Traction control is driving me crazy!!! - LotusTalk

CrashTestDummy · 10-05-2008, 07:52 PM

I keep forgetting to turn this fricken feature off. I have resorted to putting a post it note on my dash but this is annoying. I even tried leaving the car running as to not have to remember but it keeps coming back on. Does anyone else have this problem? What are you guys doing to keep from running with the t/c on all the time?

TIA

Illumiloti · 10-05-2008, 08:01 PM

...then, when I'm on the track and I start my session with it turned off, the way my seat is positioned, the back of my knee inevitably bumps the TC button within one or two laps and kicks it back on! Does this happen to anybody else?

climb4fun · 10-05-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestodude

...then, when I'm on the track and I start my session with it turned off, the way my seat is positioned, the back of my knee inevitably bumps the TC button within one or two laps and kicks it back on! Does this happen to anybody else?

That's terrible. Is this happened only one time?

ZJChaser · 10-05-2008, 08:16 PM

I have hit it with my knee and turned it on as well. not anymore wince the race seat went in though. knee cant touch the console.

CrashTestDummy · 10-05-2008, 08:23 PM

I have never had an issue with my knee hitting to my knowledge. I will see if it is possible tomorrow.

RichS · 10-05-2008, 08:39 PM

Why the concern?

I've only had traction control cut in on one corner on one track. I'm not sure any extra wheel spin would make me faster there.

It's not like it's very intrusive.

The factory drivers keep it on at the factory track because they are faster with it on. At least that's what I was told by the folks from the factory. (I believe them.)

ZJChaser · 10-05-2008, 08:46 PM

I hated the TC, tight second gear corner it always got in the way and that was while NA. With the blower now its more annoying.

apk919 · 10-05-2008, 08:53 PM

TC is very intrusive during auto-x... as I'm coming up to the start, I quickly scan the dash... making sure that TC is disabled is one of the things I check. I've never had it reset to "on" unintentionally though...

Green Ghost · 10-05-2008, 08:59 PM

That button is in a bad spot. I turn mine off quite often with my leg when driving spiritedly. The first time I saw the light on the dash go on I thought, O-NO.

rnr · 10-05-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestodude

...then, when I'm on the track and I start my session with it turned off, the way my seat is positioned, the back of my knee inevitably bumps the TC button within one or two laps and kicks it back on! Does this happen to anybody else?

Happens to me all the time. The simplest solutions is to tape a bottle top over the button after you turn the TC off. I believe Surferjer even had this method officially declared legal by the SCCA.

TedDBere · 10-06-2008, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rnr

Happens to me all the time. The simplest solutions is to tape a bottle top over the button after you turn the TC off. I believe Surferjer even had this method officially declared legal by the SCCA.

That I'd like to see...

Seems to me putting a bottle cap over the switch would be the same intent as pulling a fuse. You are doing something mechanical to prevent a factory system design from functioning. It doesn't seem to me that just because the factory design is poor (your knee hits the switch) you should be able to add something to the car (a bottle cap) to eliminate the poor design function in a stock class car. IMHO

This would be like being able to move the pedals because they are so close together your feet hit both the clutch and the brake at the same time.

But, if Jerry has the letter....

Vampyre · 10-06-2008, 07:10 AM

Relocate the switch, it is just press fitted in.

Make a new hole on the front on the center console, right under the power door locks.

xtn · 10-06-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RichS

Why the concern?

I've only had traction control cut in on one corner on one track. I'm not sure any extra wheel spin would make me faster there.

Ahhhhh... the Fish Hook.

My traction control setting has been dialed back a bit.

xtn

rnr · 10-06-2008, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TedDBere

That I'd like to see...

Denver Pro Solo Thread (post #8)

TedDBere · 10-06-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rnr

Denver Pro Solo Thread (post #8)

Yes I see where Jerry said he got the OK from Bob Tunnell, but I still don't see a letter or a Fastrack ruling.

The letters that I've sent to SAC/SEB for clarification have always had the clarifications, or denials, printed in Fastrack. Without being printed in Fastrack, or the rulebook, it's up for interpretation and appeal if protested, and if it doesn't say you can, then you can't. IMHO

That being said, Elise owners do run at national events with the "bottle cap" fix, and have never been protested. That doesn't mean you won't be protested in the future.

I do know that Brian and Pat's car doesn't use the botttle cap fix. I'm not sure if Matthew's car had it or not, I certainly don't remember seeing it in impound at either the Pro Finale or Nationals. FWIW.

