Cowardly censors - LotusTalk

BRTHTAKR · 10-30-2009, 06:25 PM

Removing Keith's obituary thread from active topics without explanation says volumes.

lotus69f2 · 10-30-2009, 06:45 PM

It does seem odd.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f68/...-banned-80347/

cory1000 · 10-30-2009, 07:32 PM

Keith and 257 others have moved on to talk about Lotus someone else...

fitfan · 10-30-2009, 07:43 PM

Thats right - i
Am over there now. will stop
Logging in here...
Keith was a good guy, at least let him post, if not sell...
Lame! i type this i stare at a banners
Of wrestling gear??? and the hardrock casino??
Thats silly?
Usually don't notice when things change
Slowly... then come back here its like - wow -

BRTHTAKR · 10-30-2009, 07:46 PM

And how does one become 258th?

"I am not a number, I am a free man!"

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Demonized · 10-30-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BRTHTAKR

And how does one become 258th?

"I am not a number, I am a free man!"

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ggelise · 10-30-2009, 07:53 PM

AWESOME on my way

Demonized · 10-30-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ggelise

Where is everybody going? SELOC MM and Exige.com etc are cool but am I missing something?

A member needs to start a new site without the FIA style BS.

Above ya.

Demonized · 10-30-2009, 08:40 PM

Amusingly this thread no-longer shows up under active topics.

glb · 10-30-2009, 08:43 PM

Re: Letting keith post but not advertise

I can see LT's position a bit. Wouldn't they have to monitor Keith's posts if they allowed this?

He's a real good guy and we'll miss him, but I can see both sides of this.

Demonized · 10-30-2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glb

Re: Letting keith post but not advertise

I can see LT's position a bit. Wouldn't they have to monitor Keith's posts if they allowed this?

He's a real good guy and we'll miss him, but I can see both sides of this.

I was under the impression that this site was initially made without the intent to make money off suppliers for our limited number of cars...

Lancia · 10-30-2009, 09:29 PM

Aren't his old posts gone now?
Shame

what happened to usloc anyway?

RacyTracy · 10-30-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonized

I was under the impression that this site was initially made without the intent to make money off suppliers for our limited number of cars...

It was.....when Randy owned it. He sold to Autoforms for a significant amount of money. It is certainly understandable that they would expect to make money off their investment.

Randy Chase · 10-30-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lancia

Aren't his old posts gone now?
Shame

what happened to usloc anyway?

Steve is an interesting guy. Great guy really.... but he is better at starting things than continuing them (IMO). He had some ideas about what the ultimate community forum consisted of. I often did not agee with his concept.

glb · 10-30-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonized

I was under the impression that this site was initially made without the intent to make money off suppliers for our limited number of cars...

I am not that altruistic, is all I know.

lotusport · 11-05-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lotus69f2

It does seem odd.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f68/...-banned-80347/

Very odd, indeed. I just tried to access this link and got the following:

Quote:

lotusport, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

I recently sent the following PM to Administrator:

Quote:

They are removed from posting ONLY if their account is found to be in arrears, and at that point they are contacted first with their posting privilege revoked at a later date.

Recently, an audit was done on the site, and some vendors posting privilege was removed due to non-payment. Keep in mind the accounts of the vendors removed during this time were well overdue and considered very delinquent by any well accepted standard. This policy was implemented due to the fact that we are trying to be fair and help out the vendors that ARE paying to advertise here. We don't want non-paying vendors advertising when others pay for the same privilege.

It is unfortunate the myth was perpetuated that vendors are banned unjustly by some erroneous threads on this site, but it seems the damage has been done. If anybody has any questions about the rules or policies of Lotustalk.com, feel free to PM me and I will answer your inquiries. I look forward to having a discussion with any members with questions. Thanks.

No questions, Nadeem, just a critical observation:

It serves no purpose other than punitive retribution to revoke posting privileges to vendors in arrears. It is an irony that you removed SweetDaddyD from posting privileges, yet his banner ad for Chuforia Graphics remained for quite some time. What are you really trying to do? I'd suspect that there was something further behind removing his posting privileges.

It would seem reasonable to suspend the advertiser's ads, but removing posting privileges makes you suspect in reasonable observers' eyes. You might want to re-think your rationalization above...because that's all it is: rationalization. It is very poorly thought out.

Wonder if I'll soon be banned altogether. Oh well, this forum is rapidly losing my interest. I'll be around on Lotus Ltd's forum...

the1sen · 11-05-2009, 11:40 PM

Nadene, You must always remember that nothing positive can come from adding more negativity to an already negative situation.

Say what you will about whatever and whomever you wish. The fact is, Nadene, you are wrong. There are many more people who see that and have moved on accordingly. It isn't a SINGLE person you've offended so. It is an entire community.

As for me, I hope you live to be one hundred years old and me a hundred minus a day so I won't know good people like you passed away.

lotusforsale · 11-06-2009, 04:58 AM

I just can't get worked up about this. SDD is a great guy, a great vendor, and the rules that say you're either a sponsor or you're out are puzzling at best, but I just can't open a vein over it.

This is a car forum. It's changed greatly over the last 5 years, and people come and go. A lot of the folks who moved over 'there' were folks who weren't here from the beginning. They came in, did their thing, moved on. Evolutionary.

New folks will be here as they find Lotus.

I just want information and some Lotus commraderie. I really don't see these rules limiting that too much. And I don't limit my sources of Lotus info to this site.

There was a crowd that moved on when Frank left. Took a lot of good info and insights with them, but they also took a lot of that sophomoric, juvenile 'mine is bigger than yours' stuff most people grew out of long ago. And it's not been missed here by most.

