Question about Ardent Red? - LotusTalk

Stig · 10-18-2009, 07:04 PM

So I've been browsing the vast quantity of images on this site, and it seems to me that Ardent Red is somewhat inconsistent, in some pictures, it appears to be very red, bold and vivid. In some pictures it looks almost pink. In others it appears to be a slightly faded red/almost orange. I was just wondering which of these is the most true to life, and if the optional starshield has anything to do with these inconsistencies. Ardent Red is one of my favorite colors for the Elise, (along with starlight black and arctic silver), and I was just hoping someone could clear this up for me.

zygotesoup · 10-18-2009, 07:06 PM

ardent red is just a basic red. not pink, not faded, not orange... star shield makes no difference... its just plain old red

cdn_alien · 10-18-2009, 07:11 PM

Ardent Red is your typical bright vivid red, and is one of the base colors. Chili Red has orange flakes in it, and can look orangy in bright sunlight. Chili Red is no longer available on new cars. I don't think there are any Lotus colors that look pinkish in any way, with the possible exception of 2009/10. I think the Evora may have a new pink color for 2010.

AnsisK · 10-18-2009, 07:17 PM

The inconsistencies you are seeing are from the variety of cameras. I don't know digital sensor technology well enough, but it seems as if reds are tougher to capture than other colours.

Chris Mackey · 10-18-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AnsisK

The inconsistencies you are seeing are from the variety of cameras. I don't know digital sensor technology well enough, but it seems as if reds are tougher to capture than other colours.

This.

Stig · 10-18-2009, 09:34 PM

thanks, that explains it. I think that the ones I thought were pink looking may have actually been "Candy Red" which is one of the exclusive colors. Thanks for clearing that up.

AnsisK · 10-19-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Stig

thanks, that explains it. I think that the ones I thought were pink looking may have actually been "Candy Red" which is one of the exclusive colors. Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm still more inclined to think that it is the camera showing the pink. There are only what, 3 Candy Red cars in the US?

Check out Ardent Red in person, it's quite saturated red. It kind of makes the car look a bit bigger, too.

Southernguy · 10-19-2009, 05:37 AM

Ardent Red is 99.99% the same as Toyota Super Red that they used a couple of years back as their "Red" for corollas etc

DeanCPA · 10-19-2009, 05:51 AM

Before I bought it I was wondering just what shade of red it was. In my opinion Lotus got the color just right - not pink, not orange, just a "pure" red. I agree that you should see it in person before deciding.

lotusforsale · 10-19-2009, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCPA

Before I bought it I was wondering just what shade of red it was. In my opinion Lotus got the color just right - not pink, not orange, just a "pure" red. I agree that you should see it in person before deciding.

To me it's very close to the Calypso Red Lotus used on Esprits for years.

vincesf · 10-19-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AnsisK

The inconsistencies you are seeing are from the variety of cameras. I don't know digital sensor technology well enough, but it seems as if reds are tougher to capture than other colours.

+1

vincesf

chuck_risen · 10-19-2009, 10:03 AM

These are a set of Ardent Red covers we just sent to Greece.

Flash G · 10-20-2009, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AnsisK

The inconsistencies you are seeing are from the variety of cameras. I don't know digital sensor technology well enough, but it seems as if reds are tougher to capture than other colours.

Cameras also make the Yellow cars look orange.

If you look at them in person, the paint is pretty consistent between the Ardent red cars.

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LotinElite · 10-20-2009, 09:50 AM

The lighting has a significant effect on the color as well. In bright sunlight it's a bold red, really looks good. That gets muted with cloud cover.

hidesertnm · 11-10-2009, 08:51 AM

I just purchased an ardent red '05. If you look at some autotrader or ebay pics (particularly of private sellers) the color sometimes appears different or faded. I think that's more likely due to bright sunlight and/or poor photography. If the photo is done well and digitally, ardent red looks very red. Check out car anyway. L

goelise · 11-10-2009, 10:47 AM

Ardent Red pic taken on a sunny day with a Nikon:

with some shade from trees:

nighttime, no flash:

Paul O · 11-11-2009, 01:50 PM

Cracking shots, really amazing and your paintwork is mint. I'd post some of my shots but I've no idea how!

