UFC 101, Pre and Post Fight Comments

[the1sen]

UFC 101: Weigh-in Video



"Q: Anderson Silva can deal with Forrest Griffin's striking. But can he deal with his size?

A: Stranger things and all that, but it is unlikely Griffin's muscular striking style will prove to be much of an issue for Silva, who practices Muay Thai like it's his religion. If this becomes a kickboxing match, Griffin will find himself with lots of time to learn what brand and wattage of bulb the house lights use.

But if he can bully Silva into the fence and force the middleweight champion into wasting energy in scrambles, carrying Griffin's weight, he might find himself on the proper end of a decision. Silva is not a small 185-pound athlete, but Griffin -- who actually has seen a scale hit 250 pounds more than once in his life -- is more mechanically dense. Size matters." -sherdog.com

Just watched the weigh in, press conference, and fight build up videos...

Anderson Silva looked like he wanted to fight Forrest right at the weigh in. I am so excited to see that fight. Anyone questioning his desire to win or his desire to win in impressive fashion is in for a long, hard fall. Additionally, after the press conference yesterday, Anderson says that if he beats Forrest, he will stick around at 205 and try to compete at both classes for the titles... WOW!

Florian looked really good. Penn looked good, but sounds humbled. Everything from his pre-fight interviews to his comments at the Weigh In.

I'm pulling for Penn to win. I think he wins by Submission in RD 3

I think Silva is going to knock out Forrest if they stay on their feet, and if it goes to the ground, I expect Silva to submit Forrest. I mean no disrespect to Forrest at all. I think he is a great guy, and he is a person who always rises to a challenge. He has HUGE heart, and I think that he is one of those guys who needs a big challenge to get up for a fight. I really like Forrest, but Anderson is a knockout puncher, a serious Jiu Jitsu player, and makes even GREAT fighters like Dan Henderson look like amateur fighters. Add to that the fact that I think he is PISSED at Dana White Trash for bashing him, and you have the makings of a bloody highlight reel fight.

In the end we will hear:

Here is your WINNER after 2 rounds, by KNOCKOUT...



Anderson..................







THE SPIDER














SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLVVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAA



So, my picks for these 2 fights are:

Silva by KO in 2
Penn by Submission in 3

What about you?

[ItsThaMonsta]

Forest has the perfect style to get KO'd by Silva. Enough said. Penn will be too much for Florian. You have to discount everyone's fight against GSP since he is just that much better than anyone else in the division.

[cooldude271]

The undercard fights were dissapointing just one guy sitting on the other to win. I didnt know that Annderson was so cocky that fight irked me i mean i know hes friken awesome but that was stupid. BJ was obvs gonna win I knew that but it was an alright fight i liked seeing BJ and Kenny use their explosiveness. Lol BJ's belly kicks :P

[the1sen]

Anderson Silva - My gosh... I really didn't think it would or could end that way. I theorized that he was angry about Dana White Trash talking badly about him publicly, now I know he was pissed, because he was begging Forrest to hit him. WITH HIS HANDS DOWN!

I don't think he was trying to be cocky at all, Anderson is NOT that kind of guy. I think he was angry because he knew he would catch more hell for this fight because of the way Dana White Trash has portrayed him if he wins too easily, or with any doubts. I think he was frustrated and didn't know any other way to show he was trying to get Forrest to hit him.

And the way Forrest just ran out of the ring. I hope he is ok. He mentioned not liking to fight outside LV; I don't know if he was embarrassed after realizing what happened , or if he was just confused , or if he threw the fight ?

In any case, the Post Fight Interview on the UFC homepage was great for Anderson. He's obviously no fan of White Trash or Lesnar.

Most of all I hope Forrest is ok and that this wasn't a fix... The 3 knockdowns looked legit but I can't be sure with the way Forrest just ran out of the building.

[ItsThaMonsta]

See this is why Anderson's last 2 fights were boring. People were smart enough to not fight him lol. Silva dropped him 3 times in 2 minutes. And on the second one he landed to big shots while Forest was on the ground. Forest dislocated his jaw in the first couple exchanges. After that last hit he couldnt take anymore pain to it. He ran out of the ring because his trainer had to rush him to the hospital and thats why he wasnt at the post fight interviews.

[the1sen]

Originally Posted by ItsThaMonsta

Forest dislocated his jaw in the first couple exchanges. After that last hit he couldnt take anymore pain to it. He ran out of the ring because his trainer had to rush him to the hospital and thats why he wasnt at the post fight interviews.

Oh man, I hope he will be ok. Maybe they should have a rematch since Anderson didn't really knock him out...

I hope the UFC will pay for his medical bills.

[StupidMonKey]

Originally Posted by cooldude271

The undercard fights were dissapointing just one guy sitting on the other to win. I didnt know that Annderson was so cocky that fight irked me i mean i know hes friken awesome but that was stupid. BJ was obvs gonna win I knew that but it was an alright fight i liked seeing BJ and Kenny use their explosiveness. Lol BJ's belly kicks :P

Very effective. They made Florian drop his hand to throw it away and then BJ was able to get the choke in.

