Wrecked my M3 Not a good day!!! BUCKLE UP - LotusTalk

VBCARGUY · 12-12-2008, 10:21 AM

Recently I bought a 1998 m3 and it was a cherry. I bought it because with my new business I needed a car that got good gas milage, was fun to drive and was SAFE. Thank god I did.

I was in West Virginia on my way back to the beach in a heavy down poor and flipped the car 8 times.(or so the guy behind me said.

I was on a bridge going about 58, the posted speed limit was 70, when all of a sudden the car spun.

I have driven on the track many times done countless HPDE and I have never had a situation like this where I was driving straight and it just spins.

I think I hit black ICE the temp was around 30 Degrees but it was raining/ sleet.

After the car came to a stop on its roof I crawled out of the back windsheild with not a scratch on me and thanked god I was alive. Very sore today but all in all I am just happy to be alive. If I had not had my seatbelt on I would have been DEAD!!!! BUCKLE UP.

Thank you god for saving me !!

usurbrain · 12-12-2008, 10:25 AM

glad you are okay man... out of control spin=no fun

Flash G · 12-12-2008, 10:25 AM

Wow. Glad you survived!

I first looked at the pics before reading the story, and thought you came off that bridge overhead.

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akandok · 12-12-2008, 10:31 AM

Oh wow... Glad you are ok.

apk919 · 12-12-2008, 10:32 AM

Glad you're OK... Black Ice = No Control...

jwood · 12-12-2008, 10:33 AM

Ahh man ... that sucks! Glad to hear your alive with limited damage!

black ice is some nasty stuff. One side of the car could be in it and the other side isn't causing some bad conditions and scary moments.

jim-clayton · 12-12-2008, 10:35 AM

Glad your okay. Bridges are notorious for developing black Ice.

I've seen news footage where they setup a camera on a bridge and wait for the carnage.

BMW's are safe cars.

ajp33 · 12-12-2008, 10:43 AM

Glad you're OK.

wallabyguy · 12-12-2008, 10:46 AM

glad to hear you are ok. God was indeed watching out for you.

serpent · 12-12-2008, 10:55 AM

glad to hear your ok....black ice is unpredictable.

car flipped 8 times and you escape without a scratch, god was watching over you.

luxige · 12-12-2008, 11:09 AM

Sorry about your bad luck...

thankful for your good luck!

chapster5 · 12-12-2008, 11:13 AM

DAMN! Lucky you survived that!!! thats some carnage

Beemers are safer than i imagined

NJdrool · 12-12-2008, 11:25 AM

So glad you are safe. Should make the upcoming holidays very special for you!

tandemracer · 12-12-2008, 11:26 AM

Glad you are OK.

Extra points for difficulty on this maneuver. Looks like you stuck the landing.

CosmosMpower · 12-12-2008, 11:27 AM

Yikes, that's a pretty serious accident. Those E36's are pretty stout, I'm glad I never had an accident in mine to find out though. You should be able to find a replacement pretty easily. Glad you walked away from it.

JWA · 12-12-2008, 11:31 AM

Wow - I'm glad that you made it through without a scratch. Take good care of yourself though, just to be sure.

Black ice is bad stuff, and those conditions sound/look prime for it. From the description I would look to the tires. Are you running something appropriate for those temps? Summer performance tires just don't work under 45 degrees. If you weren't, it might be something to add to the list for the next BMW. Go with a Performance Winter tire such as the Dunlop 3Ds, not an "all-season".

EricH · 12-12-2008, 11:41 AM

Glad you are ok!

Now that I got that out of the way....

NNNNNNNNNNNNNooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! Poor E36!

I do always choose the M3 when I am out late on weekends when I know there is a higher % of chance of an accident. I take the M3 instead of the daily driver because it is maneuverable and can better protect in an accident. It helped once so far. Someone turned left from the right lane in front of me.. I was doing 60, if I was not driving the M3 I would have T-Boned them.

SweetDaddyD · 12-12-2008, 11:52 AM

Whew!

Without a scratch too? I'd step right back into another Bimmer after that.

