Temper Foam in Seats It Works - LotusTalk

celling · 03-18-2005, 01:08 PM

The ride in my Elise was nothing short of bone jarring. Sport suspension. I added some temperature foam from the aircraft industry, to the bottom of the seats. The difference is nothing short of remarkable. If you feel like the fillings are going to fall out of your teeth, try this before you require the dental work.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...temperfoam.php

Racer X · 03-18-2005, 01:13 PM

Which one did you get 1", 2", or 3"? Did you jst lay it in the seat, or remove the leather and replace the current padding?

Greg

ekological · 03-18-2005, 01:32 PM

I like the typo: "12" x 16" x 18" Seat Cushion" That's one thick seat!!! You'd be looking over the windshield if the top was off!

celling · 03-18-2005, 02:33 PM

Greetings, sorry that I didn't give more information. I really didn't know if anyone else found the ride as bone jarring as I do.

I hade a few pieces of the material sitting aroound from another project. The 1 inch think is what I used, cutting a piece to go into the bottom of the seat, about 7 inches front to back, and wide enough to fit, and let the original leather upholstery get glued back down. I also cut a piece to 1/2 inch thick and installed it from the juncture of the seat bottom - seat back up to the inflatable lumbar support.

You can split the foam with a "Ginzu" serrated knife with a little bit of screwing around.

After installing, you will think that I am nuts, and that it is way too HARD. Give it 5 minutes with you in the seat, and take the car out to your least favorte bumpy road. You will be amazed.

celling · 03-18-2005, 02:34 PM

Intially I just layed it in the seat to see how much difference it would make. I'd suggest that anyone considering it, would do the same. if you don't like it after 5 minutes, take it out.

usofrob · 03-18-2005, 09:15 PM

Is it relatively easy to remove the leather and attach it again? If so, how did you do it? I may need to make some seat modifications as well.

celling · 03-19-2005, 01:55 AM

The leather in the seats is just glued down. I just grap the edge of the cushion in the bottom of the seat (where I wanted the foam) and carefully started pulling up enough to get the foam in. It is not too bad once you get started. When I had shown the foam to the local Lotus dealer, the Tech did the drivers seat during the 1000 mile service, and I did the passengers seat. Use some upholstery contact cement, or some soft setting glue to re-glue the upholstery back down.

If you are uncomfortable with doing this, I suspect that any auto uphostery shop can do it for you, but you may have to bring your own foam.

MyElise · 03-19-2005, 04:25 PM

Nice work Celling. Mine is a little hard right under the tail bone.

Did it raise you head height any?

celling · 03-20-2005, 05:03 AM

Did it change my seat height? I suppose it did, maybe 3/8th of an inch. I am 6' 2" and head room just isn't an issue in the Elise. I still cannot see out under the roof line to see stop lights, so I guess it didn't really matter.
Elling

Chococar · 03-20-2005, 05:19 AM

I'm using Bruce Kemmler's SHOCKtec Air2Gel and am very pleased with it. Check out his web site at http://www.kemmlerproducts.com. They have different thicknesses & densities.

DeanCPA · 03-20-2005, 10:35 AM

I had the problem of sitting on sides of the seat when I test drove the Elise. It seemed to me that a little extra cushioning would do the trick. Do you think this would solve that problem? It sure seems cheaper than having to buy new seats....

Also how did the seat look when it was done? Any pics?

celling · 03-20-2005, 02:09 PM

[quote=DeanCPA]I had the problem of sitting on sides of the seat when I test drove the Elise. It seemed to me that a little extra cushioning would do the trick. Do you think this would solve that problem? It sure seems cheaper than having to buy new seats....

Also how did the seat look when it was done? Any pics?[/QUOTE

Greetings,
I am not certain that I undwrstand the siting on the sides of the seay comment. I have a skinny butt, and I do not have a lot of room from side to side in the Elise. Simply glueing the temper-sensitive foam under the leather pads has to be cheaper.

