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Brake Pads master list

As the title suggests.... I want a clear and concise location for brakes. Please help as much as you can. So this will be a work in progress.
(Rotors too if you wish) To add to an existing product i've listed, please PM.

Brand: CL (Carbone Lorraine)
Pad name: RC6

Purpose: Both, track bias
(street/track/both)

Coefficient of Friction: ~.5

Material: Sintered Metal

Bed in: The only recommended bed-in after install is to do a few moderately hard stops to seat the pads flush with the rotor face.
(y/n/notes)

Dusting: High
Pad Wear: Moderate
Rotor Wear: Moderate
Noise: High
Max operating Tempt: 1800 F


Compatibility: Elise/Exige
(notes/issues)

Vendor links:
http://sector111.com/products/performance/brake_bits/
Essex Racing Parts
BOE Fabrication - Lotus Elise, Exige, and Evora Performance ECM Tuning Products

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Brand: CL (Carbone Lorraine)
Pad name: RC5+

Purpose: Both, street bias
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Coefficient of Friction: .40-.43

Material: Sintered Metal

Bed in: The only recommended bed-in after install is to do a few moderately hard stops to seat the pads flush with the rotor face.
(y/n/notes)

Dusting: Moderate
Pad Wear: Low
Rotor Wear: Low
Noise: Low to Moderate
Max operating Tempt: 1800 F


Compatibility: Elise/Exige
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Vendor links:
http://sector111.com/products/performance/brake_bits/
BOE Fabrication - Lotus Elise, Exige, and Evora Performance ECM Tuning Products
http://www.essexparts.com/catalogsea..._add_to_cart=0

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Brand: CL (Carbone Lorraine)
Pad name: RC8

Purpose: Track
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Coefficient of Friction: .6

Material: Sintered Metal

Bed in: The only recommended bed-in after install is to do a few moderately hard stops to seat the pads flush with the rotor face.
(y/n/notes)

Dusting: High
Pad Wear: Moderate
Rotor Wear: Moderate
Noise: High
Max operating Tempt: 1800 F


Compatibility: Elise/Exige
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Vendor links:
http://www.essexparts.com/catalogsea..._add_to_cart=0
BOE Fabrication - Lotus Elise, Exige, and Evora Performance ECM Tuning Products

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Brand: CL (Carbone Lorraine)
Pad name: RC6E Endurance

Purpose: Both
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Coefficient of Friction: ~.48
Material: Sintered Metal

Bed in: The only recommended bed-in after install is to do a few moderately hard stops to seat the pads flush with the rotor face.
(y/n/notes)

Dusting: High
Pad Wear: Very Low
Rotor Wear: Low
Noise: High
Max operating Tempt: 1800 F


Compatibility: Elise/Exige
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Vendor links:
http://sector111.com/products/performance/brake_bits/
BOE Fabrication - Lotus Elise, Exige, and Evora Performance ECM Tuning Products
http://www.essexparts.com/catalogsea..._add_to_cart=0

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Brand: Carbotech
Pad name: XP8
Purpose: Track
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Coefficient of Friction: .58 to .60

Material: Ceramic

Bed in: XP-Series Compounds :
1. All new brake pads require a bedding process, start this process by pumping your brakes a few times to assure proper installation. Once on track perform several moderate (medium) near stops (to a very slow rolling speed) to thoroughly warm up the pads and rotors. This should take 1-2 laps. This allows a thin layer of the pad material to be transferred into the micro-grooves of the rotor.
2. After the pads/rotors are warm, perform a series of hard near stops (to a slow rolling speed) until some brake fade is felt. This process should take about 2-4 laps (depending on the track). Once this occurs, then stay off the brakes (as much as possible) and bring your car into the pits/paddock to completely cool. Do not lock the tires during this operation.
3.Allow brake pads and/or rotors cool down to ambient temperatures; no less than 30 minutes. The total bedding procedure should not take more than 5-6 laps or about 10-15 minutes.

