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rugger1345 · 11-12-2008, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesterbot

Really, how secure is double sided tape around the heat/vibration of the engine bay?

If you use whatever the hell Lotus did on the slats, you're fine... trust me on this one.

Kiowapilot · 11-12-2008, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil S

Have you considered the surface mounted grills for those of us that are reluctant to drill holes. They will cover most of the paint scuffs that are hidden under the stock slats and likely more secure having to use tape.

I thought about that but the initial plan was to do it without tape. There were lots of recomendations for no tape and no modifications to the body of the car. Now that I have learned the later model cars dont have the holes I may go back to the drawing board. Currently I have so much on my plate right now trying to figure out the rest of the car that I dont have the time or money to re-design the engine grills. Maybe in time but for now the original design will be kept. I would love to build them one off for each customer but the cost will go up. If you want a one off set then let me know and I will see what I can do. The price will go up but it will still be cheaper than anywhere else you can find it.

Right now I am fighting with the side vents. They are a real pain in the butt. It is easy to make them for just my car but getting a design that can be produced with no tape and no body mods is proving to be quite a challenge when working with my tooling and my budget. I will figure it out eventually.

I must say thanks to my wife who is dealing with me spending LONG nights in the garage and my constant babble about design concepts. She is a trooper. Ok, time for bed.

jpryor27 · 11-13-2008, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil S

Have you considered the surface mounted grills for those of us that are reluctant to drill holes. They will cover most of the paint scuffs that are hidden under the stock slats and likely more secure having to use tape.

+1. I would prefer this option as well.

BTW, keep up the good work. I have been watching this thread very closely and I will be giving you some business when you get a full kit together. (11 pieces)

JP

jesterbot · 11-13-2008, 11:35 AM

Kiowa, you have a PM

Phil S · 11-13-2008, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiowapilot

I thought about that but the initial plan was to do it without tape. There were lots of recomendations for no tape and no modifications to the body of the car. Now that I have learned the later model cars dont have the holes I may go back to the drawing board. Currently I have so much on my plate right now trying to figure out the rest of the car that I dont have the time or money to re-design the engine grills. Maybe in time but for now the original design will be kept. I would love to build them one off for each customer but the cost will go up. If you want a one off set then let me know and I will see what I can do. The price will go up but it will still be cheaper than anywhere else you can find it.

Right now I am fighting with the side vents. They are a real pain in the butt. It is easy to make them for just my car but getting a design that can be produced with no tape and no body mods is proving to be quite a challenge when working with my tooling and my budget. I will figure it out eventually.

I must say thanks to my wife who is dealing with me spending LONG nights in the garage and my constant babble about design concepts. She is a trooper. Ok, time for bed.

I'm guilty of asking for a "tapeless" installation but I would much rather have tape than to drill holes.

biscoradio · 11-13-2008, 04:55 PM

I have an '05, so I have the holes, but I think having the engine grill top mounted may look cleaner - even if they use a bit 'o tape. I'm following this thread closely too, may jump on the special deal going on.

Kiowapilot · 11-13-2008, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biscoradio

I have an '05, so I have the holes, but I think having the engine grill top mounted may look cleaner - even if they use a bit 'o tape. I'm following this thread closely too, may jump on the special deal going on.

I like the look of the rivets myself. They really fit the "look" of the car. Plus they are a lot cheaper.

OH!! And lighter!

Kiowapilot · 11-13-2008, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rugger1345

If you use whatever the hell Lotus did on the slats, you're fine... trust me on this one.

I KNOW!!! THE TAPE IS PAINFULL!!!!

I have not had a request for tape yet but I am going to get some to send it out for the 06+ guys that choose to go with my grills. If they request it as the mounting option of course.

E.D. · 11-13-2008, 05:15 PM

I'm plan to go with the tape. That mesh weighs almost nothing so I expect it to be OK.
I guess when it turns out that it doesn't stick enough I can still move on to rivets (+ hole drilling for my '06) after that.

rugger1345 · 11-16-2008, 09:11 PM

Are there any updates on grills for the front?

