Do you believe there is a God? - LotusTalk

Moto44 · 09-15-2006, 06:55 AM

Harris poll results:

Although 79 percent of Americans believe there is a God, only 66 percent are absolutely certain of it – hence, 21 percent of the population are atheists and 34 percent are agnostics

• Ten percent of Protestants, 21 percent of Roman Catholics, and 52 percent of Jews do not believe in God.
• 84 percent of women believe in God, compared with 73 percent of men.
• 91 percent of African Americans believe in God, compared with 81 percent of Hispanics and 78 percent of whites.
• 87 percent of Republicans believe in God, compared with 78 percent of Democrats and 75 percent of Independents.
• 82 percent of those with no college education believe in God, compared with 73 percent who went to college.

dbisbee · 09-15-2006, 07:03 AM

There has to be a God as I own an Elise!

bluejae · 09-15-2006, 07:06 AM

"a" God or "The" God?

slaughtr · 09-15-2006, 07:07 AM

No. If there is one and he will only accept me in heaven if I believe in him, I don't want to go there. We have enough narcisists down here.

Crudson · 09-15-2006, 07:10 AM

Same as time travel. If it was true it would be unquestionably so.

fpitas · 09-15-2006, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by slaughtr

No. If there is one and he will only accept me in heaven if I believe in him, I don't want to go there. We have enough narcisists down here.

Maybe he'll only accept you if you don't believe in Him

drjose · 09-15-2006, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Moto44

Do you believe there is a God?

That would be a resounding YES! Right now I am trying to get out as a CEO of a medical corporation to join the ministry full time. If given a choice between a multimillion dollar job in Beverly Hills with all kinds of perks or a hut somewhere in Central America, where I could minister, I would choose the hut without thinking.

J

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slaughtr · 09-15-2006, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fpitas

Maybe he'll only accept you if you don't believe in Him

Oh, you mean he only wants the smart people in heaven. I like your thinking.

kestrel74 · 09-15-2006, 07:36 AM

Ahhh religion & politics...... 2 subjects I NEVER discuss.

Raindem · 09-15-2006, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kestrel74

Ahhh religion & politics...... 2 subjects I NEVER discuss.

That's too bad since they are 2 of the most important subjects in our world today.

lundgren · 09-15-2006, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bluejae

"a" God or "The" God?

"A God" means one of two things:

1) There aren't really gods at all.
2) There are many different gods, but they are all super beings at war with each other over their followers, or they share their followers with different truths.

"The God" means either two things:

1) There isn't really THE god, at all, matter of fact no god.
2) Most of the belief systems over the history of time are filled with part truths, or possibly one belief or religion has it all or much more of it than any other while most religions worship a god that does not exist as they know it.

babak · 09-15-2006, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kestrel74

Ahhh religion & politics...... 2 subjects I NEVER discuss.

+1, this thread will go nowhere good.

KingOfJericho · 09-15-2006, 07:53 AM

If there is one it's probably a woman so I wouldn't get along with her anyway...

Andrikos · 09-15-2006, 08:01 AM

95% of Amurricans believe in 'GOD'.

I can't believe there are so many godless heathens in this god foresaken forum!

He will strike upon thee with His mighty wrath.

If you want to be SAVED, go over to the moremonkey forum. That's where all the 'saved' hang out...

PS

Shouldn't there be only TWO poll choices?

1) Unsure
2) I'm deluded

redbutt · 09-15-2006, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Raindem

That's too bad since they are 2 of the most important subjects in our world today.

They are also the causes of just about everything bad that has happened in our recorded history.

catapult · 09-15-2006, 08:08 AM

Interesting that the poll shows more people voting No. I'm actually surprised. What do you think about the extent to which "God" influences your politics. I'm always surprised about how often people refer to God in their speeches in the US (esp Bush). I don't think this happens so much in any other developed country.

nas213 · 09-15-2006, 08:09 AM

Here are a few more questions.

Do you believe there is a God?
or
Do you know there is a God?

In other words, how strong is your belief. Do you hold your belief in God as just a likely theory or as fundamental truth. What's the point in believing in something arbitrarily if you cannot know?

My answer: I know there is a God (just one). There is more scientific evidence for there being a God than not, but not enough evidence to prove the case for either side. However, I know there is a God because of things I have seen Him do in my life and the lives of those around me.

kyohan03 · 09-15-2006, 08:12 AM

No surprise that more people on this board vote No, perfectly consistent with the tone around here.