[the1sen]

BJ looked good; Not as impressive as I thought he was going to be after the GSP fight. I thought it would have gone more like Rd 1 & 4, rather than the fodder in 2 & 3. He seemed to be in good condition, though not ready to fight GSP condition, like he says he wants to...

ItsThaMonsta, any update on how Forrest is doing? Is he ok man? I understand he also blew out his eardrum?

[ItsThaMonsta]

No new news yet but yes his eardrum was also effed up and he was deaf in that ear. Its only so much you can take before you have to bow out of a fight. I respect him more for putting his personal well-being above trying to continue the fight.

[sleeprfocus]

Silva for a title shot against Machida? PLEASE do this sometime soon, UFC. My dream matches are Silva-Machida and Silva-GSP, which should happen if Dana White knows what he's doing. Penn over Florian and Silva over Griffin doesn't come as any major shocker... hence I didn't order the fights.

[ItsThaMonsta]

Originally Posted by sleeprfocus

Silva for a title shot against Machida? PLEASE do this sometime soon, UFC. My dream matches are Silva-Machida and Silva-GSP, which should happen if Dana White knows what he's doing. Penn over Florian and Silva over Griffin doesn't come as any major shocker... hence I didn't order the fights.

Yeah those are pretty much the 2 best fights the ufc can make right now. There are some fighters in the UFC that I just really feel bad for. Jon Fitch is the biggest example. He is purely a great fighter who just cant be GSP. He had the record for most consecutive wins in the Octagon until Silva broke it.

[the1sen]

Forrest Griffin camp reveal dislocated jaw as Anderson Silva contemplates Lyoto Machida - Telegraph

Man, I hope Forrest is ok, and that the injury to his ear is temporary.

ItsThaMonsta, the Fertitas have publicly said already that team mates should be prepared to fight team mates, which would unfortunately be the case for this.

Personally, I think Machida would take Silva down, even as great of a striker as he is, and that we would see a great BJJ battle between the 2.

GSP, well, I don't mean to take anything away from the guy, but I don't think he could handle the pressure from Silva on their feet, and I don't think he would be able to manhandle Silva on the ground the way he did to Penn.

[the1sen]

Forrest Griffin’s Jaw Not Injured In UFC 101, Lubricant & Drugs Suspect

Apparently he isn't hurt at all??? ...aside from his heart.

Man, I really sympathize with Forrest. When I wrestled, I was just as emotional as he is. It never gets easy to lose, and losing takes so much from you. You put in all this hard work and effort in training and it all gets taken from you in a 3 minute period.

I'm not saying it's right, but I am saying I completely understand how much it hurts to lose.

I still wish Forrest the best... it shows just how big of a heart he really has.

[Noisycow]

Without Fedor in the UFC, it can never claim to have the best in the world.

I don't care for Dana White. He's a weasel. The fighters are treated like cattle. The death of Affliction was horrible for MMA. One monopoly now in the USA now. Sucks.

[the1sen]

Originally Posted by Noisycow

Without Fedor in the UFC, it can never claim to have the best in the world.

Well, they only have most of the best fighters.

Where is your crazy cool avatar man, you're supposed to keep the crazy cool chick avatars... WTF MAN???

By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports Aug 9, 4:25 am EDT Silva seeks new horizons - UFC - Yahoo! Sports

PHILADELPHIA – Hours after the most electrifying domination in a career filled with them, deep in a back hallway of the Wachovia Center, Anderson Silva was waiting for Dana White. Silva is the UFC’s middleweight (185-pound) champion but Saturday he boldly moved up 20 pounds and in a jaw-dropping exhibition, brutalized Forrest Griffin, who just nine months ago was the light heavyweight (205) title holder.

Silva knocked Griffin down twice, offered a hand to help him up once and then promptly floored him again for good at 3:23 of the first round of UFC 101. Most remarkably, he did it with a punch he threw while backpedaling.

It was a complete annihilation. Griffin failed to land a single punch and when he came to his senses, he sprung up and ran from the octagon, trying to push through a doctor’s examination.

“He might be in Georgia by now, he ran out and I haven’t seen him since,” White, the UFC president, joked.

That Silva could move up a weight class and not just win, but destroy with power, was a game-changing and perhaps UFC-altering moment. That’s what Silva and his manager, Ed Soares, wanted to discuss with White.

With his arm wrapped around White’s shoulder, Soares leaned in and delivered a proposition. “Spider” Silva would move permanently to light heavyweight, even if it meant the unorthodox move of giving up his middleweight belt.

“I can do that,” White smiled, a bit stunned at the offer. “I like that. We can do that.”

Soares smiled and shook White’s hand. Silva had been accosted by a fan by then and couldn’t hear White, but it was presumably the news he was seeking. The man has such outrageous confidence in his abilities he’s willing to potentially toss away a championship he’s owned for almost three years to take a challenge outside his comfort zone.

