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Well, it pains me to tell you that tonight it became pretty much official. After months of dead end negotiations with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTA), over 3000 of us gathered in the Los Angeles Convention Center with our negotiating committee, marking the largest single meeting turnout in Guild history.
The issues, relative to the common "house cleaning" issues that normally require addressing at the end of a contract are, in a word, monumental. We believe that the resolution to these issues will reach far beyond the term of the new contract, perhaps decades beyond. From the WGA.org site: (I've only included the three key sticking points, there are many more) <!-- LITERAL 1 --><!--Ektron CMS FormBlock-->![]() The Guild Responds to the Companies' Proposals During MBA negotiations on September 19, 2007, the Guild gave its response to the Companies' so-called Comprehensive Package Proposal. The Companies' proposals are comprised of 32 single-spaced pages containing rollbacks of every fundamental protection writers have won in the last 50 years. Not surprisingly we rejected virtually all of these proposals. We hope that the Companies will drop the posturing and begin serious negotiations so that a fair deal can be reached. What follows is a summary of the “highlights” of the Companies' proposals and the Guild's response.
Basically, we were told that the Companies want the right to stream feature films and television shows in their entirety, and not pay us for our work. Part of our pay structure is residuals. Residuals allow us to live between jobs, i.e., when shows end, get canceled, etc. The same way book authors get paid per paperback sold, or inventors per unit item sold, we rely on residuals as part of our income. One of the ways the Companies apparently rationalize this move is by claiming that the broadcasting of these shows on the internet/cell phones in their entirety is advertising for the shows, therefore they shouldn't have to pay. We all know that the internet is the future; capitulating to the companies demands as outlined above would be, in our opinion, tantamount to career suicide. The DVD issue is pretty clear; we learned a big lesson from the '85 negotiation, which we don't want to repeat with new media in the future.The effects of a strike will be devastating on many levels. Effects on you, the audience: The first thing you'll notice, perhaps as soon as Monday the 5th, are shows such as Leno, Letterman, The Daily Show, SNL, Conan, and other shows produced live or on a daily basis...potentially "going black," or broadcasting reruns. I heard that in the '88 strike, Letterman tried it without writers. Maybe they'll bring in scabs. We'll see. In a few weeks, the Nets will probably be out of one-hour (drama) and sitcom scripts. Even before that, the scripts they do have will be unable to be rewritten. **A bit of perspective on that - when we distribute the first draft of a shooting script, the pages of the script are all white. As changes are made with each revision during the prep process (and even into shooting) each change is done on a different color paper. First pink, then yellow, goldenrod, and so on. I think I can safely say, that in over three years of working on J.A.G. we never had a single white page left in a final shooting script. Feature films have it a bit better - the studios, in anticipation of all this, have been stockpiling scripts for some time. Still, rewrites are common and will not be permitted in the event we strike. Additionally, the Teamsters have issued a statement of support. While they do have a "no-strike" clause, which as a union prohibits them from walking out in sympathy to another union, they are advising their members that they DO NOT have to cross picket lines, and may not face retribution for their refusal to do so. As the Teamsters drive all the trucks, do all the location scouting (on the west coast) and include the casting directors, this support is critical. The Screen Actors Guild is 100% in support of our position and will send members to our picket lines. If a prolonged strike happens, prepare yourselves for a plethora of "reality programs," and news. Economic effects: The effects of a long lasting strike on Southern California could be devastating. We're talking potentially billions in losses. Besides the obvious devastation to the entertainment industry, this would hurt everyone, from restaurant employees, to real estate, car sales, etc. etc. Personally: Two projects I have been working on for the better part of four years are now in serious jeopardy. I had to leave a phone conference with the director and star of one of those features to go to the meeting last evening. The Director's final question to me was, "Do you feel comfortable going to cast with the draft as it is?" Hell no, I don't. I have between now and possibly as soon as this afternoon to get the draft in shape. I'm normally allowed weeks for this kind of work. Years of work, potentially screwed in the eleventh hour, fifty-ninth minute. This is simply devastating and quite painful. I'm not exaggerating when I say that the town is literally in a panic, as I'm sure others who live here and work in the industry will agree. So many people stand to lose their livelihoods. Many of the Producers we're negotiating with I count among my closest friends. This is basically a civil war brewing, and like all wars there will be no winners. That being said, the only thing we want less than a strike is a contract we can't live with. There's so much more I could add here, (dilemma of hyphenates, legal actions threatened, etc.) but I've gone on for too long as it is. I appreciate the opportunity to vent here and discuss this amongst those of you who are interested. I'm sincerely praying for an eleventh hour miracle.
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$0.05 per DVD? That's whack. Greed.
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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As a writer, I can't appreciate what you're experiencing, because I'm not a good-enough writer to let writing be my sole source of income.
![]() On a serious note, I'm sorry you're going through this. I hope things work out for you when the dust settles, and I hope the dust settles soon. Stay strong and please keep us posted. In the mean time, go for a drive. California has too many amazing roads of which you should be taking ample advantage in an attempt to clear your head. ![]()
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Hmmm. From the sound of it, this tug of war will last quite a while. There is a lot at stake, especially with newer (internet, streaming) media. Greed is clearly evident in the companies' position. I completely understand that residuals are important not only to the writers, but to the audience as well, since they are part of a formula that works.
