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Old 06-02-2010, 04:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ok... So why Lotus?

So.... why Lotus?

Why did you guys spend your 30k or greater on a mid engine go-kart? What makes you LOVE Lotus? Am I the only one who calls random (ugly) girls at the bar by my car's name to make them seem remotely interesting? Why not get a BMW? (If I hear the last one again.... one word. Columbine)

Why did I get one? I am 20 years old, kinda wealthy (for my age), single and I hate all of my friends.

I personally expect every answer to be the same as mine, for I am curtain that everyone here is young, has some cash to throw around, single and hates their friends... At least on the inside.

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First off: Sorry about the "some what negative" post about age/wealth. I did not mean for that to be a focus of this discussion. I simply posted it to give you guys an insight about my current position in life. I am no where near rich, but compared to other kids my age, I am better off.

Because of this nature, my friends always used me, I won't go into detail... but we all know the feeling.

---With that, lets forgot the entire comment.---

The REAL reason why I thought lotus was simple. Joy.

The funny thing is I first heard of Lotus thru the Tesla Roadster! I fell in love with the body and then only to find out it was made by a different company. Because of that it really got me into cars and discovered the best TV show of all time (Top Gear) while everyone has those phases "BMW is the best" 2 days later "No Lambo" Lotus has always put a smile on my face.

I even remember the first time I saw a Lotus. I would not let the driver leave with my endless bombardment of questions.

Anyways.... The lotus is perfect for me, the only driving I do is on the weekends (for fun) and for school, but thats only September - April (for the winter I plan on taking the Bus... like I did last year)

I have a new question for everyone.... What is the best thing about *your* Lotus. I LOVE taking the lotus out and having small kids gauk at it, quickly running up to my car and asking for a ride. (Which I do, if I am not busy and with parental permission.)

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I bought my Lotus for two reasons really; the fact that it's the closest vehicle in the world to being a true sports-car, and as a photography muse. I never drive the car hard, but I appreciate the way it moves nonetheless.

P.S. I'm 39, upper middle-class, and don't hate my friends.
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So.... why Lotus?

Why did you guys spend your 30k or greater on a mid engine go-kart? What makes you LOVE Lotus? Am I the only one who calls random (ugly) girls at the bar by my car's name to make them seem remotely interesting? Why not get a BMW? (If I hear the last one again.... one word. Columbine)

Why did I get one? I am 20 years old, kinda wealthy (for my age), single and I hate all of my friends.

I personally expect every answer to be the same as mine, for I am curtain that everyone here is young, has some cash to throw around, single and hates their friends... At least on the inside.
If your reasons are as listed above, I think you bought the wrong car.
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Aside from just the enjoyment of driving the car, I enjoy the heritage. I love knowing the badge on the nose has adorned F1 Constructor's Champions, Indy Champ, class winners at LeMans, etc. etc. etc.

I've owned 9, so far. Don't know that I can really articulate why. There are a lot of rational reasons why not to. But there you have it.
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Old 06-02-2010, 05:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have no idea what your post means.

But I'll play.

I'm 39 - will be 40 in November. I've ALWAYS wanted a toy - a fun sportscar. I debated on an old car, but frankly, I'm not a wrench monkey. The key for me was getting the spousal unit to say yes. We have 7 year old twins and a 7 month old baby. She got the baby, I got the car!! Seriously though, if I bought a car that would have me in the garage 4 hours a night when there's important stuff to do at home, PLUS my work travel, that would get real old real quick.

I would say I'm 'fairly' wealthy. I make a very nice mid 6 figures living even in a crap economy. I own our daily home, our city condo (which we had before we got married) and a lake home. So, if I wiggled things here and there, I could have probably bought a used Ferrari or some such thing.

The reasons I bough the Lotus:

- it will be a fun tool around/weekend car (I live in Chicago), not a TRACK car so exotic and interesting was key.

- it's a head turner like no other. Seriously, EVERYONE thinks this car is $150K. EVERYONE puts it in the same boat as a Lambo or Ferrari. They have no idea that (used) this is a $30K car and costs LESS than my next door neighbors Honda Odyssey minivan.

