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Old 02-23-2009, 06:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sachs Supspension is Back for Lotus!

We're reintroducing what we believe to be the best street oriented sport suspension for the Lotus. Sach's Single Adjustable coilovers are a fantastic solution that adds comfort and ride height ability to your Lotus. They are a priced well at $1495. Superb quality! See more info here: Sachs


Plenty of adjustment to set the ride quality to your liking.
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I know that on my Ducati, the stock Sachs shock is the first thing to replace to get it to handle better. Do they make a few different "quality" levels, because I thought their products were more "oem" quality than top notch aftermarket?
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A lot of companies have OEM - class products as well as upgrades. I can't speak for Sachs, but it is not uncommon for manufacturers to produce lower-spec products for mass production, such as Sachs on Ducati.
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Old 02-24-2009, 04:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I know that on my Ducati, the stock Sachs shock is the first thing to replace to get it to handle better. Do they make a few different "quality" levels, because I thought their products were more "oem" quality than top notch aftermarket?
Yes, these are OEM-like in their build quality and expected longevity. Most race shocks need regular rebuilds. Note how the eyelets have rubber seals - this is great for those people who live in inclement weather - an OEM feature.

Since these are adjustable for compression/rebound and ride height adjustable, they provide better tuning capability that the stock suspension.
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I have them on my car.....great handling...but they DO bottom out once in a while on bad bumps. TVACC I believe you have the same symptoms ? ( may be the setting....any suggestions ? ) ( 8 - 10 )
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ahhh nice. I'm a bit confused...so compression/rebound are both adjustable, but only AT the same time, hence "single adjustable" ??
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ahhh nice. I'm a bit confused...so compression/rebound are both adjustable, but only AT the same time, hence "single adjustable" ??
Correct. No tools required.
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I have them on my car.....great handling...but they DO bottom out once in a while on bad bumps. TVACC I believe you have the same symptoms ? ( may be the setting....any suggestions ? ) ( 8 - 10 )
Yes...I have the same setup. Love the ride and love the handling. But like on our ride today I hit several spots where it bottomed out terribly.

I am contacting Sachs about this. It is not acceptable to me. I have tried every setting I can think of. I am worried about damaging the mountings for the shocks. That is how HARD the bump is.
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Yes...I have the same setup. Love the ride and love the handling. But like on our ride today I hit several spots where it bottomed out terribly.

I am contacting Sachs about this. It is not acceptable to me. I have tried every setting I can think of. I am worried about damaging the mountings for the shocks. That is how HARD the bump is.
I just ordered the last available set and THEN discovered this thread....
I'm wondering...Does it bottom out in the front or the rear? The minimum spring rate in the front is much softer than stock and the minimum spring rate in back is much stiffer than stock. I'm mainly getting these for ease of ride height adjustability, so I'm wondering if they can be used with the stock springs?
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AutoEurope is supposed to be checking mine out ( whenever I can get it IN )... Tom said that they adjusted the front end too low. So, it's not a shock problem, it was in the setup.
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Old 07-03-2009, 04:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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AutoEurope is supposed to be checking mine out ( whenever I can get it IN )... Tom said that they adjusted the front end too low. So, it's not a shock problem, it was in the setup.
I am going to have to bring mine back as well. I hope it is not the shocks for except for the bottoming....they are great.

I have been talking to Tom as well. He was going to work on your car before he tackled mine. I am in Buffalo, so it is not just a quick drive over.
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I've had a set of Sachs for about a year. They bottom out frequently. Too frequently. The front spring coils are touching for nearly half of the spring out of the box. Coils that touch offer zero compression. If they touch out of the box, add zero rebound.

To get a sense what I'm talking about, here's a photo that Tony (tvacc) provided in another thread. The coilover in the foreground is for the front.



However I notice with the photos posted by Shinoo, the coils don't appear to be touching as badly although perhaps it's perspective.

Shinoo, can you read the part number that is on the springs in the Sachs setup? I want to compare them to the ones I bought last year. Thanks.
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Here's another photo with the Sachs mounted on the car.
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I find that both the front and rear bottom.

I would also like to know if the springs are different from what I have. If they are, I would have them replaced.
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wow, are the springs too soft?
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I've dealt with bottoming springs in a previous car, and the constant "clack clack" noise got annoying after a while, enough to make me want to swap the springs out for a non-progressive setup.

It helps to split clear tubing and cover the offending coils with it--it greatly lessens the noise.
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The closed coils serve as Tender Springs to keep the springs seated during full droop ..... they are suppose to be touching when loaded.

If the stock springs do happen to be the right diameter they'll most likely be loose at full droop (at your desired ride height).
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OOPS...........May have had major shock problems at this weeks track day... possibly a blown shock ??? AutoEurope will be checking out next week. ( Sachs )..........I'll keep you posted.
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