Difuser & under tray quick release kit, how they holding up? - LotusTalk

pixlpush · 02-26-2007, 07:31 AM

I did a search on the hanger 111 (available from sector111) quick release kit for the difuser and undertray and found a 2 year old thread from several of you who were about to install the kit. How are they holding up? Any rattle issues? Any broken clips?

I installed the kit yesterday and so far so good. It was a bit of a hassle to install especially removing the stock clips on the sides of the undertray. It seems like it's quite tight and will make pulling the tray and difuser much easier in the future.

Bman · 02-26-2007, 08:04 AM

I should get my kit with some other goodies on wed. I agree will make for easier maintenance for the future.

dwkoski · 02-26-2007, 12:40 PM

I've had one of these kits on my S1 since 2002. A hassle to get them adjusted properly and I have had 2 fall off and become lost (in four years.) They are clever and speed removal but are slower to replace than threaded fasteners and I have not installed a kit on the S2 as I have a drive on hoist and can get at the threaded fasteners with an air ratchet which is almost as fast in disassembly and much less fussy in assembly...Dave

Ridgemanron · 02-26-2007, 02:19 PM

I've ordered two complete kits since mid '05', since
small quantity replacements are not available. I lose
approximately '2 to 4' pieces every few months and
feel that I should have stayed with the oem ones.

Randy Chase · 02-26-2007, 02:59 PM

I tried it on my car and removed it. I know Chris Z liked his kit a lot, but I felt I could remove the diffuser almost as fast and with less hassle with the stock fasteners.

MikeW · 02-26-2007, 03:12 PM

Here's an alternate approach. I bought stainless socket head fasteners. I chucked up the socket heads in the drill press. I held a file against the threaded end while it was running. I put a 45 deg. taper on the ends. Now I can hold the socket end will an allen wrench and pilot them into the holes with ease. I've had the tray off several times now, good improvement for the buck. i didn't invent this, however, they're called pilot screws. Easier to make them than search all day.

carl · 02-26-2007, 04:30 PM

Mike, good idea you could also just get some extra bolts and grind a taper then run a die down to chase the threads..carl

Dro · 02-27-2007, 09:37 AM

I also had it and removed it. The fasteners break after awhile and end up being more trouble then they're worth. Also, I think I get less rattle/vibration noise with the standard fasteners.

Bman · 02-27-2007, 10:19 AM

Crap, I guess i'l' be sending it back.. Thanks everyone!!

Randy Chase · 02-27-2007, 10:25 AM

For those who stay with the stock fasteners, if you do this enough, you will keep a couple of tools at hand. One is an 8mm closed end wrench. With this, one can place it over the fastener and spin it quite quickly. This works great for most of the fasteners, including the ones along the front edge. You can get adept at holding it with one finger while spinning it.

Then add an 8mm nut driver to your kit. This works well for those fasteners that do not allow you to spin the wrench. Such as the ones on the very side of the diffuser, or the one between the exhaust tips.

Dropping the diffuser only takes about 5 minutes if I take my time.

TimMullen · 03-01-2007, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

For those who stay with the stock fasteners, if you do this enough, you will keep a couple of tools at hand.

I prefer my 1/4 inch drive air ratchet. Zzzzzzzziiiiiiiiiippppp!!!!!!!

lancer360 · 03-01-2007, 11:31 AM

JnC showed me this little tool. Makes it very quick to remove and install the bolts.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...000&lpage=none

It fits perfectly with the car backed up onto ramps and doesn't have enough torque to break the heads off. I have a different brand, but they are basically the same. The cheap "Task Force" house brand one is only $12.

Thanks JnC!

LSUFAN · 03-02-2007, 04:04 AM

Better yet, get a good drill, with 8mm 1/4" drive and a 1/4" driver bit. Instant on and off with no problems. I can even take the two main center bolts off/on with it in seconds.

MyElise · 03-02-2007, 06:09 AM

I have the kit and have managed to slowly break clips and washers and heads.
However, I really like the fasteners and would like to keep it.

If any of you who have removed the kit would like to sell whatever you have left please sent me a PM. Thanks.

lancer360 · 03-02-2007, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSUFAN

Better yet, get a good drill, with 8mm 1/4" drive and a 1/4" driver bit. Instant on and off with no problems. I can even take the two main center bolts off/on with it in seconds.

I tried that with by cordless drill, but my ramps don't give me enough room under the car to make it work.

