In the process of being defrauded on ebay - help needed!!

[Phantom]

I was "spoofed" (their word) through PayPal about 5 years ago for $500- I called, and PayPal imdeiately refunded the funds to my account-

$300 is worth, at least, filing claims with everyone involved-

That sucks though-

[RENDERMAN]

Welcome to the club man, my case is simpler and I'm very pissed off. I sold a computer on the 5th so PayPal told me the same, they need to hold the funds until delivery which it sounds fair to me but here's my problem. The computer was delivered on the 14th of this month (I summited the tracking number to PayPal) plus the buyer already posted a 100% positive comment on Ebay and I still have to wait till the 26th of the month. So the moral of the story is PayPal charged me $28.50 for the transaction, I have to wait almost a month to get paid Screw you PayPal, our relationship is over!!

[Bavarian Motorist]

I had a case for $8500 a couple years ago where I was the seller and Paypal told me I won the $$, but I had to wait 180 days to receive it (lol?). Fast forward 6 months, they told me I never won it and they made an error in saying I did. They refunded it to the other guy's account.

Then they closed my account for "suspicious activity".


I will never use Paypal again.

[dasmoofler]

Originally Posted by evomind

that money was stolen fair and square.

Spoken like a true Chicagoen!

[JoshS]

Originally Posted by evomind

you know what they are going to do before they ever send 1 person out for a day, trans costs, meals, and whatever else?
delay, delay, delay.
is it worth all of graydons time and effort to sue paypal in any court for 300 bucks? i dont know.
he has to do some papaerwork, have documents notarized, filed, etc, then take a day off from work. on top of that he may not win the case. im not sure, but if he doesnt win, is graydon then liable for the defendants court costs?
sorry....that money was stolen fair and square.

Read the article from the paypalsucks.com they get one shot at a delay in Small claims court. As does anyone on any case. It's not like real court where you can delay trials with motions for years. They will state that he agreed to arbitration, Graydon will mail the appropriate counter argument that for matters under the small claim threshold arbitration doesn't hold. The court will give a date and that's that, they can appeal the verdict (not the venue change) but it appears they never do that according to the article, they pay. I would agree with you if this was Superior or Federal court. In small claims you are not liable for the defendants court costs. And, yes he'll have to take a day off.

[Graydon]

Just wanted to update this thread with a happy ending. Paypal apparently realized this guy was trying to defraud me, and released the funds to my account. I won't be completely satisfied until the funds have cleared into my checking account (and even then can they take it out of my checking account without permission?), but it seems Paypal did the right thing this time. So I think I escaped with just a scare. Thanks for all the good advice, I will be putting it to use from now on.

[Lancia]

I don't ship until money clears into my bank account.

Ebay keeps buyers secret now allowing free rein to shilling and other frauds.
I have spotted people bidding up all items of a certain type artificially raising prices.
Impossible to spot on Fraudbay now.

Many people are boycotting paypal and ebay because of gratuitous banning of items for political reasons like holsters, etc.
There are many alternatives to ebay now because of this.

Had a package vanish in usps after shipper failed to pay for insurance I bought.
I filed a claim quickly and had it replaced.
Probably usps fault.
Seller not happy though.

I was interested in something in the uk recently.
No response to emails so I wrote ebay.
No response of any kind from either EVER.

I don't buy or sell with anyone I don't have a phone number for also.