TexasGT3 · 10-06-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TedDBere

That I'd like to see...

Seems to me putting a bottle cap over the switch would be the same intent as pulling a fuse. You are doing something mechanical to prevent a factory system design from functioning. It doesn't seem to me that just because the factory design is poor (your knee hits the switch) you should be able to add something to the car (a bottle cap) to eliminate the poor design function in a stock class car. IMHO

This would be like being able to move the pedals because they are so close together your feet hit both the clutch and the brake at the same time.

But, if Jerry has the letter....

Please...Vettes have all sorts of "special rules" in the book that let them do a lot more that prevent the traction control from being switched back on....It's obviously a safety rule anyway and/or comfort and convenience. ; )

TedDBere · 10-06-2008, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasGT3

Please...Vettes have all sorts of "special rules" in the book that let them do a lot more that prevent the traction control from being switched back on....It's obviously a safety rule anyway.

Stu, I have no idea what you're talking about...what special rules? lol

BTW, you may be in the right car if we move to Nebraska next year. Pray for concrete....

TexasGT3 · 10-06-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TedDBere

BTW, you may be in the right car if we move to Nebraska next year. Pray for concrete....

The thought has crossed my mind! But then again many thoughts crossed my mind on the long road home from Kansas. It's not so much the concrete in Nebraska but the potential for huge/wide courses that I'm excited about!

CrashTestDummy · 10-06-2008, 10:21 AM

I thought we were going to Arkansas?

I really do not see how someone can turn it off with their knee. I will check when I get home. Can it turn itself back on?

rnr · 10-06-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TedDBere

Yes I see where Jerry said he got the OK from Bob Tunnell, but I still don't see a letter or a Fastrack ruling.

The letters that I've sent to SAC/SEB for clarification have always had the clarifications, or denials, printed in Fastrack. Without being printed in Fastrack, or the rulebook, it's up for interpretation and appeal if protested, and if it doesn't say you can, then you can't. IMHO

Well I dont compete in SCCA so I really have no idea about the rules. I assumed that the ruling meant it was ok but I guess I was wrong.

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CrashTestDummy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 435	Traction control is driving me crazy!!! I keep forgetting to turn this fricken feature off. I have resorted to putting a post it note on my dash but this is annoying. I even tried leaving the car running as to not have to remember but it keeps coming back on. Does anyone else have this problem? What are you guys doing to keep from running with the t/c on all the time? TIA __________________ We have evolved!! Two black marks now.

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Illumiloti (Formerly PESTODUDE) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 692	...then, when I'm on the track and I start my session with it turned off, the way my seat is positioned, the back of my knee inevitably bumps the TC button within one or two laps and kicks it back on! Does this happen to anybody else? __________________ Randy '07 Phntm Blk Exige S. Proalloy chargecooler, RLS IC tubes, Sector RTD brace, Manly's motor mounts, cup air box, CF Sector front splitter, wing, and side scoops/ mesh removed, SS brake lines, Sector and "Stan's" shifter mod, "Stan's" clutch pedal mod, Voltphreaks 4.5lb battery, Gotham tune.

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ZJChaser Blue Wheel Pimp Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 2,851	I have hit it with my knee and turned it on as well. not anymore wince the race seat went in though. knee cant touch the console. __________________ AJ - Akua Solutions - #128 Lotus Exige - JRZ Suspension - Innovative Mounts - Toyo Tires - TW Research Development

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CrashTestDummy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 435	I have never had an issue with my knee hitting to my knowledge. I will see if it is possible tomorrow. __________________ We have evolved!! Two black marks now.

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RichS No, it's only an N/A Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,285	Why the concern? I've only had traction control cut in on one corner on one track. I'm not sure any extra wheel spin would make me faster there. It's not like it's very intrusive. The factory drivers keep it on at the factory track because they are faster with it on. At least that's what I was told by the folks from the factory. (I believe them.) __________________ Useful links to vendors removed at Nadeem's request. "Nice avatar by the way, I doubt Colin Chapman would have followed the herd as I have seen many here do. --Nadeem"

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Green Ghost Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: orange county Posts: 1,184 Images: 26	That button is in a bad spot. I turn mine off quite often with my leg when driving spiritedly. The first time I saw the light on the dash go on I thought, O-NO.

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CrashTestDummy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 435	I thought we were going to Arkansas? I really do not see how someone can turn it off with their knee. I will check when I get home. Can it turn itself back on? __________________ We have evolved!! Two black marks now.

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