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Old 07-06-2010, 08:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just drove past a gory motorcycle accident...

Some of you know that I had a wicked motorcycle accident in 2000. My body armor and my Shoei helmet saved my life.

Minutes ago as I was driving, traffic slowed on I-94 almost to a standstill. "Construction", I thought to myself.

We crawled past an area where a Harley Davidson motorcycle was laying on its side. As the cars got to the motorcycle I saw three construction workers, still in their bright yellow hardhats and blaze orange vests, tending to a man in his 40's. The crash must have just happened as there were no emergency vehicles.

I got a look at (what was left of) the man's face. Mostly blood and he wasn't moving. His t-shirt was soaked with blood, in fact his shoulders and arm were dipped into what looked like quarts of his blood. No helmet.

I'm sorry to preach, but I can't help it. A $300 helmet SAVED MY LIFE.

It's hot today, but I always say "If it is too hot for a helmet, it is TOO HOT TO RIDE."

I wish the man and his family that he survives and makes a recovery, but I have my doubts.
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I like that. ++

It's hot today, but I always say "If it is too hot for a helmet, it is TOO HOT TO RIDE."
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hopefully it is not as bad as it initially seems. The head and face bleed A LOT. Small lacerations on the head can seem horrible at first because of the amount of blood. It gets everywhere. Once cleaned up, maybe his injuries won't be quite as severe. I hope. Thoughts to him and his family.

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Old 07-06-2010, 09:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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helmets, etc.

"I'd rather sweat than bleed."

ATGAT: All The Gear, All The Time.

Sportbike rider since 1992. Street crashes: 6. Roadrace/track crashes: 2. Broken bones, concussions: 0.

I am REQUIRED to wear full leathers, gauntlet gloves, roadrace boots, a back protector and leathers with body armor on the track. I CHOOSE to wear them on the street.

Sweat is the least of your worries.

Riders without helmets at the least are asking for brain damage, disability, death, dismemberment and becoming potentially a burden to their own or their family's finances and time spent in recovery. Even riders who DO wear their gear are at risk for injury or death, but the risk is greatly reduced.

Oh, and get a full-face helmet. Ever slide your face on asphalt at the speed limit?

Cheers, and "put your valuables (brain) in a safe place."
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Old 07-06-2010, 11:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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+1 for motorsports safety gear. I've been riding since 2005, and I've *never* ridden without full gear - helmet, gloves, jacket, pants and boots all specifically designed for motorcycling. I don't care how hot it is out - get appropriate gear for your weather or as some suggest just don't ride.

The same goes for tracking your car. Always wear a helmet, and you should also wear a proper fire-retardant suit, footwear and gloves.

No clothing is more inconvenient than a cast, bandages and hospital gown.

And your mother/wife/kids/friends don't want to see your bloody corpse either...
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Old 07-06-2010, 11:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure you guys are just preaching to the choir here.
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Old 07-06-2010, 11:45 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Prices of helmets have gone down. You can get a DOT approved helmet (good enough for street riding) for $80 to $100! Problem in this case is because some of the Harley crowd would rather be dead and red than wear a helmet and when forced to by a State's helmet law, pick the one with the least amount of coverage.

Last accident I was in was in 2001. I walked away with only some soreness that because of a helmet and jacket. Without a helmet, I would have had substantial head injuries from my left eye to the back of neck (based on the scratches on the helmet). One night with some Motrin and I was good to go the next day. Amazing what a difference some gear that made.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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+1 on wearing a helmet. Even scooting around Old Town on my Stella, I wear a BMW airflow helmet. It works well to keep me cooler yet still meets European standards for crash helmets.

One of my friends just wrecked a scooter last week on 110 south going past the Pentagon. She was going almost 60mph and lost control, flying right into the roadway, wearing a helmet, sun dress and flip flops. Her whole side is lacerated, and an awful lot of skin torn off the top of her foot. It is always good to wear protective gear on any roadway with speeds over 25mph. And helmets, gloves and shoes at any speed.

Ride (and drive) safely!
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I don't ride a motorcycle. My brother does though. When he started I always gave him the All the Gear speech every single time. I like my brother, I want him around for a long while.

Then one day I got on an ATV in my own backyard. "Eh, i'm just cruising around the property!" I didn't gear up. Nearly lost an eye, totalled the ATV, shredded my clothes. Broke my thumb into 5 pieces. You can't imagine the level of **** I got from my brother for not gearing up. I keep the pictures around these days just to be able to give the yo, dumbass speech. Still have the scars as my been-there-done-that, but the pics... damn. It's always the one time you don't think you need it, you get your ass kicked.