I rolled a Toyota truck one time and it help up fantastic, certainly exceeded my expectations and the 2 of us came out with only a bruise on one, scratch on the other. I've had worse playing basketball. It was pretty mangled, but the space around where we sat had very little deflection.

Cheers to you, you magnificent lucky bastard!

(just came in from driving my E36 too, which has been a fantastic, fantastic car for 14 years now)

...m... · 12-12-2008, 11:56 AM

...yikes!..definitely reads like black ice...

RacyTracy · 12-12-2008, 11:57 AM

Glad you're ok, but be careful for a couple days, you still could have an injury...

They actually make these......

12-12-2008, 10:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
VBCARGUY Virginia Beach Car Guy Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 591	Wrecked my M3 Not a good day!!! BUCKLE UP Recently I bought a 1998 m3 and it was a cherry. I bought it because with my new business I needed a car that got good gas milage, was fun to drive and was SAFE. Thank god I did. I was in West Virginia on my way back to the beach in a heavy down poor and flipped the car 8 times.(or so the guy behind me said. I was on a bridge going about 58, the posted speed limit was 70, when all of a sudden the car spun. I have driven on the track many times done countless HPDE and I have never had a situation like this where I was driving straight and it just spins. I think I hit black ICE the temp was around 30 Degrees but it was raining/ sleet. After the car came to a stop on its roof I crawled out of the back windsheild with not a scratch on me and thanked god I was alive. Very sore today but all in all I am just happy to be alive. If I had not had my seatbelt on I would have been DEAD!!!! BUCKLE UP. Thank you god for saving me !! Attached Images __________________ Triumph Tr4a Race Car 1967 SOLD 1954 CJ 3b Willys 2006 Exige. The only man in america to have a exige s then go back to a NA exige sold 1967 911S 1900lbs 220hp 2008 bmw m3 daily driver with straight pipes!

12-12-2008, 10:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
usurbrain Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 384	glad you are okay man... out of control spin=no fun __________________ 2008 Exige S240 Storm Titanium, Touring Package, Starshield, Cup Car wheels with R888, Arqray Twin muffler, Cup Car airbox, Nitron Double Adjustable suspension, Saikou Michi catch cans, Bride seat, HID headlights, Lots of track parts...

12-12-2008, 10:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Flash G Double Trouble Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hollywood Hills Posts: 3,364	Wow. Glad you survived! I first looked at the pics before reading the story, and thought you came off that bridge overhead. . __________________ Turn your flatscreen TV into a work of art. Modern Art DVD \| Plasma Aquarium DVD \| Widescreen Fireplace DVD 07 Exige S - Ardent Red, Stage II Exhaust, LSD, Touring pack 06 Range Rover Supercharged - Java Black 06 Range Rover Sport - Java Black 05 Elise - Ardent Red, Stage II Exhaust, Touring pack

12-12-2008, 10:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
akandok 2006 Lotus Elise Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,830	Oh wow... Glad you are ok. __________________ “The biggest cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid people are so sure about things and the intelligent folks are so full of doubts.” Bertrand Russell John 3:16

12-12-2008, 10:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
apk919 Will Race For Bacon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Yawk City & Sandy Eggo Posts: 9,226 Images: 20	Glad you're OK... Black Ice = No Control... __________________ Come along for a ride: my videos 2007 Aspen White Lotus Exige S (street ride) 2010 Isotope Green Lotus 2-Eleven (track ride) 2008 Yellow Hornet Lotus 2-Eleven (track ride 2) * 2011 Lotus Cup USA Race & Time Trial 2-11 Class Champion *

12-12-2008, 10:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
jwood can it kill me? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Delaware, Ohio Posts: 107 Images: 5	Ahh man ... that sucks! Glad to hear your alive with limited damage! black ice is some nasty stuff. One side of the car could be in it and the other side isn't causing some bad conditions and scary moments. __________________ 06 Chili Red Exige

12-12-2008, 10:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
jim-clayton Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Lauderdale Florida Posts: 2,161	Glad your okay. Bridges are notorious for developing black Ice. I've seen news footage where they setup a camera on a bridge and wait for the carnage. BMW's are safe cars.

12-12-2008, 10:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
ajp33 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sunny Pittsburgh Posts: 770	Glad you're OK.

