Multivex Mirror review - Page 15 - LotusTalk

Artisan · 08-05-2007, 07:49 PM

When you use different tape you can shape it around the edges of the mirror so the points of contact are greater. I am just concerened that the 3M heavy duty is still not strong enough for extended use. This makes the argument for caulk if you are not going to use different adhesive. At least you know there is an option... I would say you should put some caulk behind the mirror still so you can be sure there won't be a problem.

stinkyonion · 06-18-2009, 08:25 PM

Old thread, I know, but ordered multivex from safetymirrorsonline.com on 5/29, sent money via paypal. No response. Emailed Kenney as per website, email address now dead. Havent received anything.

christsay · 06-18-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stinkyonion

Old thread, I know, but ordered multivex from safetymirrorsonline.com on 5/29, sent money via paypal. No response. Emailed Kenney as per website, email address now dead. Havent received anything.

I went through the same thing a few months back. Gave them a month and after that filed a dispute through paypal. Kenny promptly refunded my money and told me to order through multivexmirrors.com

Placed an order through multivexmirrors.com on 6/9 and got an email saying they are backordered, 6-8 week estimated ship date.

-chris

HKFEVER · 06-19-2009, 03:18 AM

Drive faster than you don't need any mirror.

christsay · 07-14-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by christsay

I went through the same thing a few months back. Gave them a month and after that filed a dispute through paypal. Kenny promptly refunded my money and told me to order through multivexmirrors.com

Placed an order through multivexmirrors.com on 6/9 and got an email saying they are backordered, 6-8 week estimated ship date.

-chris

Mirrors arrived yesterday 7/13 so I guess they are back in stock.

-chris

Safetypup · 07-14-2009, 09:24 AM

My old S2000 had similar mirrors to this installed, and I removed them because I couldn't get used to going back and forth between that car and my other vehicles which all had regular mirrors.

As for the blind spot, I just speed up if I want to change lanes

I will say that the blind spots in the Exige are huge though so I might try out a set of these puppies.

jesterbot · 07-14-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Safetypup

As for the blind spot, I just speed up if I want to change lanes

I will say that the blind spots in the Exige are huge though so I might try out a set of these puppies.

I used to do the same thing... almost was the cause of several side swipes thanks to that.... the blind spots are just HUGE on this car. The multivex is definitely a weird transition because I drive my truck 99% of the time, but mostly only when backing out of the garage (where you appear to be entering a black hole or time warp according to the mirrors). On the road, they are an absolute life saver. Changing lanes in traffic is no longer a "hold your breath and gun it" maneuver.

xtn · 07-14-2009, 09:49 AM

My daily driver truck has regular mirrors occupying the upper three fourths of the mirror housings, and has convex mirrors in the lower fourth.

Having gotten used to the Multivex on my Exige, I find myself using only the convex mirrors that the truck has. The regular, undistorted view from the main mirrors just looks too weird!

xtn

Randy Chase · 07-14-2009, 09:51 AM

Regardless of the mirrors, driving the Elise and then some other car requires a major transition. To me, the mirrors were a minor thing and the advantages worth it.

jesterbot · 07-14-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by xtn

My daily driver truck has regular mirrors occupying the upper three fourths of the mirror housings, and has convex mirrors in the lower fourth.

Having gotten used to the Multivex on my Exige, I find myself using only the convex mirrors that the truck has. The regular, undistorted view from the main mirrors just looks too weird!

xtn

Maybe it's just me but my standard F-150 mirrors are great. I feel like I can see the whole world!

mrcarcrazy · 07-14-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jesterbot

Maybe it's just me but my standard F-150 mirrors are great. I feel like I can see the whole world!

