AD07 vs AD048

[Val]

Right now im running AD07 205/225. I find that grip is phenomenal comparing to other street tyres

Last season i used to have 048s 195/225. However i cant compare my track times as i have a turbo now.

I wonder if some of you used both tyres and can give any feedback on the lap times

[kestrel74]

at least 3-5 seconds quicker on a 1.5 mile course with the 48's .......I've run both on the same track. The 48's are great. run them at 26 lb hot all around

[insane]

Originally Posted by Val

Right now im running AD07 205/225. I find that grip is phenomenal comparing to other street tyres

Last season i used to have 048s 195/225. However i cant compare my track times as i have a turbo now.

I wonder if some of you used both tyres and can give any feedback on the lap times

Yeah.... because you can get AD07 205s.... I'd get 'em too -- if I could....

[jlee]

i think just the surface area on the sport vs non sport package makes a huge difference in grip. I run the AD07s on the street and A048s on the track, i can't imagine running the AD07s on the track given the understeer i get but apparently some of you guys do it...the stickiness factor on the A048s is significantly more than the Ad07s

..

Jeff

[fishguy]

R compound vs. street compound tires arent they?
if so, there should be a giant difference.
comparing apples to oranges

[Charles Rozier]

I have run both the base/AD07 and track pack/048 at Lime Rock (1.5 miles) on the same car. A year apart though.

I saw a 1.5-2 sec difference (1.5 mile track). Both setups were lots of fun and very drivable on track. Understeer, though more pronounced w base setup, was only really an issue on long slow corners; the rest of the time you can easily avoid it by good corner entry.

[ervsch]

Originally Posted by Charles Rozier

Both setups were lots of fun and very drivable on track. Understeer, though more pronounced w base setup, was only really an issue on long slow corners; the rest of the time you can easily avoid it by good corner entry.

+1

I've only run on the AD07s - but I have a blast with the base set up. True, I'm sure I'm dealing with more understeer - but I think in general it's made me a more precise driver, and not that much slower than drivers running the 048s.

[roadrunner]

Moving from stock (touring..? ) AD07 sizes (175 fronts) to sport pack A048 sizes (195 fronts) but in the M compound got me 2 seconds per lap on a 1 mile course.

[cpforyou]

Originally Posted by insane

Yeah.... because you can get AD07 205s.... I'd get 'em too -- if I could....

Maybe Val would be willing to ship a few over to us?

[Val]

You can get them from Japan

Hmm... Half of people say little difference, half say world apart

[TimMullen]

Originally Posted by roadrunner

Moving from stock (touring..? ) AD07 sizes

Nope. Caught you...

[xtn]

Originally Posted by Val

Hmm... Half of people say little difference, half say world apart

"Little difference," and, "World apart," can be describing the same thing.

Let's assume you're turning a 60 second laptime somewhere. You slap on the A048 tires and start turning a 58 second laptime.

Do you say, "Oh, it's only two measly seconds?"

Or do you say, "Damn! Two whole seconds!!!"

xtn

[fishguy]

Originally Posted by Val

You can get them from Japan

Hmm... Half of people say little difference, half say world apart

val, truth is what a tire can do, and what a given person can do with a tire are 2 worlds apart.
I again stick to my prior post saying a street compound tire and an R compound tires are worlds apart in what the tire can do. what drivers can do with the tires is a different story. pushing a tire, and pushing a tires to its traction limits is an art. I dont claim to be an artist.

[Val]

Yep i see what you mean guys my bad im more like a wall painter

Btw, are michelin pilot cup r-compound? Many people put them in the same league as ad07, but they look a lot more aggressive at least from the outside