New rotors and pads installed, first impressions - LotusTalk

erics75218 · 04-23-2009, 11:15 AM

I had to get all new, all around, which didn't make me happy since new rotors and pads is $$$

Between stock, and the Sector111 rotors I decided to buy the setup from lotusbrakes.com. They were super nice and easy to deal with. I got 4 of these..

Product Details for DBA 5000 Two-Piece Slotted Rotors - Pair (52355SLR)

I guess they weigh less than stock, but not quite as light as the sector111. However they are cheaper than the sector brakes, so it all evens out. I wish I knew the exact weight of these v.s. all the rest. I believe I read somewhere they save 6lbs a corner...v.s. 10 or so for the sector111.

I did Pagid RS14 pads.......and boy oh BOY.

THIS SETUP ROCKS!!!! I can't even begin to tell you how awesome this car stops now. GRANTED, I went from dead brakes to brand spakin' new awesome, so take that into account.

But all that being said, I'm in brake love right now.

I'm gonna take it up to the canyons this Sunday to get a better feel.

But I just wanted to post alittle review

Lotusbrakes.com THUMBS UP
DBA 5000 Rotors THUMBS UP
Pagid rs14s THUMBS UP

RCHAD · 04-23-2009, 12:03 PM

how is the brake dust compared to stock??

jimmyhoffa · 04-23-2009, 12:13 PM

And how squeaky are they?

erics75218 · 04-23-2009, 01:02 PM

I've only been driving on them for a bit.

The wheels were clean yesterday I'll post a brake dust report after sundays romp.

I was told that these pads were going to be a bit more noisy...so far I've heard a squeek exactly once. Other than that time....just normal "friction" noise.

BTW these rotors look great too. I need to do something cosmetic to the calipers to make them not stand out so much

Rennstore · 04-23-2009, 02:16 PM

It's the pads - Blacks have HUGE friction!

erics75218 · 04-24-2009, 01:06 PM

First let me do something I should have in my first post. GIve a little shout out to Stephan over at Mullholland Motors. As always, first rate dude and first rate service.

Second, i know about the noise now. If you like to drive at a leisurly pace, kind of riding teh brakes to a stop kinda whenever....lazy style..they squeak. BUT, if you drive like a man, hehe, no squeaking what'so'ever!

MulhollandMotors · 04-24-2009, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erics75218

First let me do something I should have in my first post. GIve a little shout out to Stephan over at Mullholland Motors. As always, first rate dude and first rate service.

Second, i know about the noise now. If you like to drive at a leisurly pace, kind of riding teh brakes to a stop kinda whenever....lazy style..they squeak. BUT, if you drive like a man, hehe, no squeaking what'so'ever!

Eyelise · 04-24-2009, 05:01 PM

I've been on the Pagid blacks for 10K of track miles. I have been very pleased. The dust is considerable, the sqeaking mild, but the braking is phenomenal. I'm going to buy my second set shortly. Oh and don't forget the Motul 600 and SS brake lines. These are cheap upgrades that make a huge performance difference.

Rennstore · 04-29-2009, 02:33 PM

Absolutely. People love them - great advice on the fluid and lines also -

doma · 04-29-2009, 03:48 PM

I've been using Pagid blacks on the street + track. I totally agree with the statement above re squeak... if you slowly glide to a stop at a light they will squeak ... but not very bad. Brake hard, and they don't make any noise. Dust is much better than stock but there's still some. Cold or hot, the grip is great.

I stopped using the R4S porterfields cause when they were cold I wasn't getting much grip.

I noticed my Pagid Blacks came with a warning that they were not DOT approved / not for the street. Is that because of the noise? Or are they made of poison or something? Just wonderin.

-doma

VisualEchos · 04-29-2009, 04:53 PM

lotusbrakes · 05-06-2009, 10:19 AM

The DBA 5000 are definitely nice, get some pictures for us

Glad you like em!

-G

tcnohead · 05-06-2009, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rennstore

It's the pads - Blacks have HUGE friction!

What is the life of the rotors because of this? i understood high friction pads wreak havoc on rotors.

karajabola · 06-23-2009, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcnohead

What is the life of the rotors because of this? i understood high friction pads wreak havoc on rotors.

I would like to know this too. I'm trying to decide between RS14's and RS 4-2's.

Can anyone comment on rotor wear for the RS14's? Thanks.

Rennstore · 06-23-2009, 09:46 AM

Well, my customers report back that the Blacks aren't bad a all on the rotors - and the grip and bite is phenomenal as noted above --

Craig

Eyelise · 06-24-2009, 07:21 AM

It may be a little more than OEM but not significant. I have 10K of miles with the blacks on my rotors and will just replace the pads. I think 15-20K is certainly possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by karajabola

I would like to know this too. I'm trying to decide between RS14's and RS 4-2's.

Can anyone comment on rotor wear for the RS14's? Thanks.

