Still no aero aides?

[MickOpalak]

I find it odd that no one is yet offering a front splitter or rear wing for the Elise in America.

[MotorCade]

Checked shinoo's site lately?

[MickOpalak]

Originally Posted by MotorCade

Checked shinoo's site lately?

All I saw was the $900 front splitter. I'm looking for something a little less expensive. Anyone make one in plastic?

[TECK]

It's inevitable but I won't be standing in that line.

First, Lotus spent a lot of time and money designing the car so it would not lift at speed and it would NOT need a rear spoiler. A big part of the solution is the underpan and the rear diffuser. Real areodynamics are baked into the Elise no need to "bolt" on "Pontiac" parts.

Second, adding areo pieces at only one end of a car can upset the balance of downforce at speed.

Third, reports of scrapping the bottom lip of the car are already common, a splitter would aggrivate this problem.

Fourth, for some cars that are based on more pedestrian platforms, like my E36 M3, it can be argued the add ons create a more sporty look. But the Elise, to me, already screams sports car.

Fifth, yes the Exige has both but it IS a race car. For those using their car primarily/exclusively on the track I buy wings/splitters.

Sixth, look critically at a car's design. With the exception of cars designed from the beginning with splitters and wings (e.g. NSX, F40/F50) do they look better or worse. From Alfa Spiders to Audi TTs, to Mazda RX 7s, to Porsches I'll take my unadulterated. Thx.

[MotorCade]

Didn't say it was cheap. I wouldn't have a problem with it if it was in my price range and if I wasn't already tearing up the chin of my car.

I'd expect that if Mick was putting on the splitter, he'd balance it with a wing, and take it on track. I don't think he's part of the bling brigade.

Cade

[hpman]

Originally Posted by TECK

It's inevitable but I won't be standing in that line.

First, Lotus spent a lot of time and money designing the car so it would not lift at speed and it would NOT need a rear spoiler. A big part of the solution is the underpan and the rear diffuser. Real areodynamics are baked into the Elise no need to "bolt" on "Pontiac" parts.

Second, adding areo pieces at only one end of a car can upset the balance of downforce at speed.

Third, reports of scrapping the bottom lip of the car are already common, a splitter would aggrivate this problem.

Fourth, for some cars that are based on more pedestrian platforms, like my E36 M3, it can be argued the add ons create a more sporty look. But the Elise, to me, already screams sports car.

Fifth, yes the Exige has both but it IS a race car. For those using their car primarily/exclusively on the track I buy wings/splitters.

Sixth, look critically at a car's design. With the exception of cars designed from the beginning with splitters and wings (e.g. NSX, F40/F50) do they look better or worse. From Alfa Spiders to Audi TTs, to Mazda RX 7s, to Porsches I'll take my unadulterated. Thx.

EXACTLY!!!

[TimMullen]

Originally Posted by TECK

It's inevitable but I won't be standing in that line.

What he said...

[biobaggie]

I saw CO Elise in my area with a nice black rear wing. It may have been CF, but it was night time and I was at a stoplight so couldn't see it clearly. Someone is obviously making them.

[JediMindGamez]

teck took the words outta my mouth...

stickin an big aluminum spoiler on any car is just 2fast2furious for me... plus most of the time body kits and spoilers do nothing but mess up the aerodynamics of the car.... from my experience with imports the only company that actually tests body kits and spoilers in a wind tunnel was mugen....however i may be wrong...

[Dro]

Originally Posted by TECK

It's inevitable but I won't be standing in that line.

First, Lotus spent a lot of time and money designing the car so it would not lift at speed and it would NOT need a rear spoiler. A big part of the solution is the underpan and the rear diffuser. Real areodynamics are baked into the Elise no need to "bolt" on "Pontiac" parts.

Second, adding areo pieces at only one end of a car can upset the balance of downforce at speed.

Third, reports of scrapping the bottom lip of the car are already common, a splitter would aggrivate this problem.

Fourth, for some cars that are based on more pedestrian platforms, like my E36 M3, it can be argued the add ons create a more sporty look. But the Elise, to me, already screams sports car.

Fifth, yes the Exige has both but it IS a race car. For those using their car primarily/exclusively on the track I buy wings/splitters.

Sixth, look critically at a car's design. With the exception of cars designed from the beginning with splitters and wings (e.g. NSX, F40/F50) do they look better or worse. From Alfa Spiders to Audi TTs, to Mazda RX 7s, to Porsches I'll take my unadulterated. Thx.

Those are all valid points and I agree with you for the most part, but I am planning on racing mine and on making it go very fast, so I have been thinking about the aerodynamics a bit. Even ForcedFed said that if you plan on swapping out the 6th gear and going faster than 160 you should have a splitter and wing on the car. But I would want to see wind tunnel evidence and downforce specs before adding any new aero aids.

[tonykomo]

Originally Posted by Dro

Those are all valid points and I agree with you for the most part, but I am planning on racing mine and on making it go very fast, so I have been thinking about the aerodynamics a bit. Even ForcedFed said that if you plan on swapping out the 6th gear and going faster than 160 you should have a splitter and wing on the car. But I would want to see wind tunnel evidence and downforce specs before adding any new aero aids.

You won't need a wing with a front splitter. What you need is a racing diffuser. The Elise does not need a wing. The reason Lotus built the Exige with a wing is because it's cheaper and more road compliant than building a f'off diffuser. I have a splitter and a larger diffuser. I have plenty of downforce.

Saying that though, the wing will add much more downforce but all this will do is slow you down on the straights because of the extra drag.

[Dro]

Originally Posted by tonyyoshi

You won't need a wing with a front splitter. What you need is a racing diffuser. The Elise does not need a wing. The reason Lotus built the Exige with a wing is because it's cheaper and more road compliant than building a f'off diffuser. I have a splitter and a larger diffuser. I have plenty of downforce.

Saying that though, the wing will add much more downforce but all this will do is slow you down on the straights because of the extra drag.

Thanks Tony, that's interesting. Do you have pics of your car you can share, or post a link to pics?

[tonykomo]

Originally Posted by Dro

Thanks Tony, that's interesting. Do you have pics of your car you can share, or post a link to pics?

Hi Mate, yes, there are a load of pics of it here: http://homepage.mac.com/anthonybrook...toAlbum15.html

Some with splitter some without.

Cheers, Tony

[Smiley Chenit]

I've added both the spoiler and splitter to mine and the handling is now noticeably even better (and it was fantastic before!). Sure I know that I will have dropped my top end due to the extra drag but it's the corners that the elise has always been about for me

[lotusforsale]

Originally Posted by Smiley Chenit

I've added both the spoiler and splitter to mine and the handling is now noticeably even better (and it was fantastic before!). Sure I know that I will have dropped my top end due to the extra drag but it's the corners that the elise has always been about for me

thread resurrection hall of fame contender!!!

That downforce will help you on that ice and snow!

[Smiley Chenit]

Originally Posted by lotusforsale

thread resurrection hall of fame contender!!!

That downforce will help you on that ice and snow!

ah... yeah! Just spotted the other thread going on for pages about the PB Racing... and then the date! sorry

The snow and ice were a bit of a freak thing over here but at least the splitter was almost acting as a snow plough

[eliiz]

Don´t know about US markets, but you can order from UK and still save some money. ATF powering for front splitters and eliseparts for rear diffusers for example. You can find ATF powering from ebay UK too...

[plastique999]

Is that a CF roof with rear portion?...if so, wet or dry?

[Exigin]

Darksideengineering.com

We offer one

[madden]

someone needs to make a good spoiler for a reasonable price