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What is the part number of the washer?

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I don't know, but try emailing Sector111, they would either be able to sell you some, or would give you the P/N.

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Mcmaster sells them,

http://www.mcmaster.com/

Just type in Nord Lock into the search feature.

More than likely this P/N will do 91074A131

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Torqued mine to 50lbs instead of 44, should be ok right?

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Hey Mikelr,

What is the size needed? Is that indeed the part number? I would hate to buy a 25 pack and get the wrong thing.

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The inner toe link shaft is an M10, that P/N is correct.

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FYI, the lotus service manual that i had downloaded from lotus around august of 2007 shows the updated 60 Nm torque specification for this bolt.

mine were below that when i went to torque them for the first time (had to turn the bolt about 180 degrees more to reach 60 Nm). kinda scary considering i have just over 1400 miles on my car so far. will have to check often to see if they work themselves loose again.
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Would it be possible for you to post that page of the manual so that others might update their manual? Or maybe just a photo of it...




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My heim joint bolt is a bit loose after ~4 track days (1st gen Lotus Track Brace)..any updated findings with fitted nordlocks?
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My heim joint bolt is a bit loose after ~4 track days (1st gen Lotus Track Brace)..any updated findings with fitted nordlocks?
let's hope everyone continues to check them. i've got them as part of the S111 delta brace and not had them back off at all... maybe 25 track days.
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watch those boots

Just an FYI. From a suspension engineer stand point, you need to watch the open end wrench on the hex close to the boot. It is easy to tear those things and then you're done. (contamination is the enemy to ball joint ends) At the factory (not Lotus but other OEM's), we use what we call "hold and drive" guns that drive the nut and "hold" the ball joint stud with the inner hex on the stud. If my experience we have seen allot of parts in service centers because a dealer services this link and is not careful to watch the boot to wrench clearance. Just trying to share info.

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comments about torque vs. clampload

Lot of comments in this post comparing clampload to torque. Torque is the necessary work needed to turn the nut or bolt where clampload is how "squeezed" the joint is. Many things can affect this. Thread pitch as was mentioned but also coating type of the bolt and nut, bolt / nut hardness, and stiffness of clampload area are factors in how much torque one gets in a joint for a given torque. I would recommend that you maintain the factory clampload specification +/- 10% as this is the general accuracy of the factory. If you see the joint loosing more than once there may be other issues at work that may need to be discussed. Different fastener options with different specs, or perhaps looking at replacing the factory link and tightening the link with an update torque to the higher end of the spec. Hope this helps. Lots more useless knowledge where this came from.

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Could someone please clarify whether you should FIRST loosen and THEN torque a nut? My Husky torque wrench instructions say to always loosen first.

Thanks for the help.
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Yes, you should loosen and then retorque. It's important not to stop tightening as you near the last several pounds. If you simply try to retorque a fastener in its static state, you have to overcome static friction, also known as breakaway torque. You wil be fooling yourself. You probably need to back off 1/4 turn and tighten in a continuous movement until you hit the torque or hear the click.
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did mine yesterday, a good 180 turn to the right tq. glade i looked.
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Yes, you should loosen and then retorque. It's important not to stop tightening as you near the last several pounds. If you simply try to retorque a fastener in its static state, you have to overcome static friction, also known as breakaway torque. You wil be fooling yourself. You probably need to back off 1/4 turn and tighten in a continuous movement until you hit the torque or hear the click.
Thanks for the info, will do!
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Checked mine today while changing brake pads... 9,500 miles (car was at the dealer for service at 7,000) and one side was around 25 nm, the other 35 nm. Both 60 nm now...
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When I torqued mine to 60Nm I also put a dab of Torque Seal on the nut.
I still check the torque when I have the undertray off, but this way I can at least do a quick visual inspection every now and then to see if the nut is moving.

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Don't forget to check your toe links, mates!

The picture was taken this sunday on the Nordschleife. Result: 360 spin but without an impact ... lucky guy!
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Check your ball joint torques, too. Several people have found them completely loose or (in my case) nowhere near the right torque.

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Don't forget to check your toe links, mates!

The picture was taken this sunday on the Nordschleife. Result: 360 spin but without an impact ... lucky guy!
Wow, great photo... toe link failure in progress. Who'd think you'd have excessive oversteer with 20 rear toe out?
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