Kiowapilot · 11-16-2008, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rugger1345

Are there any updates on grills for the front?

Not yet. I burned up all my extra material trying to find a solution for the side vents. I should be able to have my welder up and running soon so I will be able to make progress on the front grills.

P.S. 3 more days for the discounted price!! Offer ends on the 20th.

Kiowapilot · 11-19-2008, 06:18 PM

Alright everybody. Here is the newest update. I am planning on going with the exige style side scoops in the end so for now I am holding off on developing the side vents. However, If there is a demand and enough people want the side vents in mesh then I will finish them. I figure it will take about 10 people who want them for me to be able to develop and produce them without losing money. Please post so I know what the demand is for the side vents.

My welder should be up and running in the next few days so I will begin to make progress on the front center grill next week. I plan to have a full car (minus side vents) available within the next 2 weeks. As of right now I can think of about 10 people that want the full car kit. If you are interested in the full car kit (minus side vents) please post also so I can guage the workload I am going to be undertaking.

Phil S · 11-19-2008, 07:21 PM

I'm in for full car kit with surface mount engine grills.

Would like to see the front with and without the opening for the tow hook before choosing.

Black powder coated.

Side vents pending.

Thanks ...........Phil

Kiowapilot · 11-19-2008, 09:59 PM

20 november is the last day for the discounted price!! Get your orders in if you want to save some money. I am hunting for 2 more orders. They will push me over the edge and I will be able to get the whole thing done faster. Just so you know, it is a $45 dollar savings over the regular price.

jpryor27 · 11-20-2008, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil S

I'm in for full car kit with surface mount engine grills.

Would like to see the front with and without the opening for the tow hook before choosing.

Black powder coated.

Side vents pending.

My thoughts exactly...

I also am curious about the oil cooler vent solution....I'd rather not have to remove the clam if at all possible.

If you can make the $500 price point...I'm in.

Kiowapilot · 11-20-2008, 07:21 AM

Personally I think the surface mounted grills for the engine are way to big and bulky looking. I prefer the more OEM look from the under lid grills. I actually had another guy with an 05 coment on how his did not come with mesh grills and he was wondering why mine did.

I will make the surface grills for those that want them but it will not be until I get spare time and the rest of the car is done. Probably in a few weeks or so.

As for the oil cooler vents. I am toying around with a few options. I think I am going to use body clips to attach them. That will make it easily to remove and install with no tape and no drilling. The oil coolers sit back away from the clam just a little so I think I should be able to get my fingers back in there to clip them into place.

For the center grill. If it is wanted without a tow hook hole then just be advised that the tow hook mount does stick out a little. That means that the grills without a tow hook hole are not going to be recessed as much into the opening and are going to look a bit more flush with the body.

Hachisu · 11-20-2008, 01:50 PM

PM'd about purchasing radiator & engine cover mesh.

biscoradio · 11-20-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hachisu

PM'd about purchasing radiator & engine cover mesh.

+1

jesterbot · 11-20-2008, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hachisu

PM'd about purchasing radiator & engine cover mesh.

+2 (money sent)

Kiowapilot · 11-21-2008, 08:09 AM

You guys rock! This will be enough to get everything finished. I should have something pretty soon. Thanks for the orders.

11-13-2008, 11:35 AM	#104 (permalink)
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11-13-2008, 05:15 PM	#109 (permalink)
E.D. Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 715	I'm plan to go with the tape. That mesh weighs almost nothing so I expect it to be OK. I guess when it turns out that it doesn't stick enough I can still move on to rivets (+ hole drilling for my '06) after that. __________________ Enrico '06 Laser Blue/Magnolia Lotus Elise * BOE TVS SC * EFI * Lots of other things '07 Graphite Grey/Tan BMW 335i w/JB3 tune, Helix IC and BMS DCI

11-16-2008, 09:11 PM	#110 (permalink)
rugger1345 Simplify and Add Lightnes Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 131	Are there any updates on grills for the front? __________________ If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. -Louis D. Brandeis DID YOU HEAR THAT, COP IN BIG LAKE, TEXAS?

