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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 12-09-2004, 12:57 PM Thread Starter
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Beware of Dave Bean

I am just finishing up having my 73 Europa TC restored. It's been at Ragtops and Roadsters in PA for about 10 months now, and they've done some really nice work. I had bought a set of front and rear British Leyland brake servos from Dave Bean Engineering...a Lotus parts "specialist" to replace my faulty Girling Brakes (imagine that). It was about a year ago, when I had started the restoration. The car was about done and the guys doing the work took it for a test drive. They brake servos are no good. They are seized. Now these were brand new parts and the car has never been driven since they were installed. The parts were $600, and the labor nearly $1000. I called the guys at Dave Bean and told them the situation. They will not stand behind their parts. I'm out $1600, plus I have to pay to get new ones and have the work done all over again. How unprofessional can you be?! There's not a whole lot I can do I guess, but if writing this on a Lotus site keeps a few people from buying parts from these idiots I'll feel a little better. Stick with RD Enterprises for Lotus parts, they're good people.

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Wow, I have delt with Dave Bean since way back when he was in Santa Barbara (Gollita to be exact) and I never have had an issue with him. What rational did he give you for not standing behind the parts? Did the servos seize as a result of sitting for a year?
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He said it was too long since i bought them. But the car was undergoing restoration, which takes some time. There's no reason the servos should have seized that fast. My guess is they were no good when I got them. The Girling servos tend to seize when sitting for a while. The British Lockhead parts are a better quality and don't have the same issues. The guys working on my car seemed surprised that they were unwilling to do anything about this. I don't care if they just rebuild the ones I have, I don't need new ones. But no, I'm SOL. I just told the guys at Ragtops, whatever they do, don't put any parts from Dave Bean on my car. They won't get another dime out of me.

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I have also never had any problems with Dave Bean standing behind their products. But I will admit that I prefer to buy my parts from Jeff at JAE, with Ray at RD Enterprises and Tingle's close runner ups. And don't forget Sports Car World in Texas for those unobtainum parts (lots of used parts there). Then again, it's been years since I bought anything from Dave Bean's...

Dave Bean is the "official" Lotus parts supplier for older Lotus (Elan, Europas, etc.). LCU used to supply factory parts, but that operation was sold to Dave Bean a few years ago...

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Never had a problem with Bean, to be fair, you bought the parts a year ago, possibly they could have seized from moisture etc over the past year sitting on a shelf???
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They were the first thing done in the restoration project, so they've been on the car the whole time.

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I've been buy parts from Dave Bean for over 25 years and have always found him to stand behind his stuff.
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I've had similar problems with Bean in the past. The guy I dealt with there on Europas was nice enough though and pleasant to deal with...but when a similar parts issues arose, I was SOL from his higher ups.

If you buy anything from them inspect it IMMEDIATELY and if possible INSTALL and TEST it. Hmm then again if you install it you might own it. Be careful and ask questions before a purchase if have a concern. Get stuff in writing. Lots of these parts sat for years in the UK, and then even more years in the USA, but if you let it sit more than about 30 days on your end you may have an issue if something comes up because YOU let it sit!!

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