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Good luck Alan, I hope it gets resolved quickly!
I can certainly relate as the internet has opened up a can of worms in my business too
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I'm sorry to hear about the strike, Alan. My best friend is WGA/DGA out there. He had to go through the '88 strike, as well. The "new media" aspects are the most concerning. It's like a crack in a dam that could one day bring the whole thing down. Someday-and it could be soon-all entertainment media could be distributed via "new" methods. I'm glad to see the guilds sticking together. I hope it's resolved soon!
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Alan, my wife was at the convention center last night for the meeting.
She voted against a strike. Fingers crossed..... Take care... Larry
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Yes - Good luck.
You make a good case and I don't thing anyone with even a cursory knowledge of your industry would believe that - of all the players - it is the writers who exploit the system and receive inappropriate levels of payment. I hope you appreciate, however, my potential sacrifice, in supporting your cause. Since I have a "reality show" filter on my TV - it's looking like I'll end up with nothing to watch at all....
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Yes, it seems that way to me as well. It's precisely because we agreed to a relaxed business model (on the then emerging DVD market) by which we got burned, that we're being extra vigilant in regards to new media.
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Curiously, do you get paid per use, or do you work on a "buy out" structure? BTW, has this month's 0-60 come out yet?
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I have as much to lose as anyone right now, as I mentioned in my original post, but I fully support whatever actions we need to take to ensure fair treatment and the future of screenwriters. Again, I'd never strike over "housekeeping" issues, but this is too important. Curiously, was that her position after leaving the meeting? Look, nobody wants a strike. I hate the idea that as adults, we feel we have to put ourselves and everyone else around us through a bunch of pain before coming to the conclusion we will ultimately anyway. It's just childish. Quote:
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Everyone's support means a lot. Members are doing everything we can to get our word out - I probably don't have to tell you that the Companies we're dealing with have a "certain" control over the media, in all forms.
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What else is new. When I was an Assistant to Producers at Fox, they took our vacation and health benies from us (saved them $1 mil. a year). Then turned around and gave Bruce WIllis $20 mil for DIe Hard 2. To help you out can have free cheesesteaks and beer (or yoohoo) through the length of the strike.
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good luck on getting your due.
it doesn't concern me too much as there's precious little that comes thru the ether that i could miss, but you should get paid for your work. i hope it works out ok. sam |
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Not gonna lie that was way too much to read on a Friday, but good luck because I dont want to have to wait a moment longer for Jack Bauer!!! Hope it ends well!
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Alan,
I'm wishing you the best of luck. The producers POV is uncalled for. I've been a member of SAG and AFTRA, right out of college. A long time...long enough to get retirement money from them. I wrote and produced for many years....on different levels. Ownership as well as working for the Nets. Wrote and PRODUCED...if I didn't write it, I had NOTHING to produce. WGA needs to look ahead 20-30 years and become a PRODUCING as well as writing force. I suggested this to writers that I knew in the 70's. If they had gone after it, they may have been in partnership with the producers today. It could have been the Writer's and Producer's Guild. No strike, just hollering at each other over board meetings. In the entertainment industry without the writers...the "producers" have NOTHING to produce. Without the writers, the related industries have no reason to be there. All the others unions that SERVICE the industry become useless and ineffective. Their livelihood lies in backing WGA. I always questioned why the WGA didn't/doesn't go to an outside source on their own (Investment Companies) and become a partner, in a sense, with the producers instead of working FOR them. The writers are the bullets and without them, the gun (producers) is useless. *Metaphor time. Their attitude sucks! The WGA's goals --- be in a strong position ASAP, yet work towards the future! I wonder how negotiations would transpire if Bill Gates suddenly said he would back the WGA for future productions with 5 billion or so...10 billion? |
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Alan,
Sorry it's come down to this. I hope it's over quick, but strikes seldom seem to be. You will be missed. Our union, N.A.B.E.T., (newswriters, photographers and technicians for ABC/Disney in Chicago, LA, NY, SF & Washington) has been without a contract since March 31. Negotiations just broke off and the company has presented it's 'last, best and final' proposal, which is totally unacceptable to us. Jurisdiction, seniority and pension are the major stumbling points. About 10 years ago they locked us out for 11 weeks. It's funny how little management values our abilities and experience. As long as your David Lettermans show up for work, nothing us really matters to them. As long as our 10 o'clock news anchors come to work, people will still watch. Eleven weeks seemed like forever to be without any income. I went through about $15,000 in savings that I was never able to replace.Ten years later, bitterness remains and things will never be the same. They brought in scabs and then hired some after the lockout that we are now forced to work side by side with. Disney will never be happy until they break the union entirely. Nobody really seems to win in a situation like this...but good luck to you and your efforts. Note to anyone: Disney is a fun place to take your kids, but never work for them. |
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