10-18-2009, 07:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Stig Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 8	Question about Ardent Red? So I've been browsing the vast quantity of images on this site, and it seems to me that Ardent Red is somewhat inconsistent, in some pictures, it appears to be very red, bold and vivid. In some pictures it looks almost pink. In others it appears to be a slightly faded red/almost orange. I was just wondering which of these is the most true to life, and if the optional starshield has anything to do with these inconsistencies. Ardent Red is one of my favorite colors for the Elise, (along with starlight black and arctic silver), and I was just hoping someone could clear this up for me.

10-18-2009, 07:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
zygotesoup Resident Drunk Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,225	ardent red is just a basic red. not pink, not faded, not orange... star shield makes no difference... its just plain old red __________________ 2005 BADA55 Lotus Elise 1993 Black BMW 325i 2000 Solar Yellow MR-S - SOLD 1987 White on White Porsche 944 Turbo - SOLD 1993 Maroon Lexus SC400 - SOLD

10-18-2009, 07:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
cdn_alien Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 323	Ardent Red is your typical bright vivid red, and is one of the base colors. Chili Red has orange flakes in it, and can look orangy in bright sunlight. Chili Red is no longer available on new cars. I don't think there are any Lotus colors that look pinkish in any way, with the possible exception of 2009/10. I think the Evora may have a new pink color for 2010. __________________ Current: '06 Chili Red Elise, '06 Infiniti M35 Sold: '03 Nissan 350Z , '00 BMW 325Ci, '99 Miata, '90 Miata

10-18-2009, 07:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
AnsisK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,457	The inconsistencies you are seeing are from the variety of cameras. I don't know digital sensor technology well enough, but it seems as if reds are tougher to capture than other colours. __________________ Cut me I'd bleed Lotus. -Gordon Murray Quiet Noises

10-19-2009, 10:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
chuck_risen Director of Engineering Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: I live in Glen Ellyn IL, a suburb of Chicago. Posts: 922	This is Ardent Red These are a set of Ardent Red covers we just sent to Greece. Attached Images __________________ Customized Automotive Resonating Systems http://www.carsaudioservices.com/

10-18-2009, 09:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
Stig Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 8	thanks, that explains it. I think that the ones I thought were pink looking may have actually been "Candy Red" which is one of the exclusive colors. Thanks for clearing that up.

10-19-2009, 05:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
Southernguy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 112	Ardent Red is 99.99% the same as Toyota Super Red that they used a couple of years back as their "Red" for corollas etc

10-19-2009, 05:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
DeanCPA Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Shoreline, CT Posts: 77	Before I bought it I was wondering just what shade of red it was. In my opinion Lotus got the color just right - not pink, not orange, just a "pure" red. I agree that you should see it in person before deciding.

10-20-2009, 09:50 AM	#14 (permalink)
LotinElite Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Upstate Posts: 231	The lighting has a significant effect on the color as well. In bright sunlight it's a bold red, really looks good. That gets muted with cloud cover. __________________ 05 AR Elise, Sport, Touring, HT, Starshield

11-10-2009, 08:51 AM	#15 (permalink)
hidesertnm Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico Posts: 22	I just purchased an ardent red '05. If you look at some autotrader or ebay pics (particularly of private sellers) the color sometimes appears different or faded. I think that's more likely due to bright sunlight and/or poor photography. If the photo is done well and digitally, ardent red looks very red. Check out car anyway. L

11-10-2009, 10:47 AM	#16 (permalink)
goelise AR #1275 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 2,527 Images: 1	Ardent Red pic taken on a sunny day with a Nikon: with some shade from trees: nighttime, no flash: __________________ '06 Ardent Red Elise - black interior with LSS, Touring, HT, Starshield, Lotus Sport Clutch, Moroso Oil Pan, 2ZZ(#2), Ekological HIDs, Lotus Driving Lights, Stebel Horn, Bootie, Razo '06 Pedal mod,Snorkel Delete,Odyssey 680 with s111 bracket. Future Mods:LETSLA (ordered), Rear toe link brace Thank you FVMC! WOO-HOO!

11-11-2009, 01:50 PM	#17 (permalink)
Paul O Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hampshire(not new!), England Posts: 15	Cracking shots, really amazing and your paintwork is mint. I'd post some of my shots but I've no idea how!

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