Study recommends total ban on military - LotusTalk

Beanie · 07-12-2009, 05:49 AM

A study comissioned by smokers has concluded that the military costs too much money and too many lives. It recommends a gradual phase out of the military over a 10 to 20 year period. Although smokers currently enjoy deeply discounted prices on tobacco at commissares and have traditionally been able to continue smoking while serving their country, that is expected to change over the same 10 to 20 year period. "It isn't just smokers who are affected by the military," a spokesman said, "Nonsmokers put their lives at risk, too. And wars kill a lot of people, sometimes innocent civilians, as history clearly shows. Cost savings alone more than justify the ban, but we are mostly concerned about saving lives. We are hoping that people from other countries, smokers and nonsmokers alike, join us in this effort to put an end to militaries and wars."

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Two smokers sit in the mud next to their tank in this archive photo. They are putting their lives at risk every day and have to endure many other hardships, such as deployment overseas, long periods of separation from their families and friends, wearing drab clothing, unfashionable haircuts, and risk of infection with STDs.

Amarao · 07-12-2009, 05:51 AM

I'm gonna go smoke a cigar now.

Tyger · 07-12-2009, 05:53 AM

Cute. Reminds me of that old joke: "my cousin smoked two packs a day and died a horrible death at age 42... he got run over by a bus."

dfa2100 · 07-12-2009, 08:26 AM

Since I just read this on CNN, I'll throw out the article that inspired this...

Study recommends total ban on smoking for soldiers - CNN.com

Monsi · 07-12-2009, 02:08 PM

the government has banned a lot of drugs less harmful than cigarettes... its a shame the tobacco industry has its fangs in the government and the American people

If nicotine came in syringes I wouldn't care but I have to breath that crap too and it pisses me off

Minnis · 07-12-2009, 02:38 PM

I think the Op is trying to say ban military not smoking. Whats wrong with war, its in our nature. I'd rather die in battle than from putting tar in my lungs. Of course I'd rather wear pants than a dress but to each his own.

Beanie · 07-12-2009, 03:31 PM

It was just an Onion-like joke. I'm trying to quit smoking - again - and am not in the military (but was 20+ years ago). I bought some Blu Cigs but they havn't arrived yet.

I think it is fine and dandy that the military has smoking cessation programs and should do whatever they can to help people quit, but they shouldn't take away another right. I think it would eat into recruitment numbers, too. What they should probably do is ban smoking in boot camp, that way people would be forced to quit for at least 8 weeks (or whatever it is). If they take up the habit again, it would probably be due to stress and/or boredom. Worse things happen.

Stormy320 · 07-12-2009, 05:20 PM

This is a free country...isn't it?

Monsi · 07-12-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormy320

This is a free country...isn't it?

you are free to destroy your own lungs... not everyone elses

mx1 · 07-12-2009, 07:32 PM

Dude, I'm in the military. I don't see the humor. Many great, young Americans are giving their lives every day.

Stormy320 · 07-12-2009, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monsi

you are free to destroy your own lungs... not everyone elses

Thanks for reminding me Dad

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Minnis · 07-12-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beanie

What they should probably do is ban smoking in boot camp, that way people would be forced to quit for at least 8 weeks (or whatever it is).

Well I went through about 8 years ago and we were definetely not allowed to smoke in basic let alone have enough time to take a ****, but that was the AF. My friend in the Army claimed to have more leniencies though. I prefer a 100% on my PT test so I don't smoke.

Tyger · 07-12-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Beanie

What they should probably do is ban smoking in boot camp, that way people would be forced to quit for at least 8 weeks (or whatever it is). If they take up the habit again, it would probably be due to stress and/or boredom. Worse things happen.

Uh, smoking has been banned in basic training for a LOOONG time. Are you kidding? When I was there we weren't even allowed junk food!

Tyger · 07-12-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mx1

Dude, I'm in the military. I don't see the humor. Many great, young Americans are giving their lives every day.

I'm in the military too. It's satire. I do see the humor.

Beanie · 07-13-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyger

Uh, smoking has been banned in basic training for a LOOONG time. Are you kidding? When I was there we weren't even allowed junk food!

It was allowed when I was in boot camp, but that was a LOOOOONGER time ago... 1981.

Oh by the way - satire, yes. I'm sorry someone was offended. I have a very warped sense of humor, I guess.