Wonder if I could make em fit on my Ranger?

those mirrors inhale profusely.

kpbuck · 07-26-2009, 09:27 AM

whew - just finished reading this entire 4 year thread. lots of information but I still have a question - my Exige now serves as my dedicated track. Thursday night I was running in the dark under track lights - two of us were running Exiges and admittedly we were engaged and not focused on what was behind us. Another driver in a full race Porsche marked us and was working to overtake us in the straightaway, he missjudged our speed but committed to overtake us on the inside in the third turn after the straightaway. The first thing I saw was a flash of orange headlight on my left as he overtook me on the inside - less 2 feet from my driver's door when we turned parallel. I stayed online and we avoided contact. I am not sure I would have seen him with better mirrors and maybe I am alive because I didnt see him but its was a big wake up for me.
Do the Multivex mirrors create distortion in depth of field? Has anyone had much experience on the track? at night?
I am debating whether it would be safer with a wider field of vision & the distortion that comes with that or sticking with the stock optics in the Lotus OEM mirrors...

kestrel74 · 07-26-2009, 09:32 AM

You get used to the mirrors after about a week of living with them. After a while you can't really live without them !.... I don't notice any distortion at all, but I have the first set also.

RoadDad · 07-26-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kpbuck

Do the Multivex mirrors create distortion in depth of field?

Any convexity/concavity in a mirror will change the depth of field perception. So, yes.

biscoradio · 07-26-2009, 11:36 AM

I've had multivex mirrors since I got my '05 elise last october and they were installed years ago. I test drove an elise without them. The multivex makes a huge difference. I'd think they do create distortion in depth of field, but I pretty much know exactly how far back cars are in my mirrors - the distortion is probably at a consistent rate and you get used to it without thinking about it. I haven't tracked in the dark but I have during the day and I have an elise so I can see out the back, but I would think that having a wider field of vision behind you with a slight distortion in depth would be better than having a narrower field of view. You most likely would have seen the porsche's headlights earlier with multivex mirrors - the less surprises on a track the better.

kpbuck · 07-26-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kestrel74

You get used to the mirrors after about a week of living with them. After a while you can't really live without them !.... I don't notice any distortion at all, but I have the first set also.

have you tracked your car with them? less margin for error in depth perception outh there... thanks!

kpbuck · 07-26-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by biscoradio

I've had multivex mirrors since I got my '05 elise last october and they were installed years ago. I test drove an elise without them. The multivex makes a huge difference. I'd think they do create distortion in depth of field, but I pretty much know exactly how far back cars are in my mirrors - the distortion is probably at a consistent rate and you get used to it without thinking about it. I haven't tracked in the dark but I have during the day and I have an elise so I can see out the back, but I would think that having a wider field of vision behind you with a slight distortion in depth would be better than having a narrower field of view. You most likely would have seen the porsche's headlights earlier with multivex mirrors - the less surprises on a track the better.

AHHHHH a learning curve... pardon the pun - I agree & I would have preferred to see my demise in advance.

kestrel74 · 07-26-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kpbuck

have you tracked your car with them? less margin for error in depth perception outh there... thanks!

Absolutely..... about 20 track days on her right now... no problem. BUY them.... you can always sell them for what you bought them for.

Keeper · 07-27-2009, 12:29 AM

@kpbuck

Good enough for Indy cars.

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TimMullen · 07-27-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kestrel74

You get used to the mirrors after about a week of living with them. After a while you can't really live without them !....

I keep reading this, but I was comfortable with mine in the first few minutes of driving. No, I couldn't necessarily judge distances in the mirror, but I could see if there was something there that I needed to be concerned with.

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Originally Posted by RoadDad

Any convexity/concavity in a mirror will change the depth of field perception. So, yes.

Correct, but not any more so than a standard convex mirror on the right side of all cars. But you have the same mirror on the left now too...

08-05-2007, 07:49 PM	#281 (permalink)
Artisan Registered Elise Driver Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 10	When you use different tape you can shape it around the edges of the mirror so the points of contact are greater. I am just concerened that the 3M heavy duty is still not strong enough for extended use. This makes the argument for caulk if you are not going to use different adhesive. At least you know there is an option... I would say you should put some caulk behind the mirror still so you can be sure there won't be a problem. __________________ My work - www.obsusa.com - Video Security System for Vehicles My Play - 06 Elise - Ardent / Biscuit

06-18-2009, 08:25 PM	#282 (permalink)
stinkyonion Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oak Brook, IL Posts: 230 Images: 2	Old thread, I know, but ordered multivex from safetymirrorsonline.com on 5/29, sent money via paypal. No response. Emailed Kenney as per website, email address now dead. Havent received anything. __________________ 2006 polar blue Elise, VF stage II, clam hinge, von Hep exhaust, HID, Zeitronix/Dashdaq (GPS, wideband O2, EGT, fuel+oil pressure), BWR fuel rail, moroso oil pan, HD SS clutch, RTV brace, green wire mod, harnesses, Oddysey 625, alpine pdx-5, jvc avx77 head unit, jl speakers, voltmeter on dash, custom gauge pod, etc.

