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12-26-2012 03:48 PM
LotusCC
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Originally Posted by btotheje View Post
Only to clear the pure size of the wheels and their agressive offset!
Looks like a beastly little thing


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12-26-2012 03:38 PM
btotheje
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Originally Posted by LotusCC View Post
Great car, but it has a factory wide body and 10" wide rear wheels!


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Only to clear the pure size of the wheels and their agressive offset!
12-26-2012 05:20 AM
MTLDean
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Originally Posted by LotusCC View Post
Great car, but it has a factory wide body and 10" wide rear wheels!
I appreciate the OP taking the high road with some of the replies. Think of how many members would have taken comments personally and become belligerent and defensive. It's refreshing to see.
It sounds like you are changing out the wheels for cosmetic purposes and it will make you happy.


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THat's a nice thing to say, thanks.

I know that, even when people disagree and go off on me, they're taking the time to do so because they care - about the car, the ethos, the philosophy, and so on. They care enough that they're willing to confront and speak their mind - it's an excellent thing and reiterates that there's a strong pulse on this forum. Like I said before, this is the best car forum I've ever been on.

Thanks again guys!
12-26-2012 04:29 AM
BlkLotus TMB Silver
12-25-2012 10:03 PM
Leebenstein nice job on the photoshop!
12-25-2012 08:00 PM
LotusCC
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Originally Posted by btotheje View Post
Most of the silvers look good and I think everyone is going a little overboard. It's one step up from stock. The beloved GT3 Exiges run a 17in and 18in combo for Pete's sake! Tyre it properly to keep the same overall rolling diameter and there's no real mass issue there. There can be, given no brains whatsoever. But OP seems like a smart guy who knows what he's getting in to.

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Great car, but it has a factory wide body and 10" wide rear wheels!
I appreciate the OP taking the high road with some of the replies. Think of how many members would have taken comments personally and become belligerent and defensive. It's refreshing to see.
It sounds like you are changing out the wheels for cosmetic purposes and it will make you happy.


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12-25-2012 05:05 PM
SwingLo I loves my RAC Monolites.

Would look good in black (gloss or satin) against your car.

12-25-2012 04:57 PM
yellow99s
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Originally Posted by MTLDean View Post
Interesting. Would you be able to elaborate a bit on that? THanks for the input, I appreciate it!
One benefit of a taller overall wheel is that your speedometer would be off a little less and the odometer would count *slightly* less than the actual mileage.
12-25-2012 04:04 PM
btotheje Most of the silvers look good and I think everyone is going a little overboard. It's one step up from stock. The beloved GT3 Exiges run a 17in and 18in combo for Pete's sake! Tyre it properly to keep the same overall rolling diameter and there's no real mass issue there. There can be, given no brains whatsoever. But OP seems like a smart guy who knows what he's getting in to.

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12-25-2012 07:59 AM
MTLDean
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Originally Posted by 6i9 View Post
Your gearing may effectively become taller if the overall tire/wheel combo is larger/taller than stock though.

That means your acceleration will suffer, regardless of weight. It sounds like that doesn't matter to you but weight is not the only factor that you're trading off FYI

The TMB looks cool though as i said
Interesting. Would you be able to elaborate a bit on that? THanks for the input, I appreciate it!
12-25-2012 07:39 AM
6i9 Your gearing may effectively become taller if the overall tire/wheel combo is larger/taller than stock though.

That means your acceleration will suffer, regardless of weight. It sounds like that doesn't matter to you but weight is not the only factor that you're trading off FYI

The TMB looks cool though as i said
12-25-2012 12:33 AM
shay2nak F230 gunmetal
12-24-2012 02:46 PM
holmz
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Originally Posted by MTLDean View Post
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Also, the tire has to be taken into consideration, but I think we're getting into hair-splitting here. Unless you're Raikkonen or something, I don't think anyone on this forum could tell the difference either way.
Well the looks part I understand, but that only looks better if you or everyone else think that the bigger wheels look better.

That skinny sidewall will nothing beneficial for the handling.
For performance you might be better off with 15/16 than upsizing to 17/18.

So if you are doing it for looks then more power to you.
If you are doing it for performance then you may be misguided.
12-24-2012 11:10 AM
MTLDean
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Originally Posted by CMP View Post
The Effects of Rotational Inertia on Automotive Acceleration found this rotational mass converter with relation to wheel size. someone else will need to put in the calculations
So, I plugged in the following values on the calculator:
9 kg 17" wheel (so outer radius 8.5")
Rotational inertia is 0.20976 kg-m^2

Now, for the new 18" rim, which weighs 7 kg:
7 kg 18" wheel (outer radius 9")
Rotational inertia is 0.18290 kg-m^2

So I'm sorry, but what exactly where you guys saying about worsening the rotational inertia by upgrading to an 18" wheel from a 17" wheel? Even if I were to put a 19" wheel at the same weight (7 kg) I would still get a lower rotational inertia (0.20379) than the stock 17".

Now, the only way I'm wrong is if the weight I found for the rear 17" stock SC is not 9 kg. It would have to be less than 8 kg to give less rotational inertia. Also, the tire has to be taken into consideration, but I think we're getting into hair-splitting here. Unless you're Raikkonen or something, I don't think anyone on this forum could tell the difference either way.
12-22-2012 05:11 AM
MTLDean Guys, thanks for all the info. I took everything you all posted into account and have decided to go with the TMB in satin silver. BEing a step-lip wheel, it's reportedly much stronger than a step-lip so should add extra protection for the guy on this forum who's terrified I'm going to hit a pothole and bend a rim.

I'm really not concerned in the least about the weight of the wheels. They are 7 kg for the rear 18" which is a bit lighter than the forged 17" you can get for the Elise, I believe. I may be wrong on the Elise wheel weight, but whatever. I don't care about the increased rotational mass (I'm not so sure there is any to speak of to be honest) spread out over an extra half inch per radius. This is hair splitting at its worst.

Thanks again!!!
12-21-2012 08:26 PM
yellow99s
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Originally Posted by MTLDean View Post
Yeah not sure what's going on with that weird Kodiak wheel or whatever that is. I don't think it has to look like that. After all, that guy with the gold 18" HRE front wheels didn't have that strange look, other than the sheer size.

Have some faith guys, i have a good eye, I'm pretty sure this is going to look awesome.
Those gold 18" HRE's are ONE PIECE RIMS. Only the rear 19's are multi piece rims. All muti piece rims on the front of an Elise look like those Kodiak's, yucky. But seriously, best of luck.
12-21-2012 03:04 PM
CMP The Effects of Rotational Inertia on Automotive Acceleration found this rotational mass converter with relation to wheel size. someone else will need to put in the calculations
12-21-2012 02:21 PM
chris2pher I don't like any of them. Also, why add rotational mass by going with larger diameters front and rear?
12-21-2012 01:43 PM
6i9
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Originally Posted by luxige View Post
I like the TMBs, but for reasons I can't quite put my finger on, I think the style clashes with the styling of the car. Also, the five bolt pattern matches the spokes; going to four lugs will look awkward since the design is clean and simple.

You didn't post a mockup of the AGs in black, but I liked them a lot in gunmetal.

I don't get why people like the stuffed wheelwell look. It's goofy, in my opinion.
The shape of the spokes look like the side scoop shape of the Elise. I see no clashing. If anything those star pattern wheels clash with the body lines...sharp and hard edge angles are no where on the rest of the car really
12-21-2012 01:23 PM
Wubot Herra frush!
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