11-19-2008, 06:18 PM	#112 (permalink)
Kiowapilot Mesh grill guy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ft. Lewis, Washington. Posts: 140	Alright everybody. Here is the newest update. I am planning on going with the exige style side scoops in the end so for now I am holding off on developing the side vents. However, If there is a demand and enough people want the side vents in mesh then I will finish them. I figure it will take about 10 people who want them for me to be able to develop and produce them without losing money. Please post so I know what the demand is for the side vents. My welder should be up and running in the next few days so I will begin to make progress on the front center grill next week. I plan to have a full car (minus side vents) available within the next 2 weeks. As of right now I can think of about 10 people that want the full car kit. If you are interested in the full car kit (minus side vents) please post also so I can guage the workload I am going to be undertaking. __________________ 2005 Elise "magnetic Blue" Bone stock..... Not for long. "Fun in the sun..... Lotus Elise." "fun in the sand.....OH-58D Kiowa Warrior." If the line for most people is right here, I will be hanging out over there--->

11-19-2008, 09:59 PM	#114 (permalink)
Kiowapilot Mesh grill guy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ft. Lewis, Washington. Posts: 140	20 november is the last day for the discounted price!! Get your orders in if you want to save some money. I am hunting for 2 more orders. They will push me over the edge and I will be able to get the whole thing done faster. Just so you know, it is a $45 dollar savings over the regular price. __________________ 2005 Elise "magnetic Blue" Bone stock..... Not for long. "Fun in the sun..... Lotus Elise." "fun in the sand.....OH-58D Kiowa Warrior." If the line for most people is right here, I will be hanging out over there--->

11-13-2008, 04:55 PM	#106 (permalink)
biscoradio GG #668 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 302 Images: 2	I have an '05, so I have the holes, but I think having the engine grill top mounted may look cleaner - even if they use a bit 'o tape. I'm following this thread closely too, may jump on the special deal going on.

11-19-2008, 07:21 PM	#113 (permalink)
Phil S 2007 Phantom Black Elise Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 211	I'm in for full car kit with surface mount engine grills. Would like to see the front with and without the opening for the tow hook before choosing. Black powder coated. Side vents pending. Thanks ...........Phil

11-20-2008, 07:21 AM	#116 (permalink)
Kiowapilot Mesh grill guy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ft. Lewis, Washington. Posts: 140	Personally I think the surface mounted grills for the engine are way to big and bulky looking. I prefer the more OEM look from the under lid grills. I actually had another guy with an 05 coment on how his did not come with mesh grills and he was wondering why mine did. I will make the surface grills for those that want them but it will not be until I get spare time and the rest of the car is done. Probably in a few weeks or so. As for the oil cooler vents. I am toying around with a few options. I think I am going to use body clips to attach them. That will make it easily to remove and install with no tape and no drilling. The oil coolers sit back away from the clam just a little so I think I should be able to get my fingers back in there to clip them into place. For the center grill. If it is wanted without a tow hook hole then just be advised that the tow hook mount does stick out a little. That means that the grills without a tow hook hole are not going to be recessed as much into the opening and are going to look a bit more flush with the body. __________________ 2005 Elise "magnetic Blue" Bone stock..... Not for long. "Fun in the sun..... Lotus Elise." "fun in the sand.....OH-58D Kiowa Warrior." If the line for most people is right here, I will be hanging out over there--->

11-20-2008, 01:50 PM	#117 (permalink)
Hachisu Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 101	PM'd about purchasing radiator & engine cover mesh.

11-21-2008, 08:09 AM	#120 (permalink)
Kiowapilot Mesh grill guy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ft. Lewis, Washington. Posts: 140	You guys rock! This will be enough to get everything finished. I should have something pretty soon. Thanks for the orders. __________________ 2005 Elise "magnetic Blue" Bone stock..... Not for long. "Fun in the sun..... Lotus Elise." "fun in the sand.....OH-58D Kiowa Warrior." If the line for most people is right here, I will be hanging out over there--->

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