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Old 02-14-2008, 01:37 PM   #481 (permalink)
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Not zero, but far less than this sh*thole the Republicans have left us.

You get the point.
No, I don't think I do, actually. I hate George Bush too, but you'd have to be retarded to believe that Hillary is going to magically make everything better. She can't cry her way out of the national debt. You'd also have to be an idiot to think that either the republicans or the democrats care about anyone other than themselves.
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:39 PM   #482 (permalink)
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Larry,

I have grown up all over the world (my folks were Ambassadors), and have lived and learned about many cultures, and don't possess the blind loyalty to much of anything really and try to see things from every perspective.

BUt your democrats being intelligent and republicans being soldiers comment, I think is a bit simplistic, no?
Every comment on this thread is someone's opinion.

That's all.
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No, I don't think I do, actually. I hate George Bush too, but you'd have to be retarded to believe that Hillary is going to magically make everything better. She can't cry her way out of the national debt. You'd also have to be an idiot to think that either the republicans or the democrats care about anyone other than themselves.
I'm not an idiot. Neither are you.

I'm a Liberal Democrat.

You're not.

You guys throw every rude remark and comment there is at Hilary Clinton.

I say you're wrong.
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I'm not an idiot. Neither are you.

I'm a Liberal Democrat.

You're not.

You guys throw every rude remark and comment there is at Hilary Clinton.

I say you're wrong.
You're right, I'm not a democrat. I'm also not a republican.
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:48 PM   #485 (permalink)
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Cool!

Fine!
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So once again, Republican Lotus owners...

who are you voting for and why?

I dare you to answer.
The best candidate and who will do the best job for our country. Personally I don't think it will be Hillary. I am willing to cross party lines for the right candidate though.
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Fantastic.
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Larry,

Did you seriously believe Clinton reduced that to zero while he was in office? If so, what lead you to that conclusion?
Let's deal in facts:

Clinton didn't reduce the national debt to zero, he stopped the growth of the national debt and reduced it. (More than any other President.)




http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLI.../clinton.debt/
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So Larry are you willing to cross party lines?
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That's just horrible!

Hillary's trying to capture the momentum of Obama.

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Maybe because there is not "behind the scenes" stuff to report.

You see, I've also know a few people in the Secret Service, etc. (it not uncommon here in Northern Virgina) that worked for the various Bushes and the Clintons. Everyone one of them only had good things to say about either of the Bushes and their families. Everyone of them only had bad things to say about the Clintons.

Absolute proof? Of course not. But it is an interesting point from people that were personally involved.
You hit the nail on the head. There are some stories behind both Bushes... everybody reveres the older Bushes - saying they were very "grandparenty" and respectful. The current Bushes have no stories at all since they're straight up anti-social. They hosted only three dinners prior to 2005 - least in the history of any Presidency.

Clintons are another story - I have never heard one half-good story from anybody - only horror stories. I do have a really funny one about Al Gore as well, but that was somewhat of an isolated incident as he was obviously very angry at his son for getting caught with marijuana in Montgomery County - LOL.
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Let's deal in facts:

Clinton didn't reduce the national debt to zero, he stopped the growth of the national debt and reduced it. (More than any other President.)




http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLI.../clinton.debt/
Clinton was simply a status quo President. He really didn't do much at all except for chop defense spending. Not saying that the former is a bad thing, but as a result of so many cuts to our defense spending, the current administration has been stuck trying to get it up to par. Could have been done more efficiently? Without a doubt. Do I think the Iraq War was a waste? Absolutely. Unfortunately, that's water under the bridge at this point...
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You hit the nail on the head. There are some stories behind both Bushes... everybody reveres the older Bushes - saying they were very "grandparenty" and respectful. The current Bushes have no stories at all since they're straight up anti-social. They hosted only three dinners prior to 2005 - least in the history of any Presidency.

Clintons are another story - I have never heard one half-good story from anybody - only horror stories. I do have a really funny one about Al Gore as well, but that was somewhat of an isolated incident as he was obviously very angry at his son for getting caught with marijuana in Montgomery County - LOL.
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So Al Gore's son gets pulled over in Bethesda and the cops smell weed - so they check his car and find a joint or something. He proceeds to get arrested and Al Gore is called down to the station to pick him up. Obviously furious, Al Gore starts yelling at his son "What the hell is wrong with you?! Do you want to end up like people like those two?" ... fingers pointed right at the two Secret Service agents appointed to his detail that evening. Let's just say that a lot of people lost a lot of respect for him after that. My cousin worked a key part of his campaign many years ago - he garnered quite a respectable following. I will say that Al Gore is usually pretty reasonable - that is when he isn't hunting Man-Bear-Pig.
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So Al Gore's son gets pulled over in Bethesda and the cops smell weed - so they check his car and find a joint or something. He proceeds to get arrested and Al Gore is called down to the station to pick him up. Obviously furious, Al Gore starts yelling at his son "What the hell is wrong with you?! Do you want to end up like people like those two?" ... fingers pointed right at the two Secret Service agents appointed to his detail that evening. Let's just say that a lot of people lost a lot of respect for him after that. My cousin worked a key part of his campaign many years ago - he garnered quite a respectable following. I will say that Al Gore is usually pretty reasonable - that is when he isn't hunting Man-Bear-Pig.
Sounds like his son is a slow learner: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=121573

What kind of MPG does a Prius get when doing 100mph?
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Sounds like his son is a slow learner: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=121573

What kind of MPG does a Prius get when doing 100mph?
Yeah, he got in trouble in late '06 again in Bethesda as well (if I remember correctly).
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A Commie in our mists!
Just like another person on this thread, i felt compelled to point out larrys' spelling error. he was such had to be such a "larry" and point out my mispelling of a word.
It makes my eyes "MISTY" with laughter to see that Larry is guilty of such an error after trying to belittle another person here for the same thing.
funny thing is larry used to be a professional proofreader.............I guess he got fired.
Now i am in the midst of at "someones" intolerance of people in general.
as an independant, i find it hard to vote for anyone this guy supports.
still on the fence though.
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Let's deal in facts:

Clinton didn't reduce the national debt to zero, he stopped the growth of the national debt and reduced it. (More than any other President.)




http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLI.../clinton.debt/
Clinton's spending was reigned in by a Republican congress. I can't imagine what kind of bloated bureaucracy he would have created if he had a sympathetic majority in congress.

Of course that is Bush's problem. He was unwilling to use his veto pen on any bill that the Republicans sent to him. That and his "compassionate conservative" crap which is another way of saying big-spending Christian.
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A top Hillary Clinton adviser on Saturday boldly predicted his candidate would lock down the nomination before the August convention by definitively winning over party insiders and officials known as superdelegates, claiming the number of state elections won by rival Barack Obama would be “irrelevant” to their decision.

doesn't seem very "democratic" does it?

the funny thing is Obama has bought - I mean donated - more money than Hillary to the superdelegates....

Obama donated the largest amount, about $694,000, to those campaigns in the past three years, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. Clinton donated $195,500.
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