the problem is that yes im upside down and not really sure how much... but most likely between the two it's somewhere between 6k-10k. i am in the service though but i never ask for 'extra' treatment. i do my job and get paid just like everyone else. I am going to have a hard time getting these two cars out from under me without taking a big loss... my stupidity from previous cars and expenses rolled over onto these car notes... it's a chain reaction that is hurting me badly today now that im wary of my mistakes and a little smarter. I JUST WANT AN ELISE!!!