02-26-2007, 07:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
pixlpush Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,012 Images: 124	Difuser & under tray quick release kit, how they holding up? I did a search on the hanger 111 (available from sector111) quick release kit for the difuser and undertray and found a 2 year old thread from several of you who were about to install the kit. How are they holding up? Any rattle issues? Any broken clips? I installed the kit yesterday and so far so good. It was a bit of a hassle to install especially removing the stock clips on the sides of the undertray. It seems like it's quite tight and will make pulling the tray and difuser much easier in the future. __________________ 2005 Elise, CO, LSS, Hard Top 2006 Mini Cooper S - peper white 1986 BMW E30 325E - 24 Hours of LeMons race turd The B-Team, 24 Hours of LeMons Race Team

02-26-2007, 08:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Bman Registered abuser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Miami Posts: 196	I should get my kit with some other goodies on wed. I agree will make for easier maintenance for the future. __________________ 07 Z06 06 CO Exige - ForcedFed 275 05 Ford GT 05 Shelby Cobra (Roush 342RE) SPF#2115 04 Full Race Z06 01 Z06

02-26-2007, 12:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
dwkoski Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 479	Quick change fastener kit I've had one of these kits on my S1 since 2002. A hassle to get them adjusted properly and I have had 2 fall off and become lost (in four years.) They are clever and speed removal but are slower to replace than threaded fasteners and I have not installed a kit on the S2 as I have a drive on hoist and can get at the threaded fasteners with an air ratchet which is almost as fast in disassembly and much less fussy in assembly...Dave

02-26-2007, 02:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 28,282 Images: 761	I tried it on my car and removed it. I know Chris Z liked his kit a lot, but I felt I could remove the diffuser almost as fast and with less hassle with the stock fasteners. __________________ Please do not PM me. My box is full. Thanks.

02-27-2007, 10:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bman Registered abuser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Miami Posts: 196	Crap, I guess i'l' be sending it back.. Thanks everyone!! __________________ 07 Z06 06 CO Exige - ForcedFed 275 05 Ford GT 05 Shelby Cobra (Roush 342RE) SPF#2115 04 Full Race Z06 01 Z06

02-26-2007, 02:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ridgemanron Ridge Man Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,269	I've ordered two complete kits since mid '05', since small quantity replacements are not available. I lose approximately '2 to 4' pieces every few months and feel that I should have stayed with the oem ones.

02-26-2007, 03:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
MikeW Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,373	Here's an alternate approach. I bought stainless socket head fasteners. I chucked up the socket heads in the drill press. I held a file against the threaded end while it was running. I put a 45 deg. taper on the ends. Now I can hold the socket end will an allen wrench and pilot them into the holes with ease. I've had the tray off several times now, good improvement for the buck. i didn't invent this, however, they're called pilot screws. Easier to make them than search all day.

02-26-2007, 04:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
carl Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,083	Mike, good idea you could also just get some extra bolts and grind a taper then run a die down to chase the threads..carl

02-27-2007, 09:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
Dro The Original Dro Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 838	I also had it and removed it. The fasteners break after awhile and end up being more trouble then they're worth. Also, I think I get less rattle/vibration noise with the standard fasteners.

02-27-2007, 10:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 28,282 Images: 761	For those who stay with the stock fasteners, if you do this enough, you will keep a couple of tools at hand. One is an 8mm closed end wrench. With this, one can place it over the fastener and spin it quite quickly. This works great for most of the fasteners, including the ones along the front edge. You can get adept at holding it with one finger while spinning it. Then add an 8mm nut driver to your kit. This works well for those fasteners that do not allow you to spin the wrench. Such as the ones on the very side of the diffuser, or the one between the exhaust tips. Dropping the diffuser only takes about 5 minutes if I take my time. __________________ Please do not PM me. My box is full. Thanks.

03-01-2007, 11:31 AM	#12 (permalink)
lancer360 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,234	JnC showed me this little tool. Makes it very quick to remove and install the bolts. http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...000&lpage=none It fits perfectly with the car backed up onto ramps and doesn't have enough torque to break the heads off. I have a different brand, but they are basically the same. The cheap "Task Force" house brand one is only $12. Thanks JnC! __________________ '05 Lotus Elise Saffron Yellow, Touring, Sport, Stainless Brake Lines, Moroso Oil Pan, RTD Brace NovaKBS Forumla 600 Powered by Suzuki GSXR

03-02-2007, 04:04 AM	#13 (permalink)
LSUFAN Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 533	Better yet, get a good drill, with 8mm 1/4" drive and a 1/4" driver bit. Instant on and off with no problems. I can even take the two main center bolts off/on with it in seconds.

03-02-2007, 06:09 AM	#14 (permalink)
MyElise Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,933 Images: 28	I have the kit and have managed to slowly break clips and washers and heads. However, I really like the fasteners and would like to keep it. If any of you who have removed the kit would like to sell whatever you have left please sent me a PM. Thanks. __________________ Checker or Wrecker!!! We're all here because we're not all there.

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