- It's so damn fun to drive it should be illegal.

- It can be easily modded for relatively little money.

- For all their quirks, Elises are very reliable. That was a biggie for me, as noted above - I can't spend all weekend under the hood of an old car that is always breaking.

Think about it. What other car - weekend sports car toy - gets you all of that for $30K? Answer - NO other car. They simply don't exist.

As for the other comments? My daily driver is a BMW X5 so there ya go.
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"Why did I get one? I am 20 years old, kinda wealthy (for my age), single and I hate all of my friends. "

Sounds more like reasons to own a new Camaro or Mustang. You own a car like this to drive it, take pride in the name, track it, race it. You bought for all the wrong reasons as others have pointed out. Hope that insurance at 20 years old for an Elise does not make you kinda un-wealthy too soon ; )
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Cause I'm 49 and hate all of you!! plus I don't have to take Viagra (bad for my heart) I just seat in my car for 5 minutes...
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I personally expect every answer to be the same as mine, ...
Fascinating OP. From what I've observed the Lotus community is hardly yet another "me too" car club. Owners are diverse in backgrounds and aren't necessarily terribly bent on showing off their warez to anyone that will listen. Yes there are the show-offs desperate for attention, but they aren't the typical demographic.

I bought my Lotus because it represented everything I believe a sports car should be; sexy, visceral, minimal, efficient, and capable. I enjoy driving and take solace in a well setup chassis. I enjoy it because it is what I feel an ideal sports car is; not wasteful, not frivolous, pompous, or poseur, but pure, exciting, and uninsulated. Frankly I don't enjoy the abundant attention the car garners from people although seeing their reactions are amusing on occasion. People swerving to take a cell-camera pictures on the road are annoying.

I'm 30, partnered, DINK, make a decent living with hard work, and like it that way. I don't hate my friends, otherwise they wouldn't be my friends, now would they?!

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because an evo wasnt raw enough.
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Why ask why, just do.
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Well I'm 26 and I wouldn't say I'm wealthy, but I'm not poor either. I'm pretty much saving my ass off so I can get an Exige at the end of the year. I have plenty of friends I like. The reason I want one is because it is a pure sports car that wants to be driven.... and you know what? I want to drive it. :P
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It's one of the best looking cars on the road; inside and out... Who doesn't love the sparten interior?

The streets aren't flooded with them like Porsche's are... (no offense to Porche owners)

Love the reliability and the fact it can be driven daily (and I do!)

Lastly, it's beyond affordable and nearly a damn steal.

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LOTUS is not for you! My lotus didnt cost 30k either...more like 70k thats 40k more unless you get one used but your warranty may be out and it costs a lot if things dont work right so if your thinking abt only spending 30k be ready to spend more later..i think BMW suits you 1 and 3 series are dirt cheap with 4 years free service..people who drive lotuses dont really hate people much but appreciate the small things including power windows hehe...
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I have an 05 Elise and my 09 BMW X5 is my daily driver.

X5 was $20K more than the Elise.

When I switch from my Elise to my X5, I feel that it's such a dropoff. Like going out with the head cheerleader on Friday and then the reasonably cute tuba player from the marching band!!
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I bought it because it was the best performing car I could get in my price range ($20k). I wanted a play car that I could abuse the snot out of, and not feel bad about it.

Now all my friends hate me.
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I'm 25, dont have enough money to throw around, and dont hate my friends. Hence, I'm working towards buying an elise but dont have one yet.

But as to why a lotus...6 years ago I stumbled onto a 1986 Toyota MR2. Knowing nothing about cars at the time, a friend picked it out and told me to buy it. Since then, I've fallen in love with small, lightweight, mid engined cars that connect with the driver. So it's only logical that my next step be to Lotus to get a newer, sexier, more reliable, and more powerful car than my 160HP MR2.
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I've owned 9, so far. Don't know that I can really articulate why. There are a lot of rational reasons why not to. But there you have it.
Yikes!! You Owned 9, Do you sell Lotus by any chance? No kid seriously, stick to your BMW, I know you'll hate getting lower back pain at age 20...
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Based on your response, I can't say I know you, but I have a guess that you are not as negative as you sound. It sounds like you are just curious as to why we are all so crazy to purchase a vehicle that has Almost nothing, but still gives EVERYTHING that a true driver could ever ask for.