06-19-2009, 03:18 AM	#284 (permalink)
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07-14-2009, 09:49 AM	#288 (permalink)
xtn McLareghini Bugatterrari Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 6,841	My daily driver truck has regular mirrors occupying the upper three fourths of the mirror housings, and has convex mirrors in the lower fourth. Having gotten used to the Multivex on my Exige, I find myself using only the convex mirrors that the truck has. The regular, undistorted view from the main mirrors just looks too weird! xtn __________________ 2006 McLareghini Bugatterrari, Storm Titanium... <mods> installed: air horn, Scroth 4-point ASM harnesses, Sector111 halon extinguisher and mounting bracket, Von Hep exhaust and rear panel delete, Pagid brake pads, red Volks CE28n wheels, Toyo RA-1 tires, Nitron SA coilovers, Sector111 (WorksBell) quick-disconnect steering wheel kit. awaiting installation: Scroth "pull-up" lap belts, Sector111 RTD Brace, Tony's heater bypass mod, and dropped steering rack mounting plates. </mods>

07-14-2009, 09:51 AM	#289 (permalink)
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07-14-2009, 09:24 AM	#286 (permalink)
Safetypup Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 72	My old S2000 had similar mirrors to this installed, and I removed them because I couldn't get used to going back and forth between that car and my other vehicles which all had regular mirrors. As for the blind spot, I just speed up if I want to change lanes I will say that the blind spots in the Exige are huge though so I might try out a set of these puppies.

07-26-2009, 09:27 AM	#292 (permalink)
kpbuck Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 62	whew - just finished reading this entire 4 year thread. lots of information but I still have a question - my Exige now serves as my dedicated track. Thursday night I was running in the dark under track lights - two of us were running Exiges and admittedly we were engaged and not focused on what was behind us. Another driver in a full race Porsche marked us and was working to overtake us in the straightaway, he missjudged our speed but committed to overtake us on the inside in the third turn after the straightaway. The first thing I saw was a flash of orange headlight on my left as he overtook me on the inside - less 2 feet from my driver's door when we turned parallel. I stayed online and we avoided contact. I am not sure I would have seen him with better mirrors and maybe I am alive because I didnt see him but its was a big wake up for me. Do the Multivex mirrors create distortion in depth of field? Has anyone had much experience on the track? at night? I am debating whether it would be safer with a wider field of vision & the distortion that comes with that or sticking with the stock optics in the Lotus OEM mirrors... __________________ 08' Exige 240 s track pack LSD - the track car 05' 997 s Werks1 boxes, tubi exhaust, GIAC tweaked with everything Champion Motorsports could find laying around to bolt on w/ GT3 rs clutch & lightweight flywheel - formerly known as the track car -now the daily driver 05' Range Rover - the beast of burden www.parkplacecarsecure.com

07-26-2009, 09:32 AM	#293 (permalink)
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07-26-2009, 11:36 AM	#295 (permalink)
biscoradio GG #668 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 299 Images: 2	I've had multivex mirrors since I got my '05 elise last october and they were installed years ago. I test drove an elise without them. The multivex makes a huge difference. I'd think they do create distortion in depth of field, but I pretty much know exactly how far back cars are in my mirrors - the distortion is probably at a consistent rate and you get used to it without thinking about it. I haven't tracked in the dark but I have during the day and I have an elise so I can see out the back, but I would think that having a wider field of vision behind you with a slight distortion in depth would be better than having a narrower field of view. You most likely would have seen the porsche's headlights earlier with multivex mirrors - the less surprises on a track the better. __________________ GG#668, 2ubular 7", manly inserts, LETSLA, LSS wheels, braille

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