Water finds its own level. The evolved Lotus Talk will have its audience. The curiously non-creatively named new environment will have its.

And lots of people will drop into both casually, and not take any of it too seriously.

MNlotus · 11-06-2009, 05:05 AM

thats why most people have made "the switch"

lotusforsale · 11-06-2009, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MNlotus

thats why most people have made "the switch"

'Most' people have? Really?

Average number of posts per day here vs 'there?'

That's like somebody saying "I don't know anybody who supports policy X." And therefore concluding that NOBODY supports policy X. Only to find out later, and be dumbfounded by, Policy X winning in referendum.

10-30-2009, 06:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
BRTHTAKR AKA XHILR8N! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Asheville, North Carolina Posts: 1,151 Images: 6	Cowardly censors Removing Keith's obituary thread from active topics without explanation says volumes. __________________ Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo Da Vinci 2005 Elise LRG, Trim Shop interior, full cage, Cup wheels, other stuff. 2007 Toyota Tundra (about 10 cup holders) 2004 BMW X3 (4 small cup holders) 1980 Rover SD1

10-30-2009, 06:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
lotus69f2 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bethel, PA Posts: 482	It does seem odd. http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f68/...-banned-80347/ __________________ Kyle Kaulback '56 Mark VI '71 Type61mX '71 Type69 '72 Europa TC '74 Elan Plus2S 130/5 '91 M100 Elan '91 Type 106 Esprit X180R LotusSport 110 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/PhillyLotus/ http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f218...us-barn-75834/

10-30-2009, 07:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
fitfan Regurgitated User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego! Posts: 4,089	Thats right - i Am over there now. will stop Logging in here... Keith was a good guy, at least let him post, if not sell... Lame! i type this i stare at a banners Of wrestling gear??? and the hardrock casino?? Thats silly? Usually don't notice when things change Slowly... then come back here its like - wow - __________________ Driving it around!

10-30-2009, 07:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
BRTHTAKR AKA XHILR8N! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Asheville, North Carolina Posts: 1,151 Images: 6	And how does one become 258th? "I am not a number, I am a free man!" __________________ Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo Da Vinci 2005 Elise LRG, Trim Shop interior, full cage, Cup wheels, other stuff. 2007 Toyota Tundra (about 10 cup holders) 2004 BMW X3 (4 small cup holders) 1980 Rover SD1

10-30-2009, 07:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
ggelise Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 193	AWESOME on my way __________________ ChuforiaGraffix.com

10-30-2009, 07:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
cory1000 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,925	Keith and 257 others have moved on to talk about Lotus someone else...

10-30-2009, 08:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
Demonized NOT ßANNED! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,546	Amusingly this thread no-longer shows up under active topics. __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise, Katana Supercharger, LSS Wheels, 2Bular exhaust & cat, rear panel delete, Cup Airbox, Volt / Oil temp gauge, Ohlins double adjustable coilovers, Dual Oil Coolers, S111 RTD Brace, Moroso Oil Pan, MicroMirror, S111 "V-Force" Harness bar, Manly Engine Mounts, Odyssey PC680 & RLS Bracket, Saikou Michi OCC, CF Scoops, CF Bootlid, CF Front Lip.

10-30-2009, 08:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
glb Unattractive Nuisance Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chester, NJ Posts: 4,516	Re: Letting keith post but not advertise I can see LT's position a bit. Wouldn't they have to monitor Keith's posts if they allowed this? He's a real good guy and we'll miss him, but I can see both sides of this. __________________ 05 elise (PES chip, SSRs, shift tower mods, Multivex; HID low beams); 05 Corolla XRS; 72 Elan Sprint, 170 hp (Sold) "Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable." G. Orwell. 6. "A bore is a man who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." - Gian Vincenzo Gravina

10-30-2009, 09:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
Lancia Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,543	Aren't his old posts gone now? Shame what happened to usloc anyway?

11-05-2009, 11:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
the1sen The Azteks are coming! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: In The Ghetto... Ghetto of Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,566	Nadene, You must always remember that nothing positive can come from adding more negativity to an already negative situation. Say what you will about whatever and whomever you wish. The fact is, Nadene, you are wrong. There are many more people who see that and have moved on accordingly. It isn't a SINGLE person you've offended so. It is an entire community. As for me, I hope you live to be one hundred years old and me a hundred minus a day so I won't know good people like you passed away.

11-06-2009, 04:58 AM	#18 (permalink)
lotusforsale Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,217 Images: 8	I just can't get worked up about this. SDD is a great guy, a great vendor, and the rules that say you're either a sponsor or you're out are puzzling at best, but I just can't open a vein over it. This is a car forum. It's changed greatly over the last 5 years, and people come and go. A lot of the folks who moved over 'there' were folks who weren't here from the beginning. They came in, did their thing, moved on. Evolutionary. New folks will be here as they find Lotus. I just want information and some Lotus commraderie. I really don't see these rules limiting that too much. And I don't limit my sources of Lotus info to this site. There was a crowd that moved on when Frank left. Took a lot of good info and insights with them, but they also took a lot of that sophomoric, juvenile 'mine is bigger than yours' stuff most people grew out of long ago. And it's not been missed here by most. Water finds its own level. The evolved Lotus Talk will have its audience. The curiously non-creatively named new environment will have its. And lots of people will drop into both casually, and not take any of it too seriously. Last edited by lotusforsale : 11-06-2009 at 05:13 AM.

11-06-2009, 05:05 AM	#19 (permalink)
MNlotus 06 elise Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: apple valley MN Posts: 812	thats why most people have made "the switch" __________________ 2006 Lotus Elise-way too many mods to list (k24 swap planned. 300+whp) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjIcCsvhWvY 2003 Caterham Super Seven DeDion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1ysO...e=channel_page

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