“I’d let him,” White said later, sitting in his quiet dressing room. “We’d put [the middleweight title] up for grabs.”

The hour was late and everyone’s excitement was still high. Perhaps plans and goals change by morning, so White didn’t know what to say officially. This was still just hurried talk. He knew this much though, as a promoter there are more blockbuster fights for Silva at 205 than 185, where he’s beaten everyone of note.

Silva’s next title defense was supposed to be against Dan Henderson, who Silva savagely choked out in March 2008.

“Who knows,” White said, wheels already spinning. “We’ll see what happens. In the talks I’ve had with Anderson, he wants to take on the best in the world. He’s the most talented fighter in the world, the best pound for pound fighter and it’s a joke to say anyone else is. And he wants to continue to prove [it].”

White thought for a moment.

“He would jump in that mix [at the top of the light heavyweight division],” White said. “You’ve got Rashad [Evans], you’ve got Rampage [Jackson], [Lyoto] Machida is the champion. And Tito [Ortiz] is in the mix now.”

If Silva did vacate the middleweight title to move up full time, the ironic thing is that he claims it wouldn’t be to pursue the light heavyweight belt. At least as long as it was held by Machida, a fellow Brazilian and training partner.

“Lyoto is my friend, he is my brother and there is no way that fight will ever happen,” Silva said.

White, coveting a clash between two men who are both unbeaten in UFC competition, brushes that talk aside.

“I’ll make it happen,” White said winking his eye. “It’s not even about money. It’s about proving you’re the best, it’s about securing your place in history. It’s about putting on a super fight that fans want to see.

“I’m all about making big fights that fans want to see.”

Saturday was one of those fights. Silva was motivated by criticism that his last two fights – both victories mind you ¬– were dull, so he gladly moved up to take on a dangerous Griffin, who was known for his attack dog style.

It was intriguing, at least until Silva started toying with Griffin. He knocked Griffin down at will, dared him to connect with a punch, challenged him to be as tough as his reputation and then finally just finished him.

Coming in there was a “Rocky” element to the fight, Griffin the heavy underdog with the Philly crowd firmly behind him and booing Silva. By the end, Griffin was gone and Silva was being cheered. It was the recognition of brilliance overcoming any easy Hollywood storylines.

“He wants to be involved in the biggest fights we can put together,” Soares said.

The fact Silva took this fight is a testament to that. The Brazilian is 25-4 overall and has won all 10 of his fights in the UFC. At age 34, he could’ve sat at middleweight and potentially won 10 more, making nice money with relatively little risk in a division he’s been untouchable in.

That isn’t him though. Not even close.

So not long after stunning the sport with a legendary performance, there he and his manager were, trying to force a back-hall huddle with the UFC kingmaker. Move Silva to light heavyweight for good, they suggested to White.

With nothing left to prove at middleweight, Anderson Silva now wants to lay waste to a whole new division of the UFC. He doesn’t need a belt to prove a thing.

[logo29a]

I hate to change the subject, but did anyone see the Bowles vs. Torres fight last night? Noone expected Bowles to win. He's a local guy, so I knew a bit more about him that most. I felt it was easily the most exciting and important fight of the weekend.

[StupidMonKey]

Originally Posted by logo29a

I hate to change the subject, but did anyone see the Bowles vs. Torres fight last night? Noone expected Bowles to win. He's a local guy, so I knew a bit more about him that most. I felt it was easily the most exciting and important fight of the weekend.

Watched it, was not expecting it 100%. Torres gets too loose and does some stupid moves, thought maybe that would be his undoing.

[Agent ONE]

Silva should stay in his weight class and keep his dominance there. Bulking up beyond where one should be is a bad idea. These slimmer guys don't have the bones, or tendons to support the extra size.

[the1sen]

Originally Posted by StupidMonKey

Watched it, was not expecting it 100%. Torres gets too loose and does some stupid moves, thought maybe that would be his undoing.

Torres got housed. He's going to come back and beat the dog piss out of that kid.

Originally Posted by Agent ONE

Silva should stay in his weight class and keep his dominance there. Bulking up beyond where one should be is a bad idea. These slimmer guys don't have the bones, or tendons to support the extra size.

I don't know that Anderson is necessarily bulking up beyond his capacity. He is very strong at 205. He walks around at 225 or so, I feel badly for the rest of the division if he stays at 205. There is no one who can challenge him except Machida.

White Trash doesn't want GSP and Silva to fight - he's said so in other interviews. For whatever reason, he wants Machida and Anderson to fight, though. Maybe because Anderson considers Lyoto as a brother, and White Trash wants to make an example of his "team mate" situation for the rest of the rich fighters in the UFC.

[logo29a]

Originally Posted by the1sen

Torres got housed. He's going to come back and beat the dog piss out of that kid.

I seriously doubt that. Bowles was underrated because noone knew where he was coming from. Besides, he only has room for improvement. Don't make the mistake that Bowles is outskilled simply because Torres decided to strike with someone with a lot more power.