshake among people who understand that." (R&T)

05-12-2008, 01:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
fitfan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego! Posts: 2,790	of course "full size trucks" will continue to be expempt no doubt. - and thoose are by volumn - the most destructive to on the road mean average MPG and emissions. the newer reg's are really punishing thoose that are doing great, and continue to subsidize the real problem makers. transportation trucking is a whole 'nother issue thats being dogged. one escalade will have far more impact than a 1/2 dozen 911's - mean average of mpg and pollution. __________________ Driving it around!

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