I have black interior, leather seats. They willl not photograph very well, and besides, there is nothing to see. It looks just like nothing has been done. This may not be the ultimate answer, but it is better than having your dental work fall out of your head.
Elling

03-18-2005, 01:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
celling Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 222	Temper Foam in Seats It Works The ride in my Elise was nothing short of bone jarring. Sport suspension. I added some temperature foam from the aircraft industry, to the bottom of the seats. The difference is nothing short of remarkable. If you feel like the fillings are going to fall out of your teeth, try this before you require the dental work. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...temperfoam.php

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Racer X Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 591	Which one did you get 1", 2", or 3"? Did you jst lay it in the seat, or remove the leather and replace the current padding? Greg __________________ Aubergine/Black, Touring, Sport, and Hardtop

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03-18-2005, 01:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
ekological Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,552 Images: 13	I like the typo: "12" x 16" x 18" Seat Cushion" That's one thick seat!!! You'd be looking over the windshield if the top was off!

03-18-2005, 02:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
celling Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 222	Greetings, sorry that I didn't give more information. I really didn't know if anyone else found the ride as bone jarring as I do. I hade a few pieces of the material sitting aroound from another project. The 1 inch think is what I used, cutting a piece to go into the bottom of the seat, about 7 inches front to back, and wide enough to fit, and let the original leather upholstery get glued back down. I also cut a piece to 1/2 inch thick and installed it from the juncture of the seat bottom - seat back up to the inflatable lumbar support. You can split the foam with a "Ginzu" serrated knife with a little bit of screwing around. After installing, you will think that I am nuts, and that it is way too HARD. Give it 5 minutes with you in the seat, and take the car out to your least favorte bumpy road. You will be amazed.

03-18-2005, 02:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
celling Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 222	Intially I just layed it in the seat to see how much difference it would make. I'd suggest that anyone considering it, would do the same. if you don't like it after 5 minutes, take it out.

03-18-2005, 09:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
usofrob Almost out of warranty :) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 692	Is it relatively easy to remove the leather and attach it again? If so, how did you do it? I may need to make some seat modifications as well.

03-19-2005, 01:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
celling Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 222	The leather in the seats is just glued down. I just grap the edge of the cushion in the bottom of the seat (where I wanted the foam) and carefully started pulling up enough to get the foam in. It is not too bad once you get started. When I had shown the foam to the local Lotus dealer, the Tech did the drivers seat during the 1000 mile service, and I did the passengers seat. Use some upholstery contact cement, or some soft setting glue to re-glue the upholstery back down. If you are uncomfortable with doing this, I suspect that any auto uphostery shop can do it for you, but you may have to bring your own foam.

03-19-2005, 04:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
MyElise Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,933 Images: 28	Nice work Celling. Mine is a little hard right under the tail bone. Did it raise you head height any?

03-20-2005, 05:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
celling Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 222	Did it change my seat height? I suppose it did, maybe 3/8th of an inch. I am 6' 2" and head room just isn't an issue in the Elise. I still cannot see out under the roof line to see stop lights, so I guess it didn't really matter. Elling

03-20-2005, 05:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
Chococar #334 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 1,634	I'm using Bruce Kemmler's SHOCKtec Air2Gel and am very pleased with it. Check out his web site at http://www.kemmlerproducts.com. They have different thicknesses & densities.

03-20-2005, 10:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
DeanCPA Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Shoreline, CT Posts: 79	I had the problem of sitting on sides of the seat when I test drove the Elise. It seemed to me that a little extra cushioning would do the trick. Do you think this would solve that problem? It sure seems cheaper than having to buy new seats.... Also how did the seat look when it was done? Any pics?

03-20-2005, 02:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
celling Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 222	[quote=DeanCPA]I had the problem of sitting on sides of the seat when I test drove the Elise. It seemed to me that a little extra cushioning would do the trick. Do you think this would solve that problem? It sure seems cheaper than having to buy new seats.... Also how did the seat look when it was done? Any pics?[/QUOTE Greetings, I am not certain that I undwrstand the siting on the sides of the seay comment. I have a skinny butt, and I do not have a lot of room from side to side in the Elise. Simply glueing the temper-sensitive foam under the leather pads has to be cheaper. I have black interior, leather seats. They willl not photograph very well, and besides, there is nothing to see. It looks just like nothing has been done. This may not be the ultimate answer, but it is better than having your dental work fall out of your head. Elling

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