Hate my friends, no. I thoroughly enjoy my friends and the time that we spend. Most of us are car junkies in our own way anyway, and so it is fun to see what each person has, drives, and spend time driving together.

Why the Lotus...well when in the market, I drove an Audi S5, Audi S4, BMW M3, Porsche Cayman, and numerous others, and they all left me with the same feeling. Blah. The cars had SO much technology in it, that driving it did not actually feel like driving it. For example the new Audi S5 is so TECHNOLOGICALLY integrated that the car will automatically counter steer the vehicle if you are in a slide, and yet you will have NO clue that it just did it. Audi technicians proved it to me. With me being a driving enthusiast, that did not thrill me in anyway. Sure technologically cool, but truthfully, for me, that bites. So there is the first thing, it is a TRUE driver's sports car.

Now there is an economical side to me as well. So, then I consider all the vehicles up above against the lotus and look at gas mileage, reliability, and cost of repairs/maintance. And sorry to say, but the Lotus beats them all HANDS down on that one. So far in my elise, when I am being SUPER conservative in my driving I have averaged as high as 40 mpg on the highway, and as low as 29 mpg for fun driving. My wife's Jetta gets 31 on high...so that sealed that day, because NONE of the cars above even come close to matching that kind of gas mileage. The cost of repairs, that is a no brainer. My mother in law has a BMW 325 Xi, costs for parts is ridiculous and working on it yourself can not be very fun. Just rebuilt a 2000 Audi S4, and don't ever want to do that again.

So then that brings it down to the fact that the car is gorgeous, turns heads EVERY where I go, most people have enough respect not to try to race you, but to just admire that which you drive...and you gotta love the fact that taking a 180 degree corner rated at 30 mph at 70 mph is just AMAZINGLY cool. EVEN my wife, who is very cautious, enjoyed taking a 270 degree off ramp rated at 50mph at 75mph, and not even realizing that she was going that fast. It brought the largest grin to her face, and she is not a driving enthusist such as myself.

So those are the reasons...oh yeah, and of all the cars there, it was the one my wife and I could both agree to when it came to looks/styling. And I do throughly enjoy the soft top and hard top feature on the car is very nice.

Sure when it comes to creature comforts (i.e. videos, GPS, AMAZING a/c, etc...) the car is not the best. When it comes to driving comfort and just enjoying the car, it in my mind can not be beat.

And as for my friends, not one of them has even hesistated to ask for a ride, and I can't help but smile and say, ABSOLUTELY, it doesn't take much to get me to want to drive it...all you have to do is ask.

But in the end, the answer to your question can only be answered by you, as the question is really, why did you purchase it...and I don't think it is for the reasons you listed. Good luck on finding your answer.

Oh Yeah, and I am 31, sold my 2000 Ford Ranger, 1999 Audi A4, 1986 Honda Magna, Both VW Super Beetles, and I am now driving around a 1986 Nissan P/U and so wanted to add a little fun in my life. The wife OK'd it, I got her to clear the $30k to spend, and I went shopping.

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So.... why Lotus?

Why did you guys spend your 30k or greater on a mid engine go-kart? What makes you LOVE Lotus? Am I the only one who calls random (ugly) girls at the bar by my car's name to make them seem remotely interesting? Why not get a BMW? (If I hear the last one again.... one word. Columbine)

Why did I get one? I am 20 years old, kinda wealthy (for my age), single and I hate all of my friends.

I personally expect every answer to be the same as mine, for I am curtain that everyone here is young, has some cash to throw around, single and hates their friends... At least on the inside.

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I'm almost 40 and just recently started making enough money to purchase toys. I think bang for the buck the lotus is the best deal to be had when you factor that one of the most distinguished pedigrees of any sports car out there.

Ever since the elise first came to the US I knew I had to have one... I totally get the performance through reduced weight philosophy as my fair weather ride is a sport bike and I am always doing things to lighten the load with that.
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