EricH · 10-27-2009, 04:43 AM

The RS14s were OEM on my '08 S240, I LOVED them both at the track and on the street. Several have said they squeek, mine never did. I did break them in per procedure. I just finished them off and despite the price ordered more (not installed yet) as I did not want to risk getting pads I would not be happy with.

04-23-2009, 11:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
erics75218 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 570	New rotors and pads installed, first impressions I had to get all new, all around, which didn't make me happy since new rotors and pads is $$$ Between stock, and the Sector111 rotors I decided to buy the setup from lotusbrakes.com. They were super nice and easy to deal with. I got 4 of these.. Product Details for DBA 5000 Two-Piece Slotted Rotors - Pair (52355SLR) I guess they weigh less than stock, but not quite as light as the sector111. However they are cheaper than the sector brakes, so it all evens out. I wish I knew the exact weight of these v.s. all the rest. I believe I read somewhere they save 6lbs a corner...v.s. 10 or so for the sector111. I did Pagid RS14 pads.......and boy oh BOY. THIS SETUP ROCKS!!!! I can't even begin to tell you how awesome this car stops now. GRANTED, I went from dead brakes to brand spakin' new awesome, so take that into account. But all that being said, I'm in brake love right now. I'm gonna take it up to the canyons this Sunday to get a better feel. But I just wanted to post alittle review Lotusbrakes.com THUMBS UP DBA 5000 Rotors THUMBS UP Pagid rs14s THUMBS UP

04-23-2009, 12:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
RCHAD 400HPFOCUS Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: RIVERTON UTAH Posts: 158	how is the brake dust compared to stock?? __________________ "HE WHO SAYS IT CANNOT BE DONE SHOULD NEVER INTERRUPT THE ONE WHO IS DOING IT" R.R.E RIP

04-23-2009, 12:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
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04-23-2009, 02:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rennstore Living for track days Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 286	It's the pads - Blacks have HUGE friction! __________________ Craig

04-29-2009, 02:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rennstore Living for track days Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 286	Absolutely. People love them - great advice on the fluid and lines also - __________________ Craig

04-23-2009, 01:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
erics75218 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 570	I've only been driving on them for a bit. The wheels were clean yesterday I'll post a brake dust report after sundays romp. I was told that these pads were going to be a bit more noisy...so far I've heard a squeek exactly once. Other than that time....just normal "friction" noise. BTW these rotors look great too. I need to do something cosmetic to the calipers to make them not stand out so much

04-24-2009, 01:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
erics75218 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 570	First let me do something I should have in my first post. GIve a little shout out to Stephan over at Mullholland Motors. As always, first rate dude and first rate service. Second, i know about the noise now. If you like to drive at a leisurly pace, kind of riding teh brakes to a stop kinda whenever....lazy style..they squeak. BUT, if you drive like a man, hehe, no squeaking what'so'ever!

04-24-2009, 05:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Eyelise Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mass Posts: 1,129	I've been on the Pagid blacks for 10K of track miles. I have been very pleased. The dust is considerable, the sqeaking mild, but the braking is phenomenal. I'm going to buy my second set shortly. Oh and don't forget the Motul 600 and SS brake lines. These are cheap upgrades that make a huge performance difference.

04-29-2009, 03:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
doma '05 SY #0038 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Belmont, CA Posts: 2,260 Images: 6	I've been using Pagid blacks on the street + track. I totally agree with the statement above re squeak... if you slowly glide to a stop at a light they will squeak ... but not very bad. Brake hard, and they don't make any noise. Dust is much better than stock but there's still some. Cold or hot, the grip is great. I stopped using the R4S porterfields cause when they were cold I wasn't getting much grip. I noticed my Pagid Blacks came with a warning that they were not DOT approved / not for the street. Is that because of the noise? Or are they made of poison or something? Just wonderin. -doma __________________ Braille Battery - Micromirror - Alpine Head Unit & Speakers - HID Headlights - H&T Pad - Snorkel Delete - Non Dust Brake Pads - JL Stealthbox - JL Amps - Sirius Sat - Rudolph Antlers and Nose Kit Astronomy Picture of the Day

04-29-2009, 04:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
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05-06-2009, 10:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
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06-23-2009, 09:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
Rennstore Living for track days Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 286	Well, my customers report back that the Blacks aren't bad a all on the rotors - and the grip and bite is phenomenal as noted above -- Craig __________________ Craig Last edited by Administrator : 10-27-2009 at 10:16 AM. Reason: Removed link to NSV Site

10-27-2009, 04:43 AM	#17 (permalink)
EricH Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 617	The RS14s were OEM on my '08 S240, I LOVED them both at the track and on the street. Several have said they squeek, mine never did. I did break them in per procedure. I just finished them off and despite the price ordered more (not installed yet) as I did not want to risk getting pads I would not be happy with. __________________ Click links to see my 2008 Lotus Exige-S 240 , '99 M3, 505rwhp '89 Mustang ( sold) , '05 WRX STI ( sold) homepages or here for my M3 vid (11MB)

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