Official: Lotus Ups HP for '08 (Press Release) - LotusTalk

JonOrangeElise · 10-23-2007, 10:20 AM

Key Points
· 220 PS Supercharged Elise SC
· 240 PS Performance Package Exige
· Airbags standard across the whole Lotus range
· Instrument pack with new graphic design and increased functionality
· New alarm/immobiliser + single integrated function key
· Simplified option packs
· 2008 Model Year changes available from October 2007

Press Release attached...

Randy Chase · 10-23-2007, 10:24 AM

You were quick.

Finally the news comes out.

alexandertg4 · 10-23-2007, 10:30 AM

Perhaps I should have waited for my exige haha.

Murix · 10-23-2007, 10:31 AM

Interesting. They are using a smaller supercharger. It sounds like both the Elise SC and the Exige S without the performance pack will be using a non intercooled MP45 instead of the MP62.

It is also hard to tell how the option packages will play out here as we already airbags as well as some of the other stuff in the Federal Elise.

swaq · 10-23-2007, 10:35 AM

Great news!

JonOrangeElise · 10-23-2007, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

You were quick.

Finally the news comes out.

hahaha... and I was SHOCKED to see I was the first to post... I think I waited a whole 5-6 minutes!

shak · 10-23-2007, 10:45 AM

would this mean a further depreciation of older elise/exige?

scottyb · 10-23-2007, 10:48 AM

I assume that's 220 at the flywheel. Doesn't' the sector kit give you 215 at the rear wheel? If so the after market upgrades available are not only cheaper but have more power.

So hmm about 7K to buy and install Katona or 20K and up to trade in to a new Elise.

Am I missing something?

dez · 10-23-2007, 10:49 AM

Did I read that correctly, that air conditioning will be a stand alone option like T/C? Won't have to pay to delete it, then.

sleeprfocus · 10-23-2007, 10:49 AM

That puts the SCed Elise at 14% premium over the 111R. Rough estimate would be just over $50K for the Federal SC Elise, or $6000 premium, assuming the price increase carries over 1-to-1 to the US. That makes the pricing very competitive with aftermarket supercharger options especially considering you keep the full factory warranty.

sleeprfocus · 10-23-2007, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottyb

I assume that's 220 at the flywheel. Doesn't' the sector kit give you 215 at the rear wheel? If so the after market upgrades available are not only cheaper but have more power.

So hmm about 7K to buy and install Katona or 20K and up to trade in to a new Elise.

Am I missing something?

From what I've heard the Lotus dyno numbers for their SC cars are generally closer to wheel HP, not crank. The Exige S dynoed on this board all were very close to 220 whp, so I assume the SC Elise would be similar.

If you already own an Elise it's most definitely cheaper to SC it yourself than trade up, the major tradeoff is warranty.

mopho · 10-23-2007, 10:53 AM

And now for the bad news.......

It has big black bumpers and weighs 2800lbs

greenbluff · 10-23-2007, 10:53 AM

I guess this means the 05's have now moved into the "classic" category

.

Jim

milehitom · 10-23-2007, 10:53 AM

to Lotus for clearly paying close attention to the customer wish list. I'm still leaning toward an aftermarket sc for my '05, though...

Tom

Allan Gibbs · 10-23-2007, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shak

would this mean a further depreciation of older elise/exige?

Yes, but if you're looking at upgrading, Lotus' owner loyal program would help soften that hit.

shak · 10-23-2007, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allan Gibbs

Yes, but if you're looking at upgrading, Lotus' owner loyal program would help soften that hit.

I am looking to gab an 05 hopefully somewhere in the ballpark of high 20's. As mch as the depreciation sucks for the current owners geting rid of theirs, its saving me a furtune

Ruchmate · 10-23-2007, 10:59 AM

All the more reason to buy a supercharger for my 05 elise now!!

andrewgotanelise · 10-23-2007, 11:03 AM

"Supercharged Elise SC, a 220 PS version of the multi award-winning roadster, easily identified by its new rear spoiler and unique new design of alloy road wheels."

I want to see what the spoiler looks like my guess its a carry over from the 72D, but the allow wheels will be intresting to see!

Also

Performance Pack – more punch, more ability for Exige S
· 308 mm front cross-drilled and vented discs with AP Racing four piston callipers
· Uprated front and rear brake pads
· Full length upsized roof scoop
· Variable slip traction control
· Uprated clutch plate and cover
· Uprated vehicle performance through enhanced power and torque delivery
· Launch control

Launch control will be intresting too see i still dont understand why the 220 PS elise and the 220PS exige have different performance and the performance benefitting the exige, even though it was more. Im confused. I understand that the elise is using a smaller eaton supercharger so that could be it and I am guessing it is that and an ecu de tune. Any other thoughts?

