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fpitas · 10-25-2007, 02:34 PM

My catch can install from the top, notice the new hose inlet angles:

And since there isn't much slack in the hoses to allow for motor movement, I added a vibration isolator, McMaster-Carr 96905K38:

It's female on top, male below, 5/16-18 threaded. The catch cans can move a little now without, for example, cracking the clam where the screw attaches.

qball · 10-25-2007, 02:53 PM

Anyone mount this in an Exige S?

I think the trunk is opening is shaped differently.

RoadDad · 10-25-2007, 06:23 PM

fpitas,

very nice. The new angle seems to work nicely.

darkSol · 10-27-2007, 07:06 PM

cspak71 · 10-27-2007, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpitas

My catch can install from the top, notice the new hose inlet angles:

And since there isn't much slack in the hoses to allow for motor movement, I added a vibration isolator, McMaster-Carr 96905K38:

It's female on top, male below, 5/16-18 threaded. The catch cans can move a little now without, for example, cracking the clam where the screw attaches.

Could you show precisely where the vibration isolators went? Thanks.

mikelr · 10-27-2007, 10:05 PM

Arrow pionts to isolator

Dave · 10-28-2007, 06:03 AM

Installs look great! I just drained mine. Only about a 1/2 oz came out - I've been traveling and haven't been driving much. Best to drain right after driving when the cans are warm.

fpitas · 10-28-2007, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikelr

Arrow pionts to isolator

Yep, that's it, thanks. That isolator is not specified for tension loads, only compressive or shear, but since the catch cans only weigh a pound or so I think it will work indefinitely.

Jack · 10-28-2007, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpitas

Yep, that's it, thanks. That isolator is not specified for tension loads, only compressive or shear, but since the catch cans only weigh a pound or so I think it will work indefinitely.

Watch out for the petcocks rubbing on any hoses below -- those cans are long.

fpitas · 10-28-2007, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack

Watch out for the petcocks rubbing on any hoses below -- those cans are long.

There's plenty of vertical room in that location, but there is some interference with the water bypass hose off the back of the engine. I haven't figured out how I'm going to fix that, maybe cut back the hard line from the engine so there's more clearance for the rubber hose.

qball · 03-16-2008, 04:59 PM

Any updates on people running these?

Still have them on?

Any other mods made?

Thanks,

Q

exarkun1178 · 03-16-2008, 05:23 PM

i think i need one of these

qball · 03-16-2008, 09:13 PM

Quick question... I've seen 2 types of catch cans... sealed, and vented?

Are both compatible with our applications (NA and S/C?)

RoadDad · 03-17-2008, 05:03 AM

If I understand things correctly (that is a big IF) the catch can that is vented through a filter and not into the intake may be violating various state emissions laws.

fpitas · 03-17-2008, 05:54 AM

Still got my Saikou cans, too.

And on the subject of vented vs. unvented cans...yeah, the vented most likely are an emissions violation. In any event, I prefer the unvented because the connection at the throttle body has a small amount of negative pressure (suction), which will help remove vapors from the crankcase and keep the oil cleaner. Obviously if you vent it there is no negative pressure.

Jack · 03-17-2008, 07:26 AM

Saikou! If it's good enough for Dave.....

shay2nak · 03-17-2008, 10:07 PM

i need to do this to my car also. Where did you guys buy these Saikou cans and hoses?

25psi_Elise_Killer · 03-17-2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadDad

If I understand things correctly (that is a big IF) the catch can that is vented through a filter and not into the intake may be violating various state emissions laws.

Adding an aftermarket air intake is also violating various emissions laws.....

LBC111 · 03-17-2008, 10:36 PM

Yeah... I need these as well.

Thanks for the pic Jack. Did you have to do any special mods? Can you get to the petcocks easily?

25psi_Elise_Killer · 03-17-2008, 11:50 PM

For those financially challenged due to recent market turmoil, $15 catch can solution

10-25-2007, 02:34 PM	#41 (permalink)
fpitas User, Registered Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,357	My catch can install from the top, notice the new hose inlet angles: And since there isn't much slack in the hoses to allow for motor movement, I added a vibration isolator, McMaster-Carr 96905K38: It's female on top, male below, 5/16-18 threaded. The catch cans can move a little now without, for example, cracking the clam where the screw attaches. __________________ Francis 2006 Chrome Orange Elise: Base, Hardtop, LSD/TC, FF Engine Damper, Arqray Twin Muffler, Nitron SAs with 525/650 springs, Katana Supercharger, Smaay's fuel rail, Saikou Michi dual catch can, Eliseparts bumpsteer kit, BWR 7/8" Front Bar 2000 Black Integra Type R: Konis, Neuspeed Race Springs, Mugen 26mm Rear Bar, 16x8 SSR Integrals

10-25-2007, 06:23 PM	#43 (permalink)
RoadDad 道のお父さん Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hell Posts: 3,993	fpitas, very nice. The new angle seems to work nicely. __________________ "There are two things no man will admit he cannot do well: drive and make love" -- Stirling Moss Nunquam est ponenda pluralitas sine necessitate. Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate. Pluralitas non est ponenda, nisi ubi est necessitas. Add RoadDad To My Ignore List

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10-28-2007, 06:03 AM	#47 (permalink)
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10-25-2007, 02:53 PM	#42 (permalink)
qball Genius! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,013	Anyone mount this in an Exige S? I think the trunk is opening is shaped differently.

03-16-2008, 04:59 PM	#51 (permalink)
qball Genius! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,013	Any updates on people running these? Still have them on? Any other mods made? Thanks, Q

03-16-2008, 05:23 PM	#52 (permalink)
exarkun1178 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Point Pleasant Beach, NJ Posts: 3,543	i think i need one of these

03-16-2008, 09:13 PM	#53 (permalink)
qball Genius! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,013	Quick question... I've seen 2 types of catch cans... sealed, and vented? Are both compatible with our applications (NA and S/C?)

03-17-2008, 05:03 AM	#54 (permalink)
RoadDad 道のお父さん Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hell Posts: 3,993	If I understand things correctly (that is a big IF) the catch can that is vented through a filter and not into the intake may be violating various state emissions laws. __________________ "There are two things no man will admit he cannot do well: drive and make love" -- Stirling Moss Nunquam est ponenda pluralitas sine necessitate. Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate. Pluralitas non est ponenda, nisi ubi est necessitas. Add RoadDad To My Ignore List

03-17-2008, 05:54 AM	#55 (permalink)
fpitas User, Registered Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,357	Still got my Saikou cans, too. And on the subject of vented vs. unvented cans...yeah, the vented most likely are an emissions violation. In any event, I prefer the unvented because the connection at the throttle body has a small amount of negative pressure (suction), which will help remove vapors from the crankcase and keep the oil cleaner. Obviously if you vent it there is no negative pressure. __________________ Francis 2006 Chrome Orange Elise: Base, Hardtop, LSD/TC, FF Engine Damper, Arqray Twin Muffler, Nitron SAs with 525/650 springs, Katana Supercharger, Smaay's fuel rail, Saikou Michi dual catch can, Eliseparts bumpsteer kit, BWR 7/8" Front Bar 2000 Black Integra Type R: Konis, Neuspeed Race Springs, Mugen 26mm Rear Bar, 16x8 SSR Integrals

03-17-2008, 07:26 AM	#56 (permalink)
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03-17-2008, 10:36 PM	#59 (permalink)
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