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Not a poseur anymore!
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Steering rack replaced BUT...
now I have a new sound. The clunks are gone and the steering (Titan QR) feels great and responsive. Problem is that now when I take hard turns, i hear something sliding across the car. Then it appears to make a loud clunk like the object is hitting the side of the car.
Needless to say, I'll be taking my car back to the dealer for them to check it out, however I won't have time to do that for a couple of weeks. In the meantime, curiosity is killing me. Anyone experience this before? Is the steering rack replaced by going from under the car via the front undertray?
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06 elise
Join Date: Jun 2004
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weird, i hope this doesn't happen when i get my new rack. i'll let you know my opinion of it too.
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If you take off one of the front wheels, you can see the "tunnel" in the extrusion that the steering rack is mounted in (see the red arrow below)... with a flashlight, you'll be able to see from one side to the other... maybe something was left in there?
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Not a poseur anymore!
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I called the dealer this morning. No reports of missing tools.
apk919, thanks. i'll have to take a look when i get some time.
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I had the same problem. Thought I had misplaced a tool. To make long story short, the problem was this rack has no gear oil, only greased joints. I re-greased the inner track rod joints and for good measure added some gear oil to the rack. Try massaging grease into the inner joints without removing the rubber boots. You maybe lucky otherwise it will have to be removed to re-grease the joints.
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Keep it simple and real
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Take a look at your shock oil resevoirs (located under the wheel well liner and at rear of the wheel well) to see if they have slipped out of their zip ties. Mine did on the driver's side and made a similar sound.
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the "sliding tool" sound sounds like the "object" is heavy/dense. Sounds more like locking pliers than a screwdriver.
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McLareghini Bugatterrari
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I vote it's a 3-lb sledge in the boot.
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Nope. I only have some towels, the lotus tool bag, my front license plate, and the AS SEEN ON TV California Car Duster. The battery is still securely in place.
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What is odd is that whatever is moving around seemed to jam my steering wheel twice for a split second. btw, would a loose shock oil reservoir affect steering? doesn't seem like it should. at this point i don't feel that it is safe to drive my car. i will save it for the drive to the dealer.
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06 elise
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i just got mine and mine also makes some weird clunking noises. i figured its normal. i did notice that its a tiny bit tighter steering but have you noticed that you dont have as good of a turning radius?
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I don't get clunking noises like I did with the old worn OEM rack. I don't think clunking should be considered normal.
I agree that the Titan QR makes the steering feel a little heavier but I expected and like that. Haven't really checked on the turning radius.
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06 elise
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my car makes so many new noises since i got the new engine mounts. i am not really sure where they are all coming from. my car rattles alot in the lower rpm, but get lets rattles at idle and higher rpm. your right the steering does feel heavier.
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Could it be a front tire rubbing?
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Not a poseur anymore!
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If you're asking me, I don't think so.
I recently went from 195's to 215's but I don't think the sounds I get match that. Plus most recently I've been getting metal on metal type rattling even at a standstill. I hope the dealer has an open slot tomorrow.
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If your people cannot inspect it for you, I will at no charge. Don. |
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Not a poseur anymore!
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I managed to get my car to the dealer this morning. I drove it there gently. Sure enough as I pulled into their driveway, I started hearing a lot of rattling and vibrating. Seemed to be coming from the right front wheel area. As I tried to pulled into the parking spot, the steering started jamming again. So I had to leave it parked diagonally for fear of causing more damage. It was a good thing that this didn't happen to me on a turn and it was good that the tech could then experience it for himself.
So the finding? Not sure! Couldn't find a mysterious object. The tech (and I) looked all around. The biggest finding was a loose front passenger side lower control arm bolt. Could this cause the steering to jam if the geometry is off enough? After that both the tech and I took turns taking test drives. No more problems. Very strange! Everything seems to be fine now. I'm keeping an eye on it. Still can't explain the "sliding object" sound. I really want to make sure the problem is solved. My goal when getting this car was to make it to the track. I've had to get a new tranny, a new steering rack, and new tires. I thought I was finally ready until this issue reared its ugly head. Scares me to think what would have happened if I didn't find out until on the track while in a turn. Thanks for the offer, Don. Where is your shop?
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