MattG · 10-23-2007, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shak

would this mean a further depreciation of older elise/exige?

Doubtful. The price of the Elise SC will surely increase, making an older Elise look like a relative bargain. If anything, the Elise SC will rekindle interest in the cars (magazine reviews, etc), and people who can't quite afford a new SC will look at picking up a low mileage used Elise and adding an aftermarket SC to it.

Nathan · 10-23-2007, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopho

And now for the bad news.......

It has big black bumpers and weighs 2800lbs

news release says elise is 19xx pounds.

10-23-2007, 10:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
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10-23-2007, 10:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
dez Threat Level Orange Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 241	Did I read that correctly, that air conditioning will be a stand alone option like T/C? Won't have to pay to delete it, then. __________________ "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough" - Mario Andretti

10-23-2007, 10:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
sleeprfocus Every Car is a Project Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 950	That puts the SCed Elise at 14% premium over the 111R. Rough estimate would be just over $50K for the Federal SC Elise, or $6000 premium, assuming the price increase carries over 1-to-1 to the US. That makes the pricing very competitive with aftermarket supercharger options especially considering you keep the full factory warranty. __________________ 2005 Lotus Elise - ForcedFed 340, and I still want (a little) more power! 2002 Ford Focus SVT - 4.6L V8 RWD conversion, twice the cylinders and half the sense.

10-23-2007, 10:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
mopho goofn' with the bees Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: out of a suitcase- my stuff lives in LA Posts: 5,485	And now for the bad news....... It has big black bumpers and weighs 2800lbs __________________ ________________ 2004 Caterham 7 Superlight R - 67 Lotus Elan (sold) www.morgansegal.com www.socalsportscar.com

10-23-2007, 10:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
alexandertg4 King Alexander Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Orange County, Ca Posts: 891	Perhaps I should have waited for my exige haha.

10-23-2007, 10:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
Murix Rotary Refugee Join Date: May 2007 Location: Santa Monica Posts: 1,023 Images: 3	Interesting. They are using a smaller supercharger. It sounds like both the Elise SC and the Exige S without the performance pack will be using a non intercooled MP45 instead of the MP62. It is also hard to tell how the option packages will play out here as we already airbags as well as some of the other stuff in the Federal Elise.

10-23-2007, 10:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
shak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 100	would this mean a further depreciation of older elise/exige?

10-23-2007, 10:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
scottyb Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,734	I assume that's 220 at the flywheel. Doesn't' the sector kit give you 215 at the rear wheel? If so the after market upgrades available are not only cheaper but have more power. So hmm about 7K to buy and install Katona or 20K and up to trade in to a new Elise. Am I missing something?

10-23-2007, 10:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
greenbluff Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: los gatos, CA Posts: 308	I guess this means the 05's have now moved into the "classic" category . Jim

10-23-2007, 10:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
milehitom Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,274	to Lotus for clearly paying close attention to the customer wish list. I'm still leaning toward an aftermarket sc for my '05, though... Tom

10-23-2007, 10:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
Ruchmate I'd rather be doing vvv Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 218	All the more reason to buy a supercharger for my 05 elise now!!

10-23-2007, 11:03 AM	#18 (permalink)
andrewgotanelise MMA Fighter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Where the drugs are cheap and the girls are easy Posts: 1,265	"Supercharged Elise SC, a 220 PS version of the multi award-winning roadster, easily identified by its new rear spoiler and unique new design of alloy road wheels." I want to see what the spoiler looks like my guess its a carry over from the 72D, but the allow wheels will be intresting to see! Also Performance Pack – more punch, more ability for Exige S · 308 mm front cross-drilled and vented discs with AP Racing four piston callipers · Uprated front and rear brake pads · Full length upsized roof scoop · Variable slip traction control · Uprated clutch plate and cover · Uprated vehicle performance through enhanced power and torque delivery · Launch control Launch control will be intresting too see i still dont understand why the 220 PS elise and the 220PS exige have different performance and the performance benefitting the exige, even though it was more. Im confused. I understand that the elise is using a smaller eaton supercharger so that could be it and I am guessing it is that and an ecu de tune. Any other thoughts? Last edited by andrewgotanelise; 10-23-2007 at 11:12 AM.

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