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Old 07-06-2010, 12:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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not to sound harsh but the people who don't wear helmets out are only weeding themselves and their stupidity out of our gene pool. I had a friend in college act stupid on a motorcycle and it cost him his life. I found out when my roomate who was a reporter for the news got a call to meet his camera crew at the accident. Was going WAY too fast for even a helmet to save his life but wasn't wearing the appropriate body-gear to keep himself intact. I frequently see people riding in t-shirts and shorts and I cringe at what it's going to look like when they fall/slide. I don't ride a motorcycle because I know that it's only a matter of time before you get into a bad accident... people just aren't careful enough.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I pretty much agree with everything here. I enjoyed riding my bike until I realized that even when you're geared up that all possible "scenarios" on the street result in the rider paying the heaviest price. With people eating and talking on the phone in their cars, no one is paying attention... maybe I just got old :-)

I find people who wear helmets with tshirt/shorts the most deluded. I haven't seen any robots walking around with human heads YET.

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not to sound harsh but the people who don't wear helmets out are only weeding themselves and their stupidity out of our gene pool. I had a friend in college act stupid on a motorcycle and it cost him his life. I found out when my roomate who was a reporter for the news got a call to meet his camera crew at the accident. Was going WAY too fast for even a helmet to save his life but wasn't wearing the appropriate body-gear to keep himself intact. I frequently see people riding in t-shirts and shorts and I cringe at what it's going to look like when they fall/slide. I don't ride a motorcycle because I know that it's only a matter of time before you get into a bad accident... people just aren't careful enough.
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damn...hope the guy pulls through.

+1 on too hot for helmet, too hot to ride. I can't imagine not riding without a helmet and full race suit.
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I wear my full black leather track-type gear every time I ride to protect my head and the largest organ of the body - the skin.

To hot to wear gear? Never. Just pre-hydrate and ride. Nothing like sticky tires on a hot day!
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not to sound harsh but the people who don't wear helmets out are only weeding themselves and their stupidity out of our gene pool. I had a friend in college act stupid on a motorcycle and it cost him his life. I found out when my roomate who was a reporter for the news got a call to meet his camera crew at the accident. Was going WAY too fast for even a helmet to save his life but wasn't wearing the appropriate body-gear to keep himself intact. I frequently see people riding in t-shirts and shorts and I cringe at what it's going to look like when they fall/slide. I don't ride a motorcycle because I know that it's only a matter of time before you get into a bad accident... people just aren't careful enough.
Although I understand the thought process with the weeding out... many times they survive after several tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical expenses and more in future care expenses, so they don't always "weed out"...

The guy who taught me how to ride a motorcycle one day told me to lay the bike down (his bike) in the street at 35 mph. I told him that he was crazy... summertime... shorts and t-shirt.... I was about 12 or 13 at the time. He told me he wouldn't teach me anymore unless I laid the bike down. When I said, "I'm not dressed right to do that," he responded, "then dress right when riding from here on out."
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Hate to say I don't feel much safer in my Exige. I always drive very defensively just as if I was on a motorcycle.
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About 50% of the riders here in north Idaho are in shorts, no shirt, flip flops, no helmet. There are no laws requiring them to have the helmet. I haven't seen one of them plastered on the pavement yet, but I cringe every time one goes by. Idiots. When I get a bike it will be ATGATT.
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All the respect in the world for bikers, but I decided long ago that it just wasn't for me. I drive cars and I'm a licensed pilot, but there are too many variables that I can't control on two wheels. My thoughts and prayers for the downed rider...
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When I first moved to LA there was no helmet law. I never even rode10 ft without a helmet just to see what it felt like. Just not worth it. Especially if you want to QB in Pittsburg
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Hope the guy lives.
I just got a dream job as an AF aviator and my biggest fear is having an accident while riding my bike. I don't have a chance for down time or I'm done.
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Hope the guy lives.
I just got a dream job as an AF aviator and my biggest fear is having an accident while riding my bike. I don't have a chance for down time or I'm done.
Without exception, every person that I know who rides long enough has an accident. The details vary, but the odds always catch up.

If we accept that premise, then the only way that we can influence the outcome is to dress for the crash.
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