Soooo what class is my Elise? - LotusTalk

jmiesse · 08-06-2008, 06:10 PM

Only thing changed is exhaust to stage II.

Still SS or ASP?

I read alll the threads I could find.

Looks like ASP.

Randy Chase · 08-06-2008, 06:12 PM

Exhaust is free in stock. So SuperStock

Unless you cut the diffuser to fit the exhaust. Unfortunately that would move you to ASP.

And maybe a detail, but technically in STOCK you would need to leave the snorkel in too.

Sean G · 08-06-2008, 08:10 PM

cutting the diffuser: not technically legal in ASP either

Slipstreamer · 08-27-2008, 03:19 PM

Is having the Lotus Sport ECU acceptable as a factory upgrade legal in SS(It merely retunes the 2nd cam from about 6,200 down to around 5,800rpm)?

Randy Chase · 08-27-2008, 03:42 PM

No. Sorry. ASP.

Slipstreamer · 08-27-2008, 03:44 PM

I thought so. Thanks, Randy.

...m... · 06-27-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Randy Chase

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Originally Posted by Slipstreamer

Is having the Lotus Sport ECU acceptable as a factory upgrade legal in SS(It merely retunes the 2nd cam from about 6,200 down to around 5,800rpm)?

No. Sorry. ASP.

...i thought the lotussport ECU was standard in all the sport elises?..

2Low4morego · 06-27-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ...m...

...i thought the lotussport ECU was standard in all the sport elises?..

It is, the 2006 Sport Elise is classed in ASP. Regular na Elises and na Exiges are classed in SS.

The trick setup for SS seems to be a 2005 or 2006 Elise without Touring Pack (saves weight) and with Track Pack and LSD.

xtn · 06-27-2009, 10:32 AM

There was no Track Pack for 05 or 06 Elises. Does SS allow putting and Exige option onto the Elise?

xtn

Scott Bowman · 06-27-2009, 12:01 PM

The Track Pack option was available for the Elise starting with the 2006 model. For stock purposes, you cannot substitute or change parts from another model (e.g., swap an Exige seat for an Elise seat). If it were the identical part number--such as the air filter--used by both models, it wouldn't matter (but there would be no reason to substitute).

...m... · 06-27-2009, 12:06 PM

...are you limited to options from the same model year only?..

Scott Bowman · 06-27-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ...m...

...are you limited to options from the same model year only?..

For stock class, yes, any options or packages used on your car "must be run as specified by the factory with only standard equipment as defined by these Rules." You can do option package conversions between specific vechicles of a particular make and model, but only between configurations from within a particular model year. For example, on the Elise, you could run the LSS size 6.5" front rims if your car came with the sport package; and you could convert a base car ONLY if you also add the twin oil coolers, the LSS Bilsteins (which are upgradeable per stock rules), etc. In other words, you could retrofit your Elise with the LSS package, but it must include all the components that would have come on the car from the factory for that model year.

fzust · 06-27-2009, 04:48 PM

For Stock, it is easier to talk about what you CAN change. Cat back exhaust, with no mods to body to fit. Air Filter, Brake pads, shocks(must fit stock locations and spring perch heights), tires, Wheels(same size as stock +/-1/4" on offset.) I think that's it.

Scott Bowman · 06-27-2009, 08:21 PM

You can change the front sway bar and mount. And run any DOT legal tires, including R-compounds, such as the Hoosier A6.

Surferjer · 06-29-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Bowman

For stock class, yes, any options or packages used on your car "must be run as specified by the factory with only standard equipment as defined by these Rules." You can do option package conversions between specific vechicles of a particular make and model, but only between configurations from within a particular model year. For example, on the Elise, you could run the LSS size 6.5" front rims if your car came with the sport package; and you could convert a base car ONLY if you also add the twin oil coolers, the LSS Bilsteins (which are upgradeable per stock rules), etc. In other words, you could retrofit your Elise with the LSS package, but it must include all the components that would have come on the car from the factory for that model year.

I converted my first Elise to an LSS Elise way back when. Of course I had an early year base model that thankfully came with the twin oil coolers. That's the hard part of the conversion. Springs are easy and you're probably replacing the shocks anyway.

Newhouse · 07-16-2009, 06:59 PM

Auto-x newbie, still SS with rear panel eliminator or ASP ?

Randy Chase · 07-16-2009, 07:47 PM

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Auto-x newbie, still SS with rear panel eliminator or ASP ?

Technically ASP

...m... · 07-16-2009, 07:58 PM

...i don't know of any aftermarket exhaust which fits the stock diffuser cutout, not even the lotus stage 2, so unless i'm wrong you're effectively limited to stock exhaust in super stock, short of doing custom tips...

CrashTestDummy · 07-16-2009, 08:05 PM

the Quicksilver works with the stock diffuser and sounds great. Run what you brung and have fun.

Randy Chase · 07-16-2009, 08:05 PM

I did with the Quicksilver from Sector (I dont think they carry that brand anymore) and then later with one from 2Bular....but the 2bular may have been a custom exhaust. But it certainly could be true now. Custom tips would not be too hard to do.