12-12-2008, 10:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
wallabyguy Not Dead Yet Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 7,212	glad to hear you are ok. God was indeed watching out for you. __________________ Robert British Racing Group www.britishracinggroup.com & www.lotusgarage.com Official Sponsor of the 2011 Lotus Cup USA 74 Elite 502, 05 Elise (Snuffalupagous..RIP : Laser Blue, Black Leather, Touring Pack, Hardtop )

12-12-2008, 10:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
serpent Driver!! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,239	glad to hear your ok....black ice is unpredictable. car flipped 8 times and you escape without a scratch, god was watching over you. __________________ Studies show 100% of people die. Might as well have some fun. "Comfort is for kids. I would want to make my passengers weep in fear" - Agent One

12-12-2008, 11:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
luxige luxige Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: MA Posts: 1,573	Sorry about your bad luck... thankful for your good luck! __________________ In theory, there is no difference between Theory and Practice. In practice, there is. - Y. Berra

12-12-2008, 11:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
chapster5 Photochopper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 2,641 Images: 6	DAMN! Lucky you survived that!!! thats some carnage Beemers are safer than i imagined

12-12-2008, 11:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
NJdrool Finally Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 485	So glad you are safe. Should make the upcoming holidays very special for you! __________________ Bob in NJ 06 Sport Elise # 23 Stage II/Micromirror/Green wire mod/S111 tow hook/BWR front plate holder/Green filter/desnorkled/HID's-Hi & Low/Stealth Bulbs.

12-12-2008, 11:26 AM	#14 (permalink)
tandemracer Enemy of the State Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nashville Posts: 854	Glad you are OK. Extra points for difficulty on this maneuver. Looks like you stuck the landing. __________________ Sold all my cars. Moving overseas for a few years.

12-12-2008, 11:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
CosmosMpower Cone Magnet Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,606	Yikes, that's a pretty serious accident. Those E36's are pretty stout, I'm glad I never had an accident in mine to find out though. You should be able to find a replacement pretty easily. Glad you walked away from it. __________________ 06 Canyon Red Elise- Katana SC 06 Porsche Cayman S 07 BMW 335 Coupe 6MT

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12-12-2008, 11:31 AM	#16 (permalink)
JWA Exige Sport 260 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 5,022	Wow - I'm glad that you made it through without a scratch. Take good care of yourself though, just to be sure. Black ice is bad stuff, and those conditions sound/look prime for it. From the description I would look to the tires. Are you running something appropriate for those temps? Summer performance tires just don't work under 45 degrees. If you weren't, it might be something to add to the list for the next BMW. Go with a Performance Winter tire such as the Dunlop 3Ds, not an "all-season".

12-12-2008, 11:41 AM	#17 (permalink)
EricH Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 930	Glad you are ok! Now that I got that out of the way.... NNNNNNNNNNNNNooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! Poor E36! I do always choose the M3 when I am out late on weekends when I know there is a higher % of chance of an accident. I take the M3 instead of the daily driver because it is maneuverable and can better protect in an accident. It helped once so far. Someone turned left from the right lane in front of me.. I was doing 60, if I was not driving the M3 I would have T-Boned them. __________________ Click links to see my 2008 Lotus Exige-S 240 , '99 M3, 505rwhp '89 Mustang ( sold) , '05 WRX STI ( sold) homepages or here for my M3 vid (11MB)

12-12-2008, 11:52 AM	#18 (permalink)
SweetDaddyD BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 7,592 Images: 2	Whew! Without a scratch too? I'd step right back into another Bimmer after that. I rolled a Toyota truck one time and it help up fantastic, certainly exceeded my expectations and the 2 of us came out with only a bruise on one, scratch on the other. I've had worse playing basketball. It was pretty mangled, but the space around where we sat had very little deflection. Cheers to you, you magnificent lucky bastard! (just came in from driving my E36 too, which has been a fantastic, fantastic car for 14 years now)

12-12-2008, 11:56 AM	#19 (permalink)
...m... Celeritas Albionum Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,725	...yikes!..definitely reads like black ice... __________________ 2005 Federal Elise \| Touring \| Storm Titanium ...85,000 miles and aging beautifully...

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