NavyLt · 07-13-2009, 08:36 AM

As we say in the military, "If you can't take a joke, you shouldn't have joined!"

My civvy e-mail account is "Craigcigarman1" as I have 3 humidors full of duty-free Cubans from various deployments. BTW, I recently did so well on my annual Cdn Forces Expres Test (Physical Training Standard) that I am now exempt from doing it for 2 years.

mikester · 07-13-2009, 09:49 AM

That photo clearly illustrates that the whole "smoking area" thing has gotten way out of hand

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Beanie untitled Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,910	Study recommends total ban on military A study comissioned by smokers has concluded that the military costs too much money and too many lives. It recommends a gradual phase out of the military over a 10 to 20 year period. Although smokers currently enjoy deeply discounted prices on tobacco at commissares and have traditionally been able to continue smoking while serving their country, that is expected to change over the same 10 to 20 year period. "It isn't just smokers who are affected by the military," a spokesman said, "Nonsmokers put their lives at risk, too. And wars kill a lot of people, sometimes innocent civilians, as history clearly shows. Cost savings alone more than justify the ban, but we are mostly concerned about saving lives. We are hoping that people from other countries, smokers and nonsmokers alike, join us in this effort to put an end to militaries and wars." Two smokers sit in the mud next to their tank in this archive photo. They are putting their lives at risk every day and have to endure many other hardships, such as deployment overseas, long periods of separation from their families and friends, wearing drab clothing, unfashionable haircuts, and risk of infection with STDs. __________________ It is all about "Other".

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dfa2100 Mors ab alto Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Posts: 1,040	Since I just read this on CNN, I'll throw out the article that inspired this... Study recommends total ban on smoking for soldiers - CNN.com __________________ Nightfall Blue, Biscuit Interior, Hardtop Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings...

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Monsi Statistical Anomaly Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kauai Posts: 2,291 Images: 21	the government has banned a lot of drugs less harmful than cigarettes... its a shame the tobacco industry has its fangs in the government and the American people If nicotine came in syringes I wouldn't care but I have to breath that crap too and it pisses me off __________________ Dude, there's my car!

07-12-2009, 03:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
Beanie untitled Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,910	It was just an Onion-like joke. I'm trying to quit smoking - again - and am not in the military (but was 20+ years ago). I bought some Blu Cigs but they havn't arrived yet. I think it is fine and dandy that the military has smoking cessation programs and should do whatever they can to help people quit, but they shouldn't take away another right. I think it would eat into recruitment numbers, too. What they should probably do is ban smoking in boot camp, that way people would be forced to quit for at least 8 weeks (or whatever it is). If they take up the habit again, it would probably be due to stress and/or boredom. Worse things happen. __________________ It is all about "Other".

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Stormy320 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 2,049	This is a free country...isn't it? __________________ 240S Chrome Orange EXIGE - fast... very fast

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Amarao Hoon Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,415	I'm gonna go smoke a cigar now.

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Tyger burning bright! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,165	Cute. Reminds me of that old joke: "my cousin smoked two packs a day and died a horrible death at age 42... he got run over by a bus."

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Minnis '010 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vegas/Phila. Posts: 770 Images: 1	I think the Op is trying to say ban military not smoking. Whats wrong with war, its in our nature. I'd rather die in battle than from putting tar in my lungs. Of course I'd rather wear pants than a dress but to each his own.

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mx1 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fort Walton Beach FL Posts: 74	Dude, I'm in the military. I don't see the humor. Many great, young Americans are giving their lives every day. __________________ Previous--66 Austin Healey 3000; 79 Alfa Spyder; 72 BMW 2002; 85 944; 86 MR2; 89 944S2; 89 944S2 w M030; Current--01 Audi S4, modded twin turbo;07 Lotus Exige S Lucky enough to have driven the autobahn for 5 years

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NavyLt Say ello to my lil friend Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 122	As we say in the military, "If you can't take a joke, you shouldn't have joined!" My civvy e-mail account is "Craigcigarman1" as I have 3 humidors full of duty-free Cubans from various deployments. BTW, I recently did so well on my annual Cdn Forces Expres Test (Physical Training Standard) that I am now exempt from doing it for 2 years.

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mikester Registered Shmoozer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: So Cal Posts: 4,597	That photo clearly illustrates that the whole "smoking area" thing has gotten way out of hand __________________ Covered in Brandy and Lard

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