But, let me go out on a limb here and predict that this poll and the ensuing 'discussion' will not change a single person's point of view on the topic, regardless of poll results or 'points' made in the discussion.

wrh3 · 09-15-2006, 08:14 AM

Lots of religions.....lots of denominations, this is a polarizing question but my belief basically boils down to this:
If you believe that Jesus Christ came to earth as the son of God and died for your sins and have faith in him, you will go to Heaven. There are a lot of false gods and one true God.
I can honestly say that he has never let me down (including lots of trivial things but some major ones as well) and is one of the reasons I am able to drive a Lotus today. YMWNV

MickOpalak · 09-15-2006, 08:25 AM

View Poll Results: Do you believe there is a God?
Yes	104	43.15%
No	101	41.91%
Unsure	36	14.94%
Voters: 241. You may not vote on this poll

09-15-2006, 06:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
Moto44 Back in the Saddle Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,830	Do you believe there is a God? Harris poll results: Although 79 percent of Americans believe there is a God, only 66 percent are absolutely certain of it – hence, 21 percent of the population are atheists and 34 percent are agnostics • Ten percent of Protestants, 21 percent of Roman Catholics, and 52 percent of Jews do not believe in God. • 84 percent of women believe in God, compared with 73 percent of men. • 91 percent of African Americans believe in God, compared with 81 percent of Hispanics and 78 percent of whites. • 87 percent of Republicans believe in God, compared with 78 percent of Democrats and 75 percent of Independents. • 82 percent of those with no college education believe in God, compared with 73 percent who went to college. Last edited by Moto44 : 09-19-2006 at 12:19 PM.

09-15-2006, 07:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
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slaughtr Big head man Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 5,955 Images: 3	No. If there is one and he will only accept me in heaven if I believe in him, I don't want to go there. We have enough narcisists down here. __________________ My car both sucks and blows. Now with added all natural smoky goodness!

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Crudson / Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 2,487	Same as time travel. If it was true it would be unquestionably so.

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KingOfJericho Xx-------Exige-------xX Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South Salem, NY Posts: 3,343	If there is one it's probably a woman so I wouldn't get along with her anyway...

09-15-2006, 08:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
Andrikos Lulu ROX! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: RanchoSahuarita.com , AZ Posts: 3,734	95% of Amurricans believe in 'GOD'. I can't believe there are so many godless heathens in this god foresaken forum! He will strike upon thee with His mighty wrath. If you want to be SAVED, go over to the moremonkey forum. That's where all the 'saved' hang out... PS Shouldn't there be only TWO poll choices? 1) Unsure 2) I'm deluded __________________ My daily driver is an orange plastic toaster

09-15-2006, 08:08 AM	#16 (permalink)
catapult Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,569	Interesting that the poll shows more people voting No. I'm actually surprised. What do you think about the extent to which "God" influences your politics. I'm always surprised about how often people refer to God in their speeches in the US (esp Bush). I don't think this happens so much in any other developed country.

09-15-2006, 08:09 AM	#17 (permalink)
nas213 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lake Jackson, TX Posts: 1,188	Here are a few more questions. Do you believe there is a God? or Do you know there is a God? In other words, how strong is your belief. Do you hold your belief in God as just a likely theory or as fundamental truth. What's the point in believing in something arbitrarily if you cannot know? My answer: I know there is a God (just one). There is more scientific evidence for there being a God than not, but not enough evidence to prove the case for either side. However, I know there is a God because of things I have seen Him do in my life and the lives of those around me.

09-15-2006, 08:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
kyohan03 BANNED Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 469 Images: 5	no surprise No surprise that more people on this board vote No, perfectly consistent with the tone around here. But, let me go out on a limb here and predict that this poll and the ensuing 'discussion' will not change a single person's point of view on the topic, regardless of poll results or 'points' made in the discussion.

09-15-2006, 08:14 AM	#19 (permalink)
wrh3 Car Guy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 1,052	Lots of religions.....lots of denominations, this is a polarizing question but my belief basically boils down to this: If you believe that Jesus Christ came to earth as the son of God and died for your sins and have faith in him, you will go to Heaven. There are a lot of false gods and one true God. I can honestly say that he has never let me down (including lots of trivial things but some major ones as well) and is one of the reasons I am able to drive a Lotus today. YMWNV __________________ Bill '07 BMW M Coupe, '05 Lotus Elise (Traded) www.billswebspace.com/lotus www.syntheticfirst.com

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