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Old 11-04-2006, 01:14 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Better turn-in, more responsive steering -- a little toe-out in front is even better.
Uh, I think the question was camber, not toe.


-0.1/-0.3 spec'd up front.

The average driver's natural tendency is better suited to a car that pushes so it's a safer set-up for a road car.

A little more camber is a good thing for a car that sees "off-highway" use.
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Old 11-04-2006, 02:33 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Uh, I think the question was camber, not toe.
Oooops -- my bad.

I agree with Cody -- factory spec of zero (or little) negative camber in front promotes more of an understeering car.

I run max. negative camber up front.
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Old 11-05-2006, 10:02 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Old 11-05-2006, 11:46 AM   #125 (permalink)
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I was amazed at how loose those bolts were when I was changing my oil last month. I doubt they were at 30ft/lbs torque. Probably had them on there way to getting loose by running hard at LRP in June. Had me knocking out consistent 63-64's which is getting well into the cabailities of the car. I recommend all people check this!! It took ~ a full turn to get up to 50ft/lbs!
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Old 11-05-2006, 11:48 AM   #126 (permalink)
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I was amazed at how loose those bolts were when I was changing my oil last month. I doubt they were at 30ft/lbs torque. Probably had them on there way to getting loose by running hard at LRP in June. Had me knocking out consistent 63-64's which is getting well into the cabailities of the car. I recommend all people check this!! It took ~ a full turn to get up to 50ft/lbs!
Umm. You've overtightened it. The old spec was 50 Nm, now 60 Nm.

The current spec is 44 ft/lbs. Not 50.
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It took ~ a full turn to get up to 50ft/lbs!
50 ft/lbs is too much.
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Track Pack Setup

Hi Mark. Just took delivery of an Exige S in SoCal. I previously
owned an N/A Exige and the suspension seems stiffer on my S.
Are the Track Pack components on the S exactly the same as
the N/A car and if so do you recommend the same Road Settings/
Track settings as outlined in your helpful suspension set-up guidelines.
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Hi Mark. Just took delivery of an Exige S in SoCal. I previously
owned an N/A Exige and the suspension seems stiffer on my S.
Are the Track Pack components on the S exactly the same as
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Hi Mark. Just took delivery of an Exige S in SoCal. I previously
owned an N/A Exige and the suspension seems stiffer on my S.
Are the Track Pack components on the S exactly the same as
the N/A car and if so do you recommend the same Road Settings/
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Old 12-11-2006, 08:25 AM   #132 (permalink)
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Hi there. I have an Elise Sport and I haven't been able to find the knob here. I see something that looks sort of like the knob pictured but it is black and doesn't have any numbers on it. Also, I haven't adjusted it at all, but after two months the suspension seems to have gotten softer. The steering isn't as tight as it was when I bought the car. Until the other day it was just kind of loose, but now its a good deal looser. Not quite as loose as my stock WRX, but getting close... Any ideas?
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Hi there. I have an Elise Sport and I haven't been able to find the knob here. I see something that looks sort of like the knob pictured but it is black and doesn't have any numbers on it.
You have different shocks on the Elise Sport. I believe that you have the Ohlin double adjustables -- not the single adjustable Bilstein/Eibach setup that comes with the track pack option.
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Old 12-11-2006, 09:37 AM   #134 (permalink)
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Ah, that makes sense, it does say Ohlin on the canisters, duh. Here are pictures, for everyone's enjoyment. So I looked in the elise manual pdf that is on-line (the one that is downloadable for $25) and couldn't find anything in there about how to adjust these. Anyone know where to get the gouge?

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Thanks for the pic. I was able to blow up that pic and read the part number on the remote canister. That solves that mystery. The Lotus Sport Ohlins are D50's. Sector 111 sells the F12's. According to the Ohlins website, the F12's are longer and also have a longer stroke. Jack, I'm still waiting for what's on the 240R?
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So I looked in the elise manual pdf that is on-line (the one that is downloadable for $25) and couldn't find anything in there about how to adjust these.
Click on the link in post #12

http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/show...ghlight=Ohlins
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Jack, I'm still waiting for what's on the 240R?
Bruce -- how about a front canister # -- With my bad eyesight, I believe it says BLS3C60025.

Does that help?
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Bruce -- how about a front canister # -- With my bad eyesight, I believe it says BLS3C60025.

Does that help?
Is there another no. above it? Maybe beginning with LOV?
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Is there another no. above it? Maybe beginning with LOV?

I'll have to get back to you on that.....
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Old 01-07-2007, 03:58 PM   #140 (permalink)
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The Elise must settle a lot on the suspension with 150kg of weight in it and a full tank of fuel. I lowered my car 5mm compared to the LSS ride height when I installed my shocks and I checked it today with 1/2 tank of fuel and no one it it. It is 144mm in the front and 145mm in the rear at the chassis rails.
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