Screw in my Tire - LotusTalk

Capo · 06-21-2009, 05:25 AM

Picked up a screw in my rear A048. Not losing air. Looks like a straightforward plug scenario. In that I use these for track days, what are y'all's thoughts on plug vs replace?

Dragon · 06-21-2009, 05:34 AM

There was a military training area in Germany where the tree huggers used to throw nails with washers welded to the end of them in the mud and dirt roads. Unfortunately this was also the area where we played paintball. We would always walk the road first and usually pick up a few hundred of them before driving in. Even doing this we used to get them in our tires quite often. I had a plug kit in my trunk to do on site repairs and then run on the autobahn at 120 mph all the time. I actually had one tire with 16 plugs in it at one time. Never had an issue or leak.

TheViper · 06-21-2009, 05:34 AM

Never plug unless it's an emergency to get you home. Plugging may be illegal in most states due to safety failure reasons. The correct method is to patch the tire on the inside if it's in the tread.
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Originally Posted by Capo

Picked up a screw in my rear A048. Not losing air. Looks like a straightforward plug scenario. In that I use these for track days, what are y'all's thoughts on plug vs replace?

azmurciev12 · 06-21-2009, 08:06 AM

a lot of people are against plugging but i had my lambo rear tires plugged once and i've ran it to 200 miles many times over without any problems. i've also plugged the a048 and ran them on the track past their wearbars with no problems at all.

although it's better safe than sorry so if you can patch it up from the inside, so much the better.

ads_green · 06-21-2009, 08:34 AM

The internal patch with combined plugs are by far the best. Done properly these are stronger than the original rubber.

Capo · 06-21-2009, 01:51 PM

Thanks for the replies guys. I should have said 'repair' generically rather than 'plug' to include patching. Will save me quite a bit vs new set, so appreciate your input...will report back.

Chococar · 06-22-2009, 08:56 PM

Odds of a problem on the track with a repaired tire are low, but the consequences of a failure could be high. What's your life worth?

I bought a new pair of tires when it happened to me.

Good luck!

Chili Red · 06-22-2009, 10:19 PM

Ive plugged 2 different tires on my lotus and tracked them both extensively without issue.

xtn · 06-23-2009, 08:37 AM

Same here Chilli.

But it COULD lead to disaster. Probably won't, but if the right nail/screw went through just right and split one of the steel belts, it could mean big trouble at speed. Low probability, but high risk situation if it does happen.

xtn

06-21-2009, 05:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
Capo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sea Girt, NJ Posts: 52	Screw in my Tire Picked up a screw in my rear A048. Not losing air. Looks like a straightforward plug scenario. In that I use these for track days, what are y'all's thoughts on plug vs replace? __________________ "No, Donny, these men are nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of." 2006 Elise- Chili Red 2006 Infiniti M35 Sport/ 1999 Miata A couple of Hinckley Bonnevilles/ '89 Honda GB 500

06-21-2009, 05:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dragon Hydrocarbons Rule Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Okinawa Japan Posts: 1,742 Images: 2	There was a military training area in Germany where the tree huggers used to throw nails with washers welded to the end of them in the mud and dirt roads. Unfortunately this was also the area where we played paintball. We would always walk the road first and usually pick up a few hundred of them before driving in. Even doing this we used to get them in our tires quite often. I had a plug kit in my trunk to do on site repairs and then run on the autobahn at 120 mph all the time. I actually had one tire with 16 plugs in it at one time. Never had an issue or leak. __________________ 2006 Exige; BWR Supercharger, Adj Sway Bar, Ohlins Suspension, BSK Oil Catch Can, Moroso Oil Pan, ORC Clutch, Custom Exhaust, Black Volk Racing CE28N's w/ Toyo R1R's, 2 piece rotors, Pagid Blue Pads, BSK Wet Carbon (Side Skirts, Front Lip Spoiler, Gas Cap Cover, Center Console, Door Panels), Dry Carbon rear Diffuser, Harness Bar, BWR Gauge Mount, OMP Superquadro steering wheel, LETSLA Short Shifter, V2arms, Rear Tow Link Brace, RLS Battery Bracket, BOE Tow Bar, Stickers.

06-21-2009, 01:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
Capo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sea Girt, NJ Posts: 52	Thanks for the replies guys. I should have said 'repair' generically rather than 'plug' to include patching. Will save me quite a bit vs new set, so appreciate your input...will report back. __________________ "No, Donny, these men are nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of." 2006 Elise- Chili Red 2006 Infiniti M35 Sport/ 1999 Miata A couple of Hinckley Bonnevilles/ '89 Honda GB 500

06-22-2009, 10:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
Chili Red Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 2,197	Ive plugged 2 different tires on my lotus and tracked them both extensively without issue. __________________ 2007 Exige S - Chili Red 2009 Mini Cooper S - Chili Red Gotham 265, Nitron Sport Pro, Moroso oil pan, RTVBrace, Volk CE28N/R888, Cup Wheels/A048, 2Bular Ultra 4", Rapfix II w/ Sparco P300, S111 CF Splitter, Ultradiscs, Pagid RS42, V-Force Harness Bar, Schroth PROFI II, Fire Extinguisher, Folding Tow Hook, Odyssey PC680, re-ENFORCER, LLumar 30% tint, Traqmate, DashDAQ, Chasecam, Alpine IVA-D100 w/ Backup Camera.

06-23-2009, 08:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
xtn McLareghini Bugatterrari Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 6,841	Same here Chilli. But it COULD lead to disaster. Probably won't, but if the right nail/screw went through just right and split one of the steel belts, it could mean big trouble at speed. Low probability, but high risk situation if it does happen. xtn __________________ 2006 McLareghini Bugatterrari, Storm Titanium... <mods> installed: air horn, Scroth 4-point ASM harnesses, Sector111 halon extinguisher and mounting bracket, Von Hep exhaust and rear panel delete, Pagid brake pads, red Volks CE28n wheels, Toyo RA-1 tires, Nitron SA coilovers, Sector111 (WorksBell) quick-disconnect steering wheel kit. awaiting installation: Scroth "pull-up" lap belts, Sector111 RTD Brace, Tony's heater bypass mod, and dropped steering rack mounting plates. </mods>

06-21-2009, 08:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
azmurciev12 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 114	a lot of people are against plugging but i had my lambo rear tires plugged once and i've ran it to 200 miles many times over without any problems. i've also plugged the a048 and ran them on the track past their wearbars with no problems at all. although it's better safe than sorry so if you can patch it up from the inside, so much the better.

06-21-2009, 08:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
ads_green Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 318	The internal patch with combined plugs are by far the best. Done properly these are stronger than the original rubber.

06-22-2009, 08:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
Chococar #334 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 1,536	Odds of a problem on the track with a repaired tire are low, but the consequences of a failure could be high. What's your life worth? I bought a new pair of tires when it happened to me. Good luck!

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