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Dusting: Moderate to High
Pad Wear: "Longer brake pad and rotor life"
Rotor Wear: "Longer brake pad and rotor life"
Noise: High
Max operating Tempt: 1350 F


Compatibility: Elise/Exige
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Vendor links:
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OAKOS Automotive - STi & WRX Performance Parts: Brakes
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Brand: Carbotech
Pad name: XP10
Purpose: Track
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Coefficient of Friction: .63 to .65
Material: Ceramic

Bed in: XP-Series Compounds :
1. All new brake pads require a bedding process, start this process by pumping your brakes a few times to assure proper installation. Once on track perform several moderate (medium) near stops (to a very slow rolling speed) to thoroughly warm up the pads and rotors. This should take 1-2 laps. This allows a thin layer of the pad material to be transferred into the micro-grooves of the rotor.
2. After the pads/rotors are warm, perform a series of hard near stops (to a slow rolling speed) until some brake fade is felt. This process should take about 2-4 laps (depending on the track). Once this occurs, then stay off the brakes (as much as possible) and bring your car into the pits/paddock to completely cool. Do not lock the tires during this operation.
3.Allow brake pads and/or rotors cool down to ambient temperatures; no less than 30 minutes. The total bedding procedure should not take more than 5-6 laps or about 10-15 minutes.

(y/n/notes)

Dusting: Moderate to High
Pad Wear: "Longer brake pad and rotor life"
Rotor Wear: "Longer brake pad and rotor life"
Noise: High
Max operating Tempt: 1700 F


Compatibility: Elise/Exige
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Vendor links:
http://www.ctbrakes.com/pads.asp?Make=Lotus
OAKOS Automotive - STi & WRX Performance Parts: Brakes
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Brand: Carbotech
Pad name: XP12
Purpose: Track
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Coefficient of Friction: .65 to .67
Material: Ceramic

Bed in: XP-Series Compounds :
1. All new brake pads require a bedding process, start this process by pumping your brakes a few times to assure proper installation. Once on track perform several moderate (medium) near stops (to a very slow rolling speed) to thoroughly warm up the pads and rotors. This should take 1-2 laps. This allows a thin layer of the pad material to be transferred into the micro-grooves of the rotor.
2. After the pads/rotors are warm, perform a series of hard near stops (to a slow rolling speed) until some brake fade is felt. This process should take about 2-4 laps (depending on the track). Once this occurs, then stay off the brakes (as much as possible) and bring your car into the pits/paddock to completely cool. Do not lock the tires during this operation.
3.Allow brake pads and/or rotors cool down to ambient temperatures; no less than 30 minutes. The total bedding procedure should not take more than 5-6 laps or about 10-15 minutes.

(y/n/notes)

Dusting: Moderate to High
Pad Wear: "Longer brake pad and rotor life"
Rotor Wear: "Longer brake pad and rotor life"
Noise: High
Max operating Temp: 2000 F


Compatibility: Elise/Exige
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Vendor links:
http://www.ctbrakes.com/pads.asp?Make=Lotus
OAKOS Automotive - STi & WRX Performance Parts: Brakes
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2005 Lotus Elise
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That is crazy 1800-2000*! I have caught brakes on fire with much lower temps than that... like 700-800*
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Well now you know

Brand: EBC
Pad name: GREENSTUFF

Purpose: Street
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Coefficient of Friction: .55(average)
>Varies dramatically<

Material: aramid fibre

Bed in: Yes
(y/n/notes)

Dusting: Moderate
Pad Wear: Moderate
Rotor Wear: Moderate
Noise: ?
Max operating Tempt: 1100 F


Compatibility: Elise/Exige
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Vendor links:
Parts Exige S2 s brakes - Hangar 111
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Brand: EBC
Pad name: REDSTUFF

Purpose: Street
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Coefficient of Friction: .5(average)


Material: KevlarŪ fibre based brake compound enhanced with ceramic particles

Bed in: Being a hard wearing pad, bed-in times can be as long as 1000 miles and drivers must be patient until the pad takes up the shape of their disc (brake rotor). This is a truly impressive fast road pad for repeated heavy braking.

(y/n/notes)

Dusting: Low
Pad Wear: Moderate
Rotor Wear:
Noise: ?
Max operating Tempt: 1380


Compatibility: Elise/Exige
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Vendor links:
Parts Exige S2 s brakes - Hangar 111

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Brand: EBC
Pad name: Yellowstuff

Purpose: Both
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Coefficient of Friction: .5 cold, decrease with heat


Material: KevlarŪ fibre based brake compound enhanced with ceramic particles

Bed in: Yes
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Dusting: High
Pad Wear: Moderate
Rotor Wear:
Noise: ?
Max operating Tempt: 1440(coefficient of friction at .21 at this temp)


Compatibility: Elise/Exige
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Vendor links:
EBC Yellowstuff Brake Pads - Lotus Elise/Exige Rear - EBC-DP48852R van EBC - Monkeywrench Racing -
Lotus Elise EBC Yellowstuff Street And Track Brake Pads from HorsepowerFreaks
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Brand: Raybestos
Pad name: ST-43
Purpose: Track
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Coefficient of Friction: .65


Material: Carbon Kevlar

Bed in: Y
(y/n/notes)

Dusting: High
Pad Wear: "excellent"
Rotor Wear: "low rotor wear"
Noise: ?
Max operating Tempt: 1400


Compatibility: Elise/Exige
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Vendor links:
Brake rotors and pads for Lotus - Blackwatch Racing, Lotus Performance Parts
http://shop.britishracinggroup.com/Brakes_c9.htm

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Brand: Endless
Pad name: MX72

Purpose: Both, track bias
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Coefficient of Friction: 0.4 - 0.5

Material: Ceramic Carbon Metal Compound

Bed in:
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Dusting: Moderate
Pad Wear: Low
Rotor Wear: Moderate
Noise: Low/None (if no friction material on disc yet or if friction material removed by lots of slow speed stops and no high speed high heat stops then Noise is HIGH)
Max operating Tempt: 1300 F


Compatibility: Elise/Exige

** First stop performance is poor when ambient temperature is < 60 F, once disc is warm (second stop) then brake performance returns.
** Good modulation, Good stopping power, have encountered Ice mode on track while using these pads. (notes/issues)

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Brake rotors, pads & kits for street/race use from Powerbrake USA (for you guys, may be others)

'06 111R with Endless MX72 brake pads front and rear and Lotus Driving Academy 1:1 tuition from Martin Donnelly.
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Brand: Pagid
Pad name: RS4-2 BLUE

Purpose: Both
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Coefficient of Friction: .4-.46 (cold-max)

Material: Carbon

Bed in: Guidance On Bedding In Procedure.
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Dusting: ?
Pad Wear: Good
Rotor Wear: Good
Noise: Little to none
Max operating Temp: 940 F


Compatibility: Elise/Exige http://www.sector111.com/Brake%20Matrix.htm
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Vendor links:
Pagid RS 4-2 Blue Lotus Brake Pads for the Lotus Elise and Exige - Sector111.com
340R Exige Elise 2-Eleven Pagid RS 4-2 Brake Pads - Rear | Hangar 111
Pagid Front Brake Pads, Lotus Brakes - Blackwatch Racinghttp://shop.britishracinggroup.com/Brakes_c9.htm

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Brand: Pagid
Pad name: RS4-14 Black

Purpose: Track
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Coefficient of Friction: .44-.54 (cold-max)

Material: Carbon Ceramic

Bed in: Guidance On Bedding In Procedure.
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Dusting: ?
Pad Wear: "RS14, while showing a reduction in pad wear, particularly at high temperatures...."
Rotor Wear: Good(on track, otherwise eats rotors)
Noise: Squeal on street
Max operating Temp: 1472 F


Compatibility: Elise/Exige http://www.sector111.com/Brake%20Matrix.htm
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Vendor links:
Brake rotors and pads for Lotus - Blackwatch Racing, Lotus Performance Parts
Elise Exige 340R 2-Eleven Pagid RS14 Brake Pads - Front | Hangar 111
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Almost no company will not give you coefficient of friction versus both temperature and pressure - with only cold coefficients shown.

So your list is mostly qualitative, which is subject to bias.
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What brand are the stock brakes?

The dusting is terrible with them, would like to find something else that I don't need to constantly clean my wheels! Doesn't clean easy either, almost eats into the wheels.

This is the first vehicles I have owned that I have had brake dust build up. I last washed my truck probably 35,000 miles ago and the wheels have no dust. I did about 30 miles worth of autocross over Memorial weekend and the wheels are nearly red from all the dust.

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"What brand are the stock brakes?"
I still(but not for long) have OEM pads. They are brembos. High dust, tons of pedal travel on the track. No real complaints though, they have been consistent at least whether hot or cold.
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I thought they were fine, but an experienced driver drove me car and said the brakes were terrible. I'm used to running heavy equipment/tractor trailers, etc so hard for me to judge I guess!
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If you can find someone with a brake dyno to some real testing versus temp and pressure then this could be a fantastic set of data.
I have sent an email to find a brake dyno.

You would need some rotors that are pre bedded.

We would need some way to fund that testing.
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