08-06-2008, 06:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
jmiesse Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 565	Soooo what class is my Elise? Only thing changed is exhaust to stage II. Still SS or ASP? I read alll the threads I could find. Looks like ASP. __________________ 05 AS Elise. Tour and Sport Pack. Hard Top.Stage II Exhaust, Sport ecu, Pagid RS 4-2s,Toyo R888's, Shifter Matrix brace, Micro Mirror

08-06-2008, 06:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,175 Images: 761	Exhaust is free in stock. So SuperStock Unless you cut the diffuser to fit the exhaust. Unfortunately that would move you to ASP. And maybe a detail, but technically in STOCK you would need to leave the snorkel in too. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! http://www.facebook.com/randychase 1991 Toyota MR2. AutoX Beast 2006 Noble M400. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Canyon Carver. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle. On Order: Lotus Evora Next: McLaren MP4-12C

08-06-2008, 08:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sean G Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 180 Images: 6	cutting the diffuser: not technically legal in ASP either __________________ SDG

08-27-2008, 03:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
Slipstreamer Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 204	Is having the Lotus Sport ECU acceptable as a factory upgrade legal in SS(It merely retunes the 2nd cam from about 6,200 down to around 5,800rpm)? __________________ '05 ELISE Storm Titanium LSS/TP/HT/Dual Oil Coolers/Starshield/Raptor Racing exhaust XP111 (LBH)/BWR 7/8" Anti Roll Bar "Smooth is fast, but fast is quicker"

08-27-2008, 03:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,175 Images: 761	No. Sorry. ASP. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! http://www.facebook.com/randychase 1991 Toyota MR2. AutoX Beast 2006 Noble M400. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Canyon Carver. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle. On Order: Lotus Evora Next: McLaren MP4-12C

08-27-2008, 03:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
Slipstreamer Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 204	I thought so. Thanks, Randy. __________________ '05 ELISE Storm Titanium LSS/TP/HT/Dual Oil Coolers/Starshield/Raptor Racing exhaust XP111 (LBH)/BWR 7/8" Anti Roll Bar "Smooth is fast, but fast is quicker"

06-27-2009, 10:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
xtn McLareghini Bugatterrari Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 6,845	There was no Track Pack for 05 or 06 Elises. Does SS allow putting and Exige option onto the Elise? xtn __________________ 2006 McLareghini Bugatterrari, Storm Titanium... <mods> installed: air horn, Scroth 4-point ASM harnesses, Sector111 halon extinguisher and mounting bracket, Von Hep exhaust and rear panel delete, Pagid brake pads, red Volks CE28n wheels, Toyo RA-1 tires, Nitron SA coilovers, Sector111 (WorksBell) quick-disconnect steering wheel kit. awaiting installation: Scroth "pull-up" lap belts, Sector111 RTD Brace, Tony's heater bypass mod, and dropped steering rack mounting plates. </mods>

06-27-2009, 12:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Scott Bowman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Leander, TX Posts: 425 Images: 21	The Track Pack option was available for the Elise starting with the 2006 model. For stock purposes, you cannot substitute or change parts from another model (e.g., swap an Exige seat for an Elise seat). If it were the identical part number--such as the air filter--used by both models, it wouldn't matter (but there would be no reason to substitute). __________________ 2006 Elise British Racing Green; LSS, LSD-TC, 2bular exhaust, Blackwatch Racing front bar, BWR Supercharger, Tillett Seats

06-27-2009, 12:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
...m... Denuo Volatilis Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,715	...are you limited to options from the same model year only?.. __________________ 2005 Federal Elise \| Touring \| Storm Titanium ...73,000 miles and aging beautifully... 2000 New Beetle \| Turbo \| Reflex Silver ...107,000 miles of steadfast service...

06-27-2009, 04:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
fzust 2009 XP National Champion Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 1,537	For Stock, it is easier to talk about what you CAN change. Cat back exhaust, with no mods to body to fit. Air Filter, Brake pads, shocks(must fit stock locations and spring perch heights), tires, Wheels(same size as stock +/-1/4" on offset.) I think that's it. __________________ 2008,2009 X Prepared Solo National Champion

06-27-2009, 08:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
Scott Bowman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Leander, TX Posts: 425 Images: 21	You can change the front sway bar and mount. And run any DOT legal tires, including R-compounds, such as the Hoosier A6. __________________ 2006 Elise British Racing Green; LSS, LSD-TC, 2bular exhaust, Blackwatch Racing front bar, BWR Supercharger, Tillett Seats

07-16-2009, 06:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
Newhouse Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Richfield, Ohio Posts: 190	Auto-x newbie, still SS with rear panel eliminator or ASP ? __________________ ------------------------------------------------- 05 Elise, Storm Ti, Black Int, Hardtop, Starshield, LSS

07-16-2009, 07:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
...m... Denuo Volatilis Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,715	...i don't know of any aftermarket exhaust which fits the stock diffuser cutout, not even the lotus stage 2, so unless i'm wrong you're effectively limited to stock exhaust in super stock, short of doing custom tips... __________________ 2005 Federal Elise \| Touring \| Storm Titanium ...73,000 miles and aging beautifully... 2000 New Beetle \| Turbo \| Reflex Silver ...107,000 miles of steadfast service...

07-16-2009, 08:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
CrashTestDummy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 435	the Quicksilver works with the stock diffuser and sounds great. Run what you brung and have fun. __________________ We have evolved!! Two black marks now.

07-16-2009, 08:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,175 Images: 761	I did with the Quicksilver from Sector (I dont think they carry that brand anymore) and then later with one from 2Bular....but the 2bular may have been a custom exhaust. But it certainly could be true now. Custom tips would not be too hard to do. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! http://www.facebook.com/randychase 1991 Toyota MR2. AutoX Beast 2006 Noble M400. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Canyon Carver. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle. On Order: Lotus